On Mon, Jul 11, 2016 at 07:01:53PM -0700, Rayzer wrote:

On 07/11/2016 04:49 PM, Zenaan Harkness wrote:

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This massive thrust would have blown the dust away from the landing area creating a massive dust cloud, so why was thick dust still on the ground and no massive dust cloud? Please explain NASA.

Coulda woulda shouda... All I know is my dad, as mentioned previously, worked for NASA as a tech writer coordinator and also worked the Gemini and Apollo series. As a keepsake, he gave me one of those "Omega Moon Watches" that were mementos for mission workers. It wasn't a retail distribution which were all self-winders. It was an old fashioned wind-up.

Why? They didn't know if a self-winder would work in Zero gravity...

WHO ON FUCKING EARTH would bother to create a hoax so complex you'd have to do that to cover your ass?

Certainly not a retailer acting in naieve self interest, and who has no inside access to the set being used to fake the landings and moon rover films.

Rr Ps. the watch didn't keep time worth a shit and I sold it to a collector for a couple of hundred dollars.

PS No one said Omega watch company was in on the conspiracy! Who on firetrucking earth would bother to consider they were?

From: Tom

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This massive thrust would have blown the dust away from the landing area creating a massive dust cloud, so why was thick dust still on the ground and no massive dust cloud? Please explain NASA. No atmosphere, no blowing.    - Tom I'd answer this somewhat differently.  The rocket jet would indeed dislodge the dust:  The particleswould acquire velocities, and would follow mostly-parabolic paths and eventually collide with and stayon the surface again. While this might be labelled a "cloud", unlike in Earth's atmosphere these particles will presumably return to the Moon's surface in a few seconds, yet far away from the lunar lander. As to "why was thick dust still on the ground", most likely the dust was very thick.  (many meters).From:   http://curator.jsc.nasa.gov/lunar/letss/regolith.pdf "The lunar surface is covered by a layer ofunconsolidated debris called the lunar regolith (fig. 53).The thickness of the regolith varies from about 5 m onmare surfaces to about 10 m on highland surfaces. Thebulk of the regolith is a fine gray soil with a density ofabout 1.5 g/cm3, but the regolith also includes brecciaand rock fragments from the local bedrock (reviewsby Heiken et al. 1974 and Papike et al. 1982). Abouthalf the weight of a lunar soil is less than 60 to 80 micronsin size. The grain size distribution is given in figure 55."

There may be an additional factor.  As I vaguely recall, there is an odd electrostatic attraction between the particles of lunar soil.  Perhaps not surprising, because except for subsurfacefrozen-water deposits (and some polar craters) the moon is 'dry as a bone'.