Governor Northan of Virginia plans to violate Constitutional rights.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/virginia-plans-emergency-gun-ban-135403362.html Virginia plans emergency gun ban at Capitol ahead of protest: AP January 15, 2020, 5:54 AM PST FILE PHOTO: Virginia Governor Northam speaks to an gun control rally in Richmond (Reuters) - Virginia Governor Ralph Northam on Wednesday plans to declare a temporary emergency banning all guns and weapons from the area around the Capitol in Richmond ahead of a major gun rights demonstration set for Monday, the Associated Press reported. Northam feared a repetition of the violence that broke out in August 2017 amid a white supremacist rally and counterdemonstration in which anti-racist protester Heather Heyer was killed in a car attack, the AP reported, citing two unnamed state officials who were briefed on the plans but not authorized to speak publicly about them. The governor's office did not immediately respond to a Reuters request for confirmation. Gun-rights advocates including militia groups and ultraconservative activists are planning a "Lobby Day" rally on Monday, seeking to block gun control legislation backed by Northam, a Democrat, and the Democratic-controlled state legislature in both the General Assembly and Senate. Last week Virginia lawmakers approved a new gun policy prohibiting firearms inside the Capitol and a nearby office building, but did not extend the ban to Capitol Square, the public space outside that includes monuments to prominent Virginians and the Virginia Civil Rights Memorial. The governor saw credible threats of potential violence and extremism after a series of provocative online postings from out-of-state pro-gun and militia groups that plan to attend, one official cited by the AP said. One posting included a photo of an AR-15 and said there were "great sight angles from certain buildings" near Capitol Square, the official said. (Reporting by Daniel Trotta; Editing by Scott Malone and Chizu Nomiyama) [end of quote] Jim Bell's comments: How can people exercising their constitutional rights EVER be considered an "emergency"? And worse, one which is used to 'justify' violation of exactly those rights? I think this Governor Northam needs to FEAR doing what he's planning to do. If he fears that some people are going to violate others' constitutional rights to assembly and to bear arms, he should prepare his government to arrest those who will be doing that violation, not those excertising those rights. And he should never prohibit people from exercising their right to self-defense and to the defense of others, including using guns to do so. Jim Bell
On 15/01/2020 22:17, jim bell wrote: https://www.yahoo.com/news/virginia-plans-emergency-gun-ban-135403362.html Virginia plans emergency gun ban at Capitol ahead of protest: AP January 15, 2020, 5:54 AM PST FILE PHOTO: Virginia Governor Northam speaks to an gun control rally in Richmond [...] How can people exercising their constitutional rights EVER be considered an "emergency"? And worse, one which is used to 'justify' violation of exactly those rights? I think this Governor Northam needs to FEAR doing what he's planning to do. If he fears that some people are going to violate others' constitutional rights to assembly and to bear arms, he should prepare his government to arrest those who will be doing that violation, not those excertising those rights. And he should never prohibit people from exercising their right to self-defense and to the defense of others, including using guns to do so. It seems to me that the key question is: Does the Governor's declaration clearly and unambiguously violate any local laws or any terms of the Constitution? If yes, then there are ground to fight him (in court ideally). If no, then he's not actually violating the Constitution. Also, if yes (he is violating local law or the Constitution) then this sort of thing represents a crunch point: How far are people willing to go to uphold their Constitutional rights? What exactly does the Constitution allow them (or even require them) to do?
Consider understand scope and some of Natural Law... self defense, liberty, actual freedom, ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Isb83V89iFA https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural_Law https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural_rights_and_legal_rights https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=natural+law https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dIEemKcy-4E With such frame, consider Man's random Common and worse Statutory "Law". And what different "Constitutions" of the world do, or don't, or can't. This particular one... http://vagovernmentmatters.org/archive/files/vaconstitution1776_0366e939fc.p... http://www.wvculture.org/history/government/1830constitution01.html https://law.lis.virginia.gov/constitution/article1/section13/ Constitution of Virginia Article I. Bill of Rights Section 13. Militia; standing armies; military subordinate to civil power "That a well regulated militia, composed of the body of the people, trained to arms, is the proper, natural, and safe defense of a free state, therefore, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed; that standing armies, in time of peace, should be avoided as dangerous to liberty;..." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=diz-8FzHOLM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vioWTwGiELo
How far are people willing to go to uphold their Constitutional rights? What exactly does the Constitution allow them (or even require them) to do?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Declaration_of_Independence https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Revolution https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Civil_War https://i.redd.it/sv71tsew48541.jpg https://www.reddit.com/r/Firearms+gunpolitics+progun+secondamendment/ https://www.vcdl.org/ See the pics... soap box and ballot box... America's democrat politicians seem bent on creating and pushing things into a corner... the third box. Governments have a history of doing that, even democracies, and yours too in time. Have fun... https://www.youtube.com/user/hickok45/videos?view=0&sort=p&flow=grid https://www.80percentarms.com/products/0-billet-ar-15-lower-receiver/ https://defdist.org/ infohash:E7CC094344F903425B54BD0F706D4ECC54E240E0 k-pax
On 1/16/20, Razer <g2s@riseup.net> wrote:
well regulated militia
...implies it is under the authority of a legally elected state government
Clearly no such draw is soley possible over even slightest historical research, some variety even linked. Nor, as history shows, surely best for future... this foolish gamble of placing trust consistantly proven wrong bet since all of history. Pressing that implication, a common tactic among dishonest unresearched commie socialist and statist types in general, their path oft quicker to malaise than others.
Further advocating "authority of a legally elected state government"
Initiating, over top of humans born free who do no such initiating... Such sick subjugatory dreams people seem to have.
welfare derogatory
Socialist self hate.
survive
Perhaps learn to. And advocate educate demonstrate importance on creating charity, a free culture of, recognized as one key to actual freedom, instead of a world based on same old authority theft force murder.
On 1/16/20 4:17 PM, grarpamp wrote:
On 1/16/20, Razer <g2s@riseup.net> wrote:
well regulated militia ...implies it is under the authority of a legally elected state government Clearly no such draw is soley possible over even slightest historical research, some variety even linked. Nor, as history shows, surely best for future... this foolish gamble of placing trust consistantly proven wrong bet since all of history.
Pressing that implication, a common tactic among dishonest unresearched commie socialist and statist types in general, their path oft quicker to malaise than others.
Further advocating "authority of a legally elected state government" Initiating, over top of humans born free who do no such initiating...
Such sick subjugatory dreams people seem to have.
I'll bury your welfare ranchers in a shallow grave on publicly-owned BLM land motherfucker. Rr
welfare derogatory Socialist self hate.
survive Perhaps learn to. And advocate educate demonstrate importance on creating charity, a free culture of, recognized as one key to actual freedom, instead of a world based on same old authority theft force murder.
HAHAHAHA! The constitution give you no rights. It delineates trade relations between the states and foreign relations, tariffs, etc. The BILL OF RIGHTS allegedly does, but it, unlike the RICH WHITE PROPERTY OWNING CHRISTIAN MEN'S constitution, is continually weakened, since the day the constitution was signed, and the RICH WHITE PROPERTY OWNING CHRISTIAN MEN'S constitution is continually strengthened. You have no rights you aren't willing to die for Libertard. Get over it. "Fuck the constitution Are we part of the solution or are we part of the pollution? Sittin' by and wonderin' why, Things ain't the way we like to find them to be, to be For you and for me the people over there and the ones in between You can pass the buck or pass the baton But you can't pass the police or the pentagon The I.R.S. or the upper echelon I think it's time to make a move on the contradiction Bomb-Bomb, rock the nation Take over television and radio station Bomb-Bomb the truth shall come Give the corporation some complication!" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjTVAZDBUJ0
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