The Moon landing again - Fw: Neil Armstrong's Boots
Sound like rather compelling questions to me. But I'm not a physicist, and I never worked for Nike or a boot maker, so I couldn't begin to say how ripple soles got left behind on the Moon. Bah humbug ... prolly someone conspired to think of a theory. ----- Forwarded message from Gil May <gilmay97@gmail.com> ----- From: Gil May <gilmay97@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2016 09:21:54 +1000 Subject: Neil Armstrong's Boots No one has answered my simple question, instead of providing an answer they want to call me names and say I am a conspirator--I am not, I am just asking a fair question. When Neil Armstrong stepped onto the lunar surface he left a deep footprint in the dust showing a *ripple soled imprint, *the photo was shown all around the world. The landing module was about 3 meters in diameter and the thrust rocket central: from “NASA Launch Vehicle/Spacecraft Key Facts <http://history.nasa.gov/SP-4029/Apollo_18-13_Launch_Vehicle-Spacecraft_Key_Facts.htm>, LM descent stage maximum rated thrust = 9,870 lbf (43,904 N)”. This massive thrust would have blown the dust away from the landing area creating a massive dust cloud, so why was thick dust still on the ground and no massive dust cloud? Please explain NASA. [image: Inline image 3] In July, 46 years to the day after the first moon walk, the *Smithsonian's National Air and Space Museum* in Washington, D.C., started its first Kickstarter campaign, asking for money to preserve the spacesuit Neil Armstrong wore when he stepped off Apollo 11 onto the moon in 1969. Oct 15, 2015 How the Smithsonian Will Save Neil Armstrong's Spacesuit <http://www.popularmechanics.com/space/moon-mars/a17583/neil-armstrong-spacesuit/> *www.popularmechanics.com/ <http://www.popularmechanics.com/>space/moon-mars/a17583/neil-armstrong-spacesuit* [image: Inline image 2] [image: Inline image 1] NASA verified this was the actual space suit worn by Neil Armstrong, interesting to see the boots have no ripple sole. Please explain NASA. My father often said “Do not ask difficult questions you upset folk and get called names”. Oh Dear! Cheers
On 07/11/2016 04:49 PM, Zenaan Harkness wrote:
This massive thrust would have blown the dust away from the landing area creating a massive dust cloud, so why was thick dust still on the ground and no massive dust cloud? Please explain NASA.
Coulda woulda shouda... All I know is my dad, as mentioned previously, worked for NASA as a tech writer coordinator and also worked the Gemini and Apollo series. As a keepsake, he gave me one of those "Omega Moon Watches" that were mementos for mission workers. It wasn't a retail distribution which were all self-winders. It was an old fashioned wind-up. Why? They didn't know if a self-winder would work in Zero gravity... WHO ON FUCKING EARTH would bother to create a hoax so complex you'd have to do that to cover your ass? Rr Ps. the watch didn't keep time worth a shit and I sold it to a collector for a couple of hundred dollars.
On Mon, Jul 11, 2016 at 07:01:53PM -0700, Rayzer wrote:
On 07/11/2016 04:49 PM, Zenaan Harkness wrote:
This massive thrust would have blown the dust away from the landing area creating a massive dust cloud, so why was thick dust still on the ground and no massive dust cloud? Please explain NASA.
Coulda woulda shouda... All I know is my dad, as mentioned previously, worked for NASA as a tech writer coordinator and also worked the Gemini and Apollo series. As a keepsake, he gave me one of those "Omega Moon Watches" that were mementos for mission workers. It wasn't a retail distribution which were all self-winders. It was an old fashioned wind-up.
Why? They didn't know if a self-winder would work in Zero gravity...
WHO ON FUCKING EARTH would bother to create a hoax so complex you'd have to do that to cover your ass?
Certainly not a retailer acting in naieve self interest, and who has no inside access to the set being used to fake the landings and moon rover films.
Rr Ps. the watch didn't keep time worth a shit and I sold it to a collector for a couple of hundred dollars.
PS No one said Omega watch company was in on the conspiracy! Who on firetrucking earth would bother to consider they were?
On 07/11/2016 04:49 PM, Zenaan Harkness wrote:
This massive thrust would have blown the dust away from the landing area creating a massive dust cloud, so why was thick dust still on the ground and no massive dust cloud? Please explain NASA.
Coulda woulda shouda... All I know is my dad, as mentioned
with the number of staff that work at nasa how exactly would it be that they were all in on the conspiracy?way too many people to have such a thing pulled off in secrecy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Zenaan Harkness" To: Cc: Sent:Tue, 12 Jul 2016 14:09:42 +1000 Subject:Re: The Moon landing again - Fw: Neil Armstrong's Watch [Was: Boots] On Mon, Jul 11, 2016 at 07:01:53PM -0700, Rayzer wrote: previously,
worked for NASA as a tech writer coordinator and also worked the Gemini and Apollo series. As a keepsake, he gave me one of those "Omega Moon Watches" that were mementos for mission workers. It wasn't a retail distribution which were all self-winders. It was an old fashioned wind-up.
Why? They didn't know if a self-winder would work in Zero gravity...
WHO ON FUCKING EARTH would bother to create a hoax so complex you'd have to do that to cover your ass?
Certainly not a retailer acting in naieve self interest, and who has no inside access to the set being used to fake the landings and moon rover films.
Rr Ps. the watch didn't keep time worth a shit and I sold it to a
collector > for a couple of hundred dollars.
PS No one said Omega watch company was in on the conspiracy! Who on firetrucking earth would bother to consider they were?
Googling for "Neil Armstrong's boots" returns tons of photographs of the protective outer overshoe boot cover... Just sayin... :-) On Mon, Jul 11, 2016 at 7:49 PM, Zenaan Harkness <zen@freedbms.net> wrote:
Sound like rather compelling questions to me. But I'm not a physicist, and I never worked for Nike or a boot maker, so I couldn't begin to say how ripple soles got left behind on the Moon.
Bah humbug ... prolly someone conspired to think of a theory.
----- Forwarded message from Gil May <gilmay97@gmail.com> ----- From: Gil May <gilmay97@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2016 09:21:54 +1000 Subject: Neil Armstrong's Boots
No one has answered my simple question, instead of providing an answer they want to call me names and say I am a conspirator--I am not, I am just asking a fair question.
When Neil Armstrong stepped onto the lunar surface he left a deep footprint in the dust showing a *ripple soled imprint, *the photo was shown all around the world. The landing module was about 3 meters in diameter and the thrust rocket central: from “NASA Launch Vehicle/Spacecraft Key Facts <http://history.nasa.gov/SP-4029/Apollo_18-13_Launch_Vehicle-Spacecraft_Key_Facts.htm>, LM descent stage maximum rated thrust = 9,870 lbf (43,904 N)”. This massive thrust would have blown the dust away from the landing area creating a massive dust cloud, so why was thick dust still on the ground and no massive dust cloud? Please explain NASA.
[image: Inline image 3]
In July, 46 years to the day after the first moon walk, the *Smithsonian's National Air and Space Museum* in Washington, D.C., started its first Kickstarter campaign, asking for money to preserve the spacesuit Neil Armstrong wore when he stepped off Apollo 11 onto the moon in 1969. Oct 15, 2015
How the Smithsonian Will Save Neil Armstrong's Spacesuit <http://www.popularmechanics.com/space/moon-mars/a17583/neil-armstrong-spacesuit/> *www.popularmechanics.com/ <http://www.popularmechanics.com/>space/moon-mars/a17583/neil-armstrong-spacesuit*
[image: Inline image 2] [image: Inline image 1] NASA verified this was the actual space suit worn by Neil Armstrong, interesting to see the boots have no ripple sole. Please explain NASA. My father often said “Do not ask difficult questions you upset folk and get called names”.
Oh Dear! Cheers
From: Tom <tom@vondein.org>
This massive thrust would have blown the dust away from the landing area creating a massive dust cloud, so why was thick dust still on the ground and no massive dust cloud? Please explain NASA. No atmosphere, no blowing. - Tom I'd answer this somewhat differently. The rocket jet would indeed dislodge the dust: The particleswould acquire velocities, and would follow mostly-parabolic paths and eventually collide with and stayon the surface again. While this might be labelled a "cloud", unlike in Earth's atmosphere these particles will presumably return to the Moon's surface in a few seconds, yet far away from the lunar lander. As to "why was thick dust still on the ground", most likely the dust was very thick. (many meters).From: http://curator.jsc.nasa.gov/lunar/letss/regolith.pdf "The lunar surface is covered by a layer ofunconsolidated debris called the lunar regolith (fig. 53).The thickness of the regolith varies from about 5 m onmare surfaces to about 10 m on highland surfaces. Thebulk of the regolith is a fine gray soil with a density ofabout 1.5 g/cm3, but the regolith also includes brecciaand rock fragments from the local bedrock (reviewsby Heiken et al. 1974 and Papike et al. 1982). Abouthalf the weight of a lunar soil is less than 60 to 80 micronsin size. The grain size distribution is given in figure 55."
There may be an additional factor. As I vaguely recall, there is an odd electrostatic attraction between the particles of lunar soil. Perhaps not surprising, because except for subsurfacefrozen-water deposits (and some polar craters) the moon is 'dry as a bone'.
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