Hello, I have updated iso-images and added more information and screenshots. from the feedback of previous post. This is a new multi crypto currency platform I've developed from scratch for the past ~3 years, it is run on raspberry pi. I am looking for more testers and/or expert opinion. Happy to answer questions. Please have a look at: http://otheravu4v6pitvw.onion/ Thank you. Other Arkitech Sent with [ProtonMail](https://protonmail.com) Secure Email.
On Fri, 06 Dec 2019 15:32:48 +0000 "other.arkitech" <other.arkitech@protonmail.com> wrote:
Please have a look at: http://otheravu4v6pitvw.onion/
"It implements anonymous taxation ' lolwut
On Fri, 06 Dec 2019 15:32:48 +0000 "other.arkitech" other.arkitech@protonmail.com wrote:
Please have a look at: http://otheravu4v6pitvw.onion/
"It implements anonymous taxation '
lolwut
yeah, perhaps this should be explained more : ) So this crypto was ideated from the beginning to automate the pipeline tax -> public budgets, that's what I mean with 'anonymous taxation'. So all accounts experiment a decay on gas (the crypto that powers the public system) which is used to feed the public budgets pipeline, which are public algorithms (smart contracts in ethereum language). The typical reaction to this is nah, you choose tax or anonymity, not both. Well, that's it, it can be done.
‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ On Friday, December 6, 2019 8:01 PM, other.arkitech <other.arkitech@protonmail.com> wrote: ...
The typical reaction to this is nah, you choose tax or anonymity, not both. Well, that's it, it can be done.
1.) they all missed the first question: what's your threat model? "anonymity" has been used to describe a transparent web proxy and a datagram overlay protocol, and everything in between. 2.) "It is straight forward to move on from secp256k1 to other" this is actually not trivial! downgrade attacks are a real threat vector, seamless key migration technically challenging, deprecating legacy cipher suites in decentralized systems a significant challenge... 3.) " The system is locked to work over IPv4 exclusively for one reason. Scarcity. IPv4 i used to control the number of nodes behind an address and thus control sibyl attack. This is the only anonymity-issue I have AFAIK and dont really know how solve with IPv6 or onion." thoughts: - exposing IPv4 betrays anonymity (without additional protections) - IPv4 addresses are a very poor sybil defense. - IPv6 ORCHID addresses (non-routable virtual addrs) via Tor overlay would be a significant improvement! E.g. https://www.onioncat.org/ - "This is the only anonymity issue" is not reassuring when this issue is a fatal flaw! Also, "Q: anonymous taxation? lolwut" - hah ref: http://otheravu4v6pitvw.onion/downloads/misc/answers_to_questions.txt best regards,
‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ On Friday, December 6, 2019 10:13 PM, coderman <coderman@protonmail.com> wrote:
‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ On Friday, December 6, 2019 8:01 PM, other.arkitech other.arkitech@protonmail.com wrote: ...
The typical reaction to this is nah, you choose tax or anonymity, not both. Well, that's it, it can be done.
1.) they all missed the first question: what's your threat model?
Not sure how to answer this related to the question "tax+anonymity" Would you rephrase the question please?
"anonymity" has been used to describe a transparent web proxy and a datagram overlay protocol, and everything in between.
I'd describe anonymity as private identity. For the moment I consider that exposing ip address of nodes is reasonably good approximation to anonymity.
2.) "It is straight forward to move on from secp256k1 to other"
this is actually not trivial! downgrade attacks are a real threat vector, seamless key migration technically challenging, deprecating legacy cipher suites in decentralized systems a significant challenge...
Unlike bitcoin, this system does not store any data related to cryptography like signatures. The system can evolve with the time, since cryptographic functions are only used for validation, and then transactions are destroyed, not stored like bitcoin does. An hypothetical upgrade from secp256k1 to ?? would happen instantly and the old library would not be used for anything like e.g. in bitcoin to validate all blocks since 10 years ago.
3.) " The system is locked to work over IPv4 exclusively for one reason. Scarcity. IPv4 i used to control the number of nodes behind an address and thus control sibyl attack. This is the only anonymity-issue I have AFAIK and dont really know how solve with IPv6 or onion."
thoughts:
- exposing IPv4 betrays anonymity (without additional protections)
A temporary tradeoff, IP4 are needed here as part of a sybil attack protection.
- IPv4 addresses are a very poor sybil defense.
The ability to allow a maximum of say 6 nodes per IP4 gives, according to my perception, a good defense thanks to the scarcity and price of IP4, which is stronger as the network size grows.
- IPv6 ORCHID addresses (non-routable virtual addrs) via Tor overlay would be a significant improvement! E.g. https://www.onioncat.org/
I'll double or triple check that these technologies guarantee the scarcity of addresses, i.e. The property of IP4 I am exploiting is: the number of nodes behind an address can be known and used to deny participation of further nodes behing the same address.
- "This is the only anonymity issue" is not reassuring when this issue is a fatal flaw!
In paranoid anonymity purism it can be considered severe. I agree. And I work my brains to see how can I hide it without opening the possibility of a sybil attack. In real world we have Bitcoin with majority of nodes in clear IP address, we have visa cards and people taking risks just because everybody does, kind of you get obfuscated among the rest. My way forward is to discover how to hide IP4 addresses without losing the capability of knowing when 2 nodes are behind the same IP4 address is welcome. Any help is welcome.
Also, "Q: anonymous taxation? lolwut" - hah
It looks like this pair of words cause sensation : )
ref: http://otheravu4v6pitvw.onion/downloads/misc/answers_to_questions.txt
best regards,
Thanks for your views. Other Arkitech
On Fri, 06 Dec 2019 20:01:56 +0000 "other.arkitech" <other.arkitech@protonmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, 06 Dec 2019 15:32:48 +0000 "other.arkitech" other.arkitech@protonmail.com wrote:
Please have a look at: http://otheravu4v6pitvw.onion/
"It implements anonymous taxation '
lolwut
yeah, perhaps this should be explained more : ) So this crypto was ideated from the beginning to automate the pipeline tax -> public budgets,
out of curiosity, why do you think people on this list, who are supposed to be crypto anarchists(or close) would be interested in 'automating' taxation(aka theft) and 'public budgets' (distribution of stolen goods)?
that's what I mean with 'anonymous taxation'. So all accounts experiment a decay on gas (the crypto that powers the public system) which is used to feed the public budgets pipeline, which are public algorithms (smart contracts in ethereum language).
The typical reaction to this is nah, you choose tax or anonymity, not both. Well, that's it, it can be done.
why would people choose taxation/theft? Also, you should have at least some sort of document explaining what the hell your system is, although I personally don't give a damn about yet another ethereum shitcoin with 'built-in taxation'(TM)
Hey other arkitech wat up buddy -------- Original Message -------- On Dec 6, 2019, 7:32 AM, other.arkitech wrote:
Hello, I have updated iso-images and added more information and screenshots. from the feedback of previous post. This is a new multi crypto currency platform I've developed from scratch for the past ~3 years, it is run on raspberry pi. I am looking for more testers and/or expert opinion. Happy to answer questions.
Please have a look at: http://otheravu4v6pitvw.onion/
Thank you. Other Arkitech
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