Rogue States and Diplomacy: a Conversation With Noam Chomsky
Rogue States and Diplomacy: a Conversation With Noam Chomsky http://www.counterpunch.org/2015/09/17/rogue-states-and-diplomacy-a-conversa... The interview is quite long, focusing on the USA Republican reaction to the Iran sanction-lifting deal, amongst other things. Noam seems to be a Professor, so I guess his arguments might be too intellectual for the unwashed masses. Here is one question and answer: Professor Chomsky, the U.S. Ambassador to the U.N., Samantha Power, has said that the problem is the “instability that Iran fuels beyond its nuclear programme”. She echoed U.S. Defence Secretary Ashton Carter, who went to Israel’s northern border and said, “We will continue to help Israel counter Iran’s malign influence” by supporting Hizbollah. The U.S., he intimated, reserved the right to use military force against Iran. Could you comment on this? NC: Power’s usage is standard: she defines “stabilisation” according to a peculiar logic. For instance, U.S. policy in Iraq is defined as stabilisation. What does that stabilisation look like? The U.S. invades a country, with hundreds of thousands killed and millions becoming refugees, along with barbarous torture and destruction that Iraqis compare to the Mongol invasions, leaving Iraq the unhappiest country in the world according to WIN/Gallup polls. It also ignited sectarian conflict that is tearing the region to shreds and laying the basis for the ISIS [Islamic State of Iraq and Syria] monstrosity along with its Saudi ally. That is stabilisation. The standard usage sometimes reaches levels that are almost surreal, as when liberal commentator James Chace, former editor of Foreign Affairs, explains that the U.S. sought to “destabilise a freely elected Marxist government in Chile” because “we were determined to seek stability” [under the Pinochet dictatorship]. Let us consider the case of Hizbollah and Hamas. Both emerged in resistance to U.S.-backed Israeli violence and aggression, which vastly exceeds anything attributed to these organisations. Whatever one thinks about them, or other beneficiaries of Iranian support, Iran hardly ranks high in support for terror worldwide, even within the Muslim world. Among Islamic states, Saudi Arabia is far in the lead as a sponsor of Islamic terror, not only by direct funding by wealthy Saudis and others in the Gulf but even more by the missionary zeal with which the Saudis promulgate their extremist Wahhabi-Salafi version of Islam through Quranic schools, mosques, clerics, and other means available to a religious dictatorship with enormous oil wealth. The ISIS is an extremist offshoot of Saudi religious extremism and its fanning of jehadi flames. In generation of Islamic terror, however, nothing can compare with the U.S. “war on terror”, which has helped to spread the plague from a small tribal area in Afghanistan-Pakistan to a vast region from West Africa to South-East Asia. The invasion of Iraq alone escalated terror attacks by a factor of seven in the first year, well beyond even what had been predicted by intelligence agencies. Drone warfare against marginalised and oppressed tribal societies also elicits demands for revenge, as ample evidence indicates. The two Iranian clients [Hizbollah and Hamas] also share the crime of winning the popular vote in the only free elections held in the Arab world. Hizbollah is guilty of the even more heinous crime of compelling Israel to withdraw from its occupation of southern Lebanon in violation of [U.N.] Security Council orders dating back decades, an illegal regime of terror punctuated with episodes of extreme violence, murder and destruction. Iran’s “fuelling instability” is particularly dramatic in Iraq, where, among other crimes, it alone came at once to the aid of Kurds defending themselves from the ISIS invasion and it is building a $2.5 billion power plant to try to bring electrical power back to the level before the U.S. invasion.
Similar to the CP article: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_X5czMVKT8 On 27/09/2015 12:22 PM, Zenaan Harkness wrote:
Rogue States and Diplomacy: a Conversation With Noam Chomsky http://www.counterpunch.org/2015/09/17/rogue-states-and-diplomacy-a-conversa...
On Sat, 26 Sep 2015 19:22:50 -0700, Zenaan Harkness <zen@freedbms.net> wrote:
has said that the problem is the “instability that Iran fuels beyond its nuclear programme”.
This is just code for saying "Iran operates a state owned central bank instead of one that is controlled by the global banking cartel, thus is fuels 'instability'"
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 09/27/2015 11:43 AM, Georgi Guninski wrote:
On Sun, Sep 27, 2015 at 02:22:50AM +0000, Zenaan Harkness wrote:
Professor Chomsky, the U.S. Ambassador to the U.N., Samantha Power,
This stopped me from trying to interpret the rest of the shit rationally...
U.S. Ambassador to the U.N., Samantha Power, has said that the problem is the “instability that Iran fuels beyond its nuclear programme”.
A while back I was reading a training doc for intelligence analysts that used Iran in one of its examples. Per this text, Iran is believed to be working to prevent a U.S. invasion by doing whatever it can to keep U.S. forces busy elsewhere in its neighborhood, drawing down U.S. manpower and material resources and denying the U.S. safe access to staging areas, well controlled rear areas and flanks, etc. So... if successful, Iran's nuclear weapons program would render their present defence strategy obsolete, presumably closing out their sponsorship of "destabilizing" forces in the region. If Iran gets The Bomb, U.S. sponsored "stabilization" elsewhere in Iran's neighborhood would most likely get a big boost. It's a win/win proposition for the U.S. and Iran, unless of course the U.S. National Interest requires the annexation of Iran - which it does, as Iran sits right in the middle of the future U.S. Protectorate of Pipelineistan. Taking in the larger picture, I would agree with General Turgidson that we can not allow a mineshaft gap. :o/ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1 iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJWCBqQAAoJEDZ0Gg87KR0LUkYP/01ySBbnbhgDkWTdQ5hfzHLB 9LJUmR6a8UREtD/Y9l6RaWa6MYfKmtQPjtsujVYszgBrlTWyV9vGBw4O2sFsqzWF RS7w6W/kEhtRC+9vHXy7vLKwEH5+qH0s89SNOGKYKIwxLHhKAW0t5fPQsH0fxnFS CvVVqY24y+qI6ZspFalb3HYJK4+BQNyu0ev4fWziBq2+d9kpdPvsNnOtttwdXB45 eGxGS9jpzcJCILub083YpI2eUxca/2PbwCkKpgXXsf3jMq0W05bk9BNJRC8G+A4N pm8/wkthZy7onk3EdpoIhN2RAWZ4dgFlMySszLoKMmktoopWoC56MlYMcrLX68bs 9YfOIV1r3Vl4Btz0zsvp8VGnGhL7aDpNU5TPwwFGDkBWH0ZL5VB94Lxv+WGDFPf2 2DqMgvoudYt+5jqUwPDRcBeHPCvHITSAANmXrJa19sXpgJIcJEbtXoeuZgYEL1Wx gjH7qc2dQegXbilWZ6XZBnSp+ymhZCCgvNu6n2el64BMdkFuCzUrzEV3AKpFIqWc SNVfqj+obTl+tt3DSpg1ZQvJ/+PNr6wrgx86YQdsKIWhB2A8fgdJbMP3Bqm5quky l6ugyxIfEFtKeKIR289xeAAQJ/U6/JwQy1gz8Pr6k5Oe5///hKdAC4xqpMMdw4Au 7tX7sNy70BZs0bos+JZ7 =tqj4 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
Dnia niedziela, 27 września 2015 12:34:26 Steve Kinney pisze:
Iran sits right in the middle of the future U.S. Protectorate of Pipelineistan.
Taking in the larger picture, I would agree with General Turgidson that we can not allow a mineshaft gap.
10/10, would laugh again. :) -- Pozdrawiam, Michał "rysiek" Woźniak Zmieniam klucz GPG :: http://rys.io/pl/147 GPG Key Transition :: http://rys.io/en/147
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