Re: Improvement on the Jim Bell AP
I want to add that this improvement works because who put the money isn't probably interested on who should die first, every politics should die, the order isn't really important. Another good thing about this way it is that if some politicians have some money shared on their heads, everyone of them will be incentived to kill himself the others, his colleagues, by hoping to lower the money on his own head. -------- Original Message -------- From: weroh@Safe-mail.net Apparently from: cypherpunks-bounces@lists.cpunks.org To: cypherpunks@lists.cpunks.org Subject: Improvement on the Jim Bell AP Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2018 20:26:32 -0400
I thought about a way to make an "improvement" on the Jim Bell AP.
I think that this will make it "cheaper", faster and so more effective.
It starts from the part that as there could be more assassins competing for the prize.
Some of them can be uncertain that the prize could be too much low for the risk of killing the politician.
But at the same time, because of the possible competing killers, everyone of them can even be afraid that another assassin could be brave, skilled or just lucky to being able to kill the politician for a lower prize.
So this is already a good incentive to push all the killers to try to kill the politician for a lower prize.
What I thought is a way to make this incentive even more effective.
"Shared money"
Everyone should be able (if they want) to put their money on more politicians "contemporary", even on every politicians on the service or others that they can add later.
Those shared money should be pubblic visible to everyone, so even killers should be able to see them at any time.
On the possible interface of the service, it should be possible, by clicking on a politician, to see how much money on him are shared with other politicians.
So what happen when if one of the politicians that has some shared money on him gets killed?
Those shared money will obviously get removed by all the prize of all the other selected politicians (chosen before by the users that have put their own money) and will go to the winning killer.
With this, I think that all killers will then know that while they are thinking about killing "Politician A", if the money on his prize is shared with other 4/5 politicians, they will be now even worried that another killer will terminate one of the other politicians, and so then lowering the prize of their selected politician as a possible target.
Users will still be happy because another politician has been killed anyway.
Users will then be able to put even 1$ contemporary on every politician of their country (or the entire world), waiting that the first one of them gets killed.
Then again, 1$ over all the remaining politicians and so on ...
What do you think about this idea/improvement?
Is it clear enough?
Absolutely correct! As I anticipated before I wrote part 1 of the AP essay, there isn't a requirement that large numbers of people die. Rather, it merely needs to be clear that the AP system COULD kill them, if it came to that. One fallacious criticism of AP that I occasionally saw in the 1990s was, more or less: 'Assassinations occur. they don't accomplish anything'. My answer: Ordinary, 'traditional' assassinations tend to be done by 'lone nuts'. They are rather rare. The issue is, once one assassination occurs, how likely is it that a second assassination follows promptly? Put another way, how confident is the replacement government employee that he won't be targeted when he replaces the first target? With the "lone nut" model, that employee can feel very safe. With the AP model, he won't feel safe. You also said, "Another good thing about this way it is that if some politicians have some money shared on their heads, everyone of them will be incentived to kill himself the others, his colleagues, by hoping to lower the money on his own head." Very possible! I long recognized that one advantage of offering a bounty to EVERYBODY, rather than one or a tiny number of potential assassins, is that the target doesn't know from where the blow will be struck. The advantage will generally be to people who have access to the target, as a part of ordinary life or their jobs. Jim Bell On Monday, August 6, 2018, 4:49:07 PM PDT, weroh@Safe-mail.net <weroh@Safe-mail.net> wrote: I want to add that this improvement works because who put the money isn't probably interested on who should die first, every politics should die, the order isn't really important. Another good thing about this way it is that if some politicians have some money shared on their heads, everyone of them will be incentived to kill himself the others, his colleagues, by hoping to lower the money on his own head. -------- Original Message -------- From: weroh@Safe-mail.net Apparently from: cypherpunks-bounces@lists.cpunks.org To: cypherpunks@lists.cpunks.org Subject: Improvement on the Jim Bell AP Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2018 20:26:32 -0400
I thought about a way to make an "improvement" on the Jim Bell AP.
I think that this will make it "cheaper", faster and so more effective.
It starts from the part that as there could be more assassins competing for the prize.
Some of them can be uncertain that the prize could be too much low for the risk of killing the politician.
But at the same time, because of the possible competing killers, everyone of them can even be afraid that another assassin could be brave, skilled or just lucky to being able to kill the politician for a lower prize.
So this is already a good incentive to push all the killers to try to kill the politician for a lower prize.
What I thought is a way to make this incentive even more effective.
"Shared money"
Everyone should be able (if they want) to put their money on more politicians "contemporary", even on every politicians on the service or others that they can add later.
Those shared money should be pubblic visible to everyone, so even killers should be able to see them at any time.
On the possible interface of the service, it should be possible, by clicking on a politician, to see how much money on him are shared with other politicians.
So what happen when if one of the politicians that has some shared money on him gets killed?
Those shared money will obviously get removed by all the prize of all the other selected politicians (chosen before by the users that have put their own money) and will go to the winning killer.
With this, I think that all killers will then know that while they are thinking about killing "Politician A", if the money on his prize is shared with other 4/5 politicians, they will be now even worried that another killer will terminate one of the other politicians, and so then lowering the prize of their selected politician as a possible target.
Users will still be happy because another politician has been killed anyway.
Users will then be able to put even 1$ contemporary on every politician of their country (or the entire world), waiting that the first one of them gets killed.
Then again, 1$ over all the remaining politicians and so on ...
What do you think about this idea/improvement?
Is it clear enough?
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jim bell
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weroh@Safe-mail.net