Methods of Exercising Control over the Direction of Discourse
The Gentleman's Guide To Forum Spies is no doubt disinformation. It is seemingly complete, as if to extinguish further analysis on the subject. But it seems to exclude methods which cannot be noticed, and seems to play to the fears of the paranoid. No doubt the psychologist who prepared the document is a threat to humanity itself and ought to be subject to summary execution. Afterall, a lack of interest in a topic should not be confused with forum sliding. Naturally if one is to bring up forum sliding in a forum, one would be dismissed as a troll and banned, perhaps rightly so. Through methods pioneered by Freud, I believe I have uncovered the methods in which the elites manipulate and stifle discussion to benefit their own interests. It is important to troll undesirable activists. It creates a low-grade trauma (which may increase social withdrawal and increased sensitivity to threats), makes them distrust certain common aspects of the trolls (through mental association), and wastes their time. It is also important to shift the internal Overton window of a group. While greater society has an Overton window over certain subjects, it's subcultures too have Overton windows. You don't see libertarians talk too much about nationalization now, do you? For conspiracy theorists, it is important to make it very difficult for new people to accept any conspiracy theory. Afterall, there's no clear line as to how the idea that the elites are conspiring is all that different then all the elites are lizard people (well, maybe have lizard brains, but that's different). Thus one must shift the direction of discussion to that of which is absurd so that additional individuals are unlikely to do anything more than outright dismiss the theories. Upon watching a propaganda video by North Korea targeted toward the conspiracy theorist members of the English-speaking population ( https://youtu.be/WEGMJE6I_Q4?t=28s ), it is evident that the video is targeting individuals with heightened responses to threats. It talks more about dangers without focusing on the logic of those dangers or alternative explanations. It's possible the video did not come from North Korea, but to make consumerist culture seem to exist by design, when it is quite likely it will exist anyway but could be promoted to serve the ends of the elites. These are self-serving individuals who are very good at what they do.
On 1/29/16, Ryan Carboni <ryacko@gmail.com> wrote:
... It is important to troll undesirable activists. It creates a low-grade trauma (which may increase social withdrawal and increased sensitivity to threats), makes them distrust certain common aspects of the trolls (through mental association), and wastes their time.
esoteric satire subtly applied to test trollishness, underlying undercurrent of deceit or goodwill; decentralization demands a self sufficient node! ... long past time to cull the wheat and chaff, dear earth humans. :P
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 01/31/2016 06:03 AM, coderman wrote:
On 1/29/16, Ryan Carboni <ryacko@gmail.com> wrote:
... It is important to troll undesirable activists. It creates a low-grade trauma (which may increase social withdrawal and increased sensitivity to threats), makes them distrust certain common aspects of the trolls (through mental association), and wastes their time.
esoteric satire subtly applied to test trollishness, underlying undercurrent of deceit or goodwill; decentralization demands a self sufficient node!
The controversial post that started this discussion directly quotes the key messaging of current campaigns for the restraint of speech and enforcement of racial and gender quotas, especially targeting college campuses - now also targeting collaborative software development projects, their mailing lists and even CPunks. Does this phenomenon represent spontaneous demands for justice arising from the awakening social conscience of Amerika's best and brightest, or a black propaganda campaign working to drive wedges between dissident factions and demographics? I do not think it matters. I think the functional consequences of that campaign and the response it elicits do matter. Crypto-Anarchy has an inherent agenda of enabling populist political resistance, organization and uprisings. To whatever extent this agenda could find applications in real life, it merits hostile attention from State sponsored actors. Depicting the CPunk and Hacker communities as gangs of racist misogynists, and prodding them in ways designed to provoke open mockery of any such concerns, makes strategic sense in this context. It always pays to outclass the opposition, in word /and/ deed. Trolls, Buffoons and Lunaticks have their uses and some get paid; but they have no staying power and eventually land on the rubbish heap. It is said that a wise person may choose to act like a fool, but that a fool can not choose to act like a wise person. Let the great sorting begin... or, heh heh, stop it if you can. :o) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1 iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJWrgUWAAoJEDZ0Gg87KR0L5mkQAKpc4g9Lemf/DU94Qldtry5s Wejgvq5l3qR89j8l2Zm13Nmc/zc6X5ulNHyZE9aEYi5xTQAiPZQtakWSrbyyUeMp i9my6eXT4tplUR5Y33iLRvsc0w2Txu5zvLLgXWZyBpspQmTlpm8dlKq8i26W27XB yPVnOjGvT7ALcu3krGQgaT9QZT3ToGcRJzW+ugQb/SxS1G9MBXfZuAdwtNKkE4bM ZT9fM8+z2vJ7GH8KKKM57gIDCJx9K7omf0Oo2ERGMOh+KN14l8pyCk8uuVDCZY5i dgQ2vAkzkTBWTdKwCNtovI6aC2MnfhFba3QVvufbALOlkGKMH6ZysMYN/qSnjWKM SBatqigQ2lVT5uflHEFinZ5jn0Jtiavkyf3azMRYx1tFdAhcEhpKnk/+937eCeCF WdNMvGKm15/DBvIgAeKViZoJxE+vMhKM6ZGqQ+dnZa8ZTm1/3Sq+TwqSSIKAbXRq StEOJZkdxnvqRKbCjFwlna51758yMhOKnyL+M/XBDb0rOsILzdEHrvEAgkKVJ2U7 W6PaSBTg2jZebvL5/hUYSa0I2VGGuF+f1Q/JO5xyiMFiX1KAIj/3aX/gjVPhlpmq KNpL8cEs5QByv/4aDQh9MKr0qLMoLXRM8YaP2PyRAakMK17ZBXMkt6XZVn/FdAgd 65cn2ETG6yqNuwvwK3nV =3l9U -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
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