Re: [cryptome] how embassy eavesdropping works
Duncan Cambell is one of the few journalists superbly gifted in science, technology and informed analysis. He has a degree in nuclear physics, his mom reportedly a long-time employee of a UK spy agency, which must have led to great dinner convos when he and two other youngsters were prosecuted in 1978 for violating the OSA, and found innocent (she was an enthusiastic supporter): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ABC_trial Duncan introduced Cryptome in 1996 to 5-Eyes Echelon, Nicky Hager, Mike Frost, Perry Fellwock (outed NSA in 1974), and their bountiful reports on global surveillance in the 1980s and 1990s. Summary of their digging into secrets without benefit of leak and fixed slot machines, their voluminous and generous hard work done back then that led to today's dribbling parsimonious and niggardly news: http://cryptome.org/nsa-cryptome.htm Duncan had a long email exchange with Microsoft in 2000 about the so-called NSA_key which allegedly allowed covert access to MS products: http://cryptome.org/nsakey-ms-dc.htm And, Germany knew about 5-eyes spying in 2000: http://cryptome.org/jya/echelon-de-spy.htm What Duncan and these master researchers could do with the Snowden pile can only be dreamed about, unless, we pray, the pile has been shared with them (rumors they have helped WL). Certainly they could outdo the The Guardian (Campbell reports there occasionally), New York Times, Der Spiegel, WaPo, WSJ, et al lightweight poseurs. At 09:52 AM 10/28/2013, you wrote:
Some more gory details, several images.
http://www.duncancampbell.org/embassy-bugging
How embassy eavesdropping works
John Young:
What Duncan and these master researchers could do with the Snowden pile can only be dreamed about, unless, we pray, the pile has been shared with them (rumors they have helped WL). Certainly they could outdo the The Guardian (Campbell reports there occasionally), New York Times, Der Spiegel, WaPo, WSJ, et al lightweight poseurs.
A number of us have been working with Duncan. Our latest cover story in Der Spiegel ("Das Nest") involved extensive discussions and research with him. He's a brilliant guy and a joy to work with on these topics. All the best, Jacob
I'll understand if you don't answer, but I have to ask. Have you forwarded him a large chunk of the package so he can see if there is something really big in there? or has your group been feeding him only the documents you want to feed him? On 28/10/2013 11:44 AM, Jacob Appelbaum wrote:
John Young:
What Duncan and these master researchers could do with the Snowden pile can only be dreamed about, unless, we pray, the pile has been shared with them (rumors they have helped WL). Certainly they could outdo the The Guardian (Campbell reports there occasionally), New York Times, Der Spiegel, WaPo, WSJ, et al lightweight poseurs.
A number of us have been working with Duncan. Our latest cover story in Der Spiegel ("Das Nest") involved extensive discussions and research with him.
He's a brilliant guy and a joy to work with on these topics.
All the best, Jacob
-- Kelly John Rose Mississauga, ON Phone: +1 647 638-4104 Twitter: @kjrose Document contents are confidential between original recipients and sender.
Kelly John Rose:
I'll understand if you don't answer, but I have to ask.
Have you forwarded him a large chunk of the package so he can see if there is something really big in there? or has your group been feeding him only the documents you want to feed him?
Huh? There are a lot of assumptions in your statement that are totally off base. I speak for myself - not some undefined group that you're referencing. I work very openly with Duncan about everything I've seen, heard or have evidence to substantiate. Duncan is a personal friend and frankly, an inspiration. I don't 'feed' him anything - I work with him in any capacity that we're able to make happen. The largest problem working with Duncan is that I don't feel safe traveling to the UK. Their extremely heavy handed government policies that attempt to suppress the press are out of control. There are many important stories in the works. You may enjoy our latest story which is the seed for the front page story of nearly every single German language paper: http://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/cover-story-how-nsa-spied-on-mer... I plan to work with Duncan on many stories in the future - he is a pleasure to work with and he is brilliant. He is also kind - something a lot of folks tend to lack as a quality. All the best, Jacob
Oh, genuinely sorry for any assumptions not being made clear. I didn't mean
to imply anything negative of the sort.
I find the whole organization around the handling of these documents to be
fascinating, and I was just curious if people were providing the entire
package to researchers or if they were providing only small subsets of
documents that match stories they are working on.
No offense intended, and I apologize if I came across that way in my short
message.
On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 12:51 PM, Jacob Appelbaum
Kelly John Rose:
I'll understand if you don't answer, but I have to ask.
Have you forwarded him a large chunk of the package so he can see if there is something really big in there? or has your group been feeding him only the documents you want to feed him?
Huh? There are a lot of assumptions in your statement that are totally off base. I speak for myself - not some undefined group that you're referencing.
I work very openly with Duncan about everything I've seen, heard or have evidence to substantiate. Duncan is a personal friend and frankly, an inspiration. I don't 'feed' him anything - I work with him in any capacity that we're able to make happen. The largest problem working with Duncan is that I don't feel safe traveling to the UK. Their extremely heavy handed government policies that attempt to suppress the press are out of control.
There are many important stories in the works. You may enjoy our latest story which is the seed for the front page story of nearly every single German language paper:
http://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/cover-story-how-nsa-spied-on-mer...
I plan to work with Duncan on many stories in the future - he is a pleasure to work with and he is brilliant. He is also kind - something a lot of folks tend to lack as a quality.
All the best, Jacob
-- Kelly John Rose Toronto, ON Phone: +1 647 638-4104 Twitter: @kjrose Skype: kjrose.pr Gtalk: iam@kjro.se MSN: msn@kjro.se Document contents are confidential between original recipients and sender.
At 08:44 AM 10/28/2013, Jacob Appelbaum wrote:
A number of us have been working with Duncan. Our latest cover story in Der Spiegel ("Das Nest") involved extensive discussions and research with him.
He's a brilliant guy and a joy to work with on these topics.
Back when cypherpunks physical meetings were interesting, before I took over running them (:-), Duncan came and gave a talk to us at Stanford about Echeleon. Glad to see he's still working this beat - his talk was insightful and deeply researched.
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