-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA512 Lack of interest and engagement???? Maybe I'm thinking of different things here, but OTR is part and parcel of how Adium works, and cypherpunks has an OTR plugin for Pidgin. And these tools are very widely used by those who utilize XMPP option through either Adium or Pidgin with OTR! There's no lack of interest in it. As an aside: You can use https://tox.im with Pidgin or Adium: 1) https://lilithlela.cyberguerrilla.org/?p=3060 2) https://wiki.tox.im/Tox_Pidgin_Protocol_Plugin 3) https://wiki.tox.im/Adium_Tox_Plugin So... getting to my question: Griffin, by lack of interest and engagement, do you mean that more people need to comment on tools.ietf.org/html/draft-miller-xmpp-e2e in order for it to move forward, or... something else? And if our comments in support of this object-encryption standard are needed, to who should they be best directed for greatest effect? Griffin Boyce:

FYI:

-------- Original Message -------- From: Joseph Lorenzo Hall Sent: November 11, 2014 7:18:49 PM EST To: liberationtech Subject: [liberationtech] XMPP object encryption at IETF about to die...

I'm here at IETF 91 hanging with all the protocol nerds. I was talking to someone about OTR and they pointed out that the object-encryption standard for XMPP that has been put forward is about to die due to lack of interest and engagement:

http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-miller-xmpp-e2e

Has anyone seen this and thinks it could be a good thing to standardize? I realize it's a subset of what OTR provides but I'm wondering if this could be something we as a community might want to work with in this kind of standards body.

Any e2e-has-a-posse folks have an interest here or is standardization not an interest or desire?

best, Joe

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