On Wed, Dec 20, 2017 at 2:03 PM, John Levine <johnl@iecc.com> wrote:

Right, and then ask him if he uses that private coin to buy a dishwasher and it doesn't work, should he be able to get his money back.

He was party to negotiating terms of sale, acceptance of same and the goods. Both parties get exactly what they agreed to. Should people be able to buy 65" TV and chargeback return them after that stupid game known as the SuperBowl? Nice try.

Or (obCrypto) "should the messages on your phone be safe from government snooping?" vs. "should terrorists and drug dealers be allowed to hide behind cryptography?"

Yes, obviously this must happen, because you know damn well strong crypto with backdoors in it that smells like swiss cheese is nothing but snakeoil to which your bank account, contracts, personal emails, and more will all fall. And strong crypto is needed for so many fine things. Crypto is just a shovel, it doesn't have to answer twisted questions like this. Plow snow or whack someone with it. Nice try though.

And for payments, what they do is to use plastic. [Swedish don't use cash]

As before, you and the Swedes all got scammed, worse yet, you agreed to it, probably while watching the SuperBowl drunk on beer, how stupid was that... lol, suckers. Adopt cryptocurrency and scam them back.