Re: [ultra private] [for your eyes only] capitalism, socialism, anarchism, etc
On 08/30/2016 07:17 PM, juan wrote:
On Tue, 30 Aug 2016 19:00:33 -0700 Razer <rayzer@riseup.net> wrote:
Your civil society without oversight is absolute bullshit.
What do you mean by 'oversight'? Apart from yet again showing that you don't know fuck about liberalism.
I'm proposing, as so many political writers in history have purported, thet first there has to be change in the people.
What THE FUCK are you talking about. And who are the so many 'political writers' you invoke. Go ahead, post the long list.
Roszak Marcuse RD Laing Paul Goodman For a start. Don't like 'em? No one cares. TSOL and fuck off.
Desperation over economics caused by insecurity of a product like food doesn't lend to that security. I propose (GASP!) that you have to be the fucking change you want to see in society. What a fucking revolutionary concept
See rayzer you are nothing but a pathetic charlatan. Try again, tell 'us' what kind of political system you subscribe to and explain how it would 'work'
Sorry. Really not interested in writing a treatise on how to live honorably.
On Tue, 30 Aug 2016 19:44:56 -0700 Razer <rayzer@riseup.net> wrote:
On 08/30/2016 07:17 PM, juan wrote:
On Tue, 30 Aug 2016 19:00:33 -0700 Razer <rayzer@riseup.net> wrote:
Your civil society without oversight is absolute bullshit.
What do you mean by 'oversight'? Apart from yet again showing that you don't know fuck about liberalism.
I'm still waiting for you to explain what you meant by 'oversight'. Of course, I'd bet a couple of cents that 'oversight' means 'state' or 'government', but I'm giving you a chance for you to embarrass yourself in a less crass way.
I'm proposing, as so many political writers in history have purported, thet first there has to be change in the people.
What THE FUCK are you talking about. And who are the so many 'political writers' you invoke. Go ahead, post the long list.
Roszak Marcuse RD Laing Paul Goodman
For a start. Don't like 'em? No one cares. TSOL and fuck off.
So what's that? Looks like a bunch a clowns from the New Left and 'recycled' state socialist? LOL
Sorry. Really not interested in writing a treatise on how to live honorably.
Translation : I can't even NAME the garbage political system I consider 'honorable' - 'honorable' isn't that a feudal/petit burgeois term or something?? Anyway, what are you interested in? You obviously don't belong in a supposedly crypto anarchist mailing. You are hostile to libertarian philosophy, and you are an apologist of the pentagon's fake anonimity network. So rayzer, what's your game?
On 08/30/2016 09:14 PM, juan wrote:
On Tue, 30 Aug 2016 19:44:56 -0700 Razer <rayzer@riseup.net> wrote:
On 08/30/2016 07:17 PM, juan wrote:
On Tue, 30 Aug 2016 19:00:33 -0700 Razer <rayzer@riseup.net> wrote:
Your civil society without oversight is absolute bullshit.
What do you mean by 'oversight'? Apart from yet again showing that you don't know fuck about liberalism.
I'm still waiting for you to explain what you meant by 'oversight'.
Of course, I'd bet a couple of cents that 'oversight' means 'state' or 'government', but I'm giving you a chance for you to embarrass yourself in a less crass way.
Forget government. Private enforcement. If you injure collectively through malice or oversight, you get injured collectively. Maybe something like AP. Or even just escrow. But reputation management just won't suffice.
I'm proposing, as so many political writers in history have purported, thet first there has to be change in the people.
What THE FUCK are you talking about. And who are the so many 'political writers' you invoke. Go ahead, post the long list.
Roszak Marcuse RD Laing Paul Goodman
For a start. Don't like 'em? No one cares. TSOL and fuck off.
So what's that? Looks like a bunch a clowns from the New Left and 'recycled' state socialist? LOL
Sorry. Really not interested in writing a treatise on how to live honorably.
Translation : I can't even NAME the garbage political system I consider 'honorable' - 'honorable' isn't that a feudal/petit burgeois term or something??
Anyway, what are you interested in? You obviously don't belong in a supposedly crypto anarchist mailing. You are hostile to libertarian philosophy, and you are an apologist of the pentagon's fake anonimity network. So rayzer, what's your game?
On 08/30/2016 08:14 PM, juan wrote:
You obviously don't belong
Awww Butthurt! End of convo. Rr
On Tue, 30 Aug 2016 19:44:56 -0700 Razer <rayzer@riseup.net> wrote:
On 08/30/2016 07:17 PM, juan wrote:
On Tue, 30 Aug 2016 19:00:33 -0700 Razer <rayzer@riseup.net> wrote:
Your civil society without oversight is absolute bullshit.
What do you mean by 'oversight'? Apart from yet again showing that you don't know fuck about liberalism.
I'm still waiting for you to explain what you meant by 'oversight'.
Of course, I'd bet a couple of cents that 'oversight' means 'state' or 'government', but I'm giving you a chance for you to embarrass yourself in a less crass way.
I'm proposing, as so many political writers in history have purported, thet first there has to be change in the people.
What THE FUCK are you talking about. And who are the so many 'political writers' you invoke. Go ahead, post the long list.
Roszak Marcuse RD Laing Paul Goodman
For a start. Don't like 'em? No one cares. TSOL and fuck off.
So what's that? Looks like a bunch a clowns from the New Left and 'recycled' state socialist? LOL
Sorry. Really not interested in writing a treatise on how to live honorably.
Translation : I can't even NAME the garbage political system I consider 'honorable' - 'honorable' isn't that a feudal/petit burgeois term or something??
Anyway, what are you interested in? You obviously don't belong in a supposedly crypto anarchist mailing. You are hostile to libertarian philosophy, and you are an apologist of the pentagon's fake anonimity network. So rayzer, what's your game?
On Tue, 30 Aug 2016 20:42:41 -0700 Razer <rayzer@riseup.net> wrote:
On 08/30/2016 08:14 PM, juan wrote:
You obviously don't belong
Awww Butthurt!
me? not really. Perhaps you? Don't feel butthurt rayzer, but if you do, then follow #american-fascist-marxists-new-left on shitter.
End of convo.
the convo ended when you refused to explain what you mean by 'oversight' of civil society so yeah.
Rr
On 08/30/2016 09:17 PM, juan wrote:
On Tue, 30 Aug 2016 20:42:41 -0700 Razer <rayzer@riseup.net> wrote:
On 08/30/2016 08:14 PM, juan wrote:
You obviously don't belong
Awww Butthurt!
me? not really. Perhaps you? Don't feel butthurt rayzer, but if you do, then follow #american-fascist-marxists-new-left on shitter.
End of convo.
the convo ended when you refused to explain what you mean by 'oversight' of civil society
so yeah.
You oversee yourself schmuck. You HAVE TO CREATE, from SCRATCH, a society of people who do that and adhere to others who self-regulate... because the tide's been going the other way for hundreds and hundreds of years now. You aren't doing your part Juan (visualizing a blood-stained wall). You don't even have any suggestions except that other people's suggestions are garbage. You're a motherfucking army of one aren't you? You must be a very lonely ineffectual person. Rr
On Wed, Aug 31, 2016 at 07:39:35AM -0700, Razer wrote:
On 08/30/2016 09:17 PM, juan wrote:
On Tue, 30 Aug 2016 20:42:41 -0700 Razer <rayzer@riseup.net> wrote:
End of convo.
the convo ended when you refused to explain what you mean by
lol. they keep amateur insults in long ago "ended convo".
On Wed, 31 Aug 2016 07:39:35 -0700 Razer <rayzer@riseup.net> wrote:
the convo ended when you refused to explain what you mean by 'oversight' of civil society
so yeah.
You oversee yourself schmuck.
The topic was civil society, not 'me'.
You HAVE TO CREATE, from SCRATCH, a society of people who do that and adhere to others who self-regulate...
Self-regulate according to which principles? First you made a ridiculous comment about how a free society would work and now you are making abstract and general comments...that mean almost nothing.
because the tide's been going the other way for hundreds and hundreds of years now.
You aren't doing your part Juan
Your opinion =)
(visualizing a blood-stained wall).
I wonder what that means.
You don't even have any suggestions except that other people's suggestions are garbage. You're a motherfucking army of one aren't you?
So you obviously have a problem with your stupid propaganda being called out eh. I'm soo sorry rayzer if I made your job as pentagon's torbot slightly harder. Oh, and regarding the size of my army : "mas vale solo que mal acompaniado"
You must be a very lonely ineffectual person.
As opposed to being a moral or/and material member of the pentagon's left wing or any other collective mafia or 'brotherhood'?
Rr
On 08/31/2016 01:20 PM, juan quoted me then wrote:
You must be a very lonely ineffectual person.
As opposed to being a moral or/and material member of the pentagon's left wing or any other collective mafia or 'brotherhood'?
What I meant. You're the fed. Rr
On Wed, 31 Aug 2016 07:39:35 -0700 Razer <rayzer@riseup.net> wrote:
the convo ended when you refused to explain what you mean by 'oversight' of civil society
so yeah.
You oversee yourself schmuck.
The topic was civil society, not 'me'.
You HAVE TO CREATE, from SCRATCH, a society of people who do that and adhere to others who self-regulate...
Self-regulate according to which principles? First you made a ridiculous comment about how a free society would work and now you are making abstract and general comments...that mean almost nothing.
because the tide's been going the other way for hundreds and hundreds of years now.
You aren't doing your part Juan
Your opinion =)
(visualizing a blood-stained wall).
I wonder what that means.
You don't even have any suggestions except that other people's suggestions are garbage. You're a motherfucking army of one aren't you?
So you obviously have a problem with your stupid propaganda being called out eh. I'm soo sorry rayzer if I made your job as pentagon's torbot slightly harder.
Oh, and regarding the size of my army : "mas vale solo que mal acompaniado"
Rr
Razer <rayzer@riseup.net> vomited :
marcusse
So for completness sake, here's rayzer spiritual mentor https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/marcuse/works/1969/essay-liberati... Well, I learnt something today! That deranged scumbag narcusse was a psicobolche* =) =) =) "The Expression of Genre: Capitalist neopatriarchial theory and the dialectic paradigm of narrative" "Subcapitalist textual theory and expressionism" "Dialectic cultural theory, capitalism and social realism" "Posttextual Appropriations: Subdialectic discourse and the modernist paradigm of expression" et cetera http://www.elsewhere.org/journal/pomo/ *find out how many US government agents like me know that spanish word rayzer.
On 09/01/2016 06:24 PM, juan wanted me to do something for him:
*find out how many US government agents like me know that spanish word rayzer.
The Defense Language Institute teaches feds like you how to cuss like a Mexican... At other facilities they have whole mock-up villages where you learn to live like one too! (But they don't teach you how to sleep in the berry fields.) Rr
Razer <rayzer@riseup.net> vomited :
marcusse
So for completness sake, here's rayzer spiritual mentor
https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/marcuse/works/1969/essay-liberati...
Well, I learnt something today! That deranged scumbag narcusse was a psicobolche* =) =) =)
"The Expression of Genre: Capitalist neopatriarchial theory and the dialectic paradigm of narrative"
"Subcapitalist textual theory and expressionism"
"Dialectic cultural theory, capitalism and social realism"
"Posttextual Appropriations: Subdialectic discourse and the modernist paradigm of expression"
et cetera
http://www.elsewhere.org/journal/pomo/
*find out how many US government agents like me know that spanish word rayzer.
On Thu, 1 Sep 2016 18:52:55 -0700 Razer <rayzer@riseup.net> wrote:
On 09/01/2016 06:24 PM, juan wanted me to do something for him:
*find out how many US government agents like me know that spanish word rayzer.
The Defense Language Institute
First time I see that name. You are more familiar with it apparently. Perhaps family or friends work there?
teaches feds like you how to cuss like a Mexican...
? Mexican? Oh wait, you are the kind of american right winger who think that the whole of central america and south america is mexico? And mexico's capital is rio de janeiro? OK - So your few neurons have the "spanish - mexican" connection well established. Let me clue you in. "Psicobolche" belongs to one particular variety of spanish not spoken in mexico...
At other facilities they have whole mock-up villages where you learn to live like one too! (But they don't teach you how to sleep in the berry fields.)
Rr
On 09/01/2016 07:27 PM, juan wrote:
On Thu, 1 Sep 2016 18:52:55 -0700 Razer <rayzer@riseup.net> wrote:
On 09/01/2016 06:24 PM, juan wanted me to do something for him:
*find out how many US government agents like me know that spanish word rayzer.
The Defense Language Institute
First time I see that name. You are more familiar with it apparently. Perhaps family or friends work there?
teaches feds like you how to cuss like a Mexican...
? Mexican? Oh wait, you are the kind of american right winger who think that the whole of central america and south america is mexico? And mexico's capital is rio de janeiro?
OK - So your few neurons have the "spanish - mexican" connection well established.
Let me clue you in. "Psicobolche" belongs to one particular variety of spanish not spoken in mexico...
At other facilities they have whole mock-up villages where you learn to live like one too! (But they don't teach you how to sleep in the berry fields.)
Rr
Honestly Juan. like whatshisname who fed-fucked the anonymous kidz. A Puerto Rican who'd never been out of New York, you're all 'merican. The spew dude the spew... fed-fucker... Rr
On 09/01/2016 08:34 PM, Razer wrote:
On 09/01/2016 07:27 PM, juan wrote:
On Thu, 1 Sep 2016 18:52:55 -0700 Razer <rayzer@riseup.net> wrote:
On 09/01/2016 06:24 PM, juan wanted me to do something for him:
*find out how many US government agents like me know that spanish word rayzer.
The Defense Language Institute
First time I see that name. You are more familiar with it apparently. Perhaps family or friends work there?
teaches feds like you how to cuss like a Mexican...
? Mexican? Oh wait, you are the kind of american right winger who think that the whole of central america and south america is mexico? And mexico's capital is rio de janeiro?
OK - So your few neurons have the "spanish - mexican" connection well established.
Let me clue you in. "Psicobolche" belongs to one particular variety of spanish not spoken in mexico...
At other facilities they have whole mock-up villages where you learn to live like one too! (But they don't teach you how to sleep in the berry fields.)
Rr
Honestly Juan. like whatshisname who fed-fucked the anonymous kidz. A Puerto Rican who'd never been out of New York, you're all 'merican. The spew dude the spew... fed-fucker...
He does claim to be from Argentina, as I recall. And it seems that psicobolche is Argentinian Spanish: https://www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/spanish/psicobolche But "leftist psychoanalyst"? WTF?
Rr
On Thu, Sep 1, 2016 at 10:27 PM, juan <juan.g71@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, 1 Sep 2016 18:52:55 -0700 Razer <rayzer@riseup.net> wrote:
The Defense Language Institute
First time I see that name. You are more familiar with it apparently. Perhaps family or friends work there?
Or maybe just half the internet already knows and studied it, whether onsite or at home... https://thepiratebay.org/search/defense%20language/0/99/0 https://thepiratebay.org/search/dli/0/99/0
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