Re: DEF CON 19 - hackers get hacked!
On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 4:14 AM, coderman <coderman@gmail.com> wrote:
... seriously EOM this time.
well, what do you know, sunlight prevails! ;) http://electrospaces.blogspot.com/2013/11/drtbox-and-drt-surveillance-system... ... this is but a feeling; one aspect of the whole.[0] 0. "Blind men and an elephant" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blind_men_and_an_elephant
coderman wrote:
well, what do you know, sunlight prevails! ;)
I'm going to go on record stating that this could, in fact, use more context and *might not* be suitable for a one-off post presented with no background. On the other hand, I learned that the Full Disclosure list is still active, and that delights me for reasons not fully clear. ~Griffin -- Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle. PGP: 0xD9D4CADEE3B67E7AB2C05717E331FD29AE792C97 OTR: saint@jabber.ccc.de
Dnia czwartek, 28 listopada 2013 01:14:49 Griffin Boyce pisze:
coderman wrote:
well, what do you know, sunlight prevails! ;)
I'm going to go on record stating that this could, in fact, use more context and *might not* be suitable for a one-off post presented with no background.
On the other hand, I learned that the Full Disclosure list is still active, and that delights me for reasons not fully clear.
So could we have the context now, please? :) -- Pozdr rysiek
On Thu, Nov 28, 2013 at 8:14 AM, rysiek <rysiek@hackerspace.pl> wrote:
... So could we have the context now, please? :)
timeline: - 04/Aug/2011 DEF CON 19 begins! LulzSec, Anonymous, many other lower profile independent security enthusiasts and hacktivists (read: FBI and $TLA targets of interest) in attendance. presumably the large numbers of foreign attendees, the "exigent circumstances", and whatever other fig leaf legal justifications were applied, allowed the following events to occur on US soil against US citizens without warrants. - 05/Aug/2011 08:00 AM-midnight-+2hrs, 06/Aug/2011 08:00 AM-midnight-+2hrs, 07/Aug/2011 08:00 AM-midnight, 08/Aug/2011 08:00 AM-noon, DEF CON 19 hackers targeted en masse via active MitM on 2.5G/3G/4G bands. traditionally WiFi most hostile, this marked a distinct change in threat landscape at the conference. custom exploit automation and ex-filtration via DRT tech at high power levels on site. the MitM position was specifically leveraged for secondary attacks against vulnerable applications, update mechanisms, communications, and core OS functionality spanning PC and mobile systems. - 10/Aug/2011 attacks disclosed on full-disclosure list; we had been running custom ROMs and SDR kit through the conference, in addition to "performance analysis" on the MitM exploit system (spoiler alert: it was trivial to DoS via spoofed network endpoints and leases leading for "fork bomb" effect of exploit threads launched to service attacks against newly joining client on the network. among other weaknesses :) - 24/Jul/2012 coderman arrives in Las Vegas for DEF CON 20, clear view of Alexander's military transport on the tarmac. immediately upon landing all exceptionally hardened mobile test devices pwned via baseband attacks while in airplane mode. SDR and power monitoring gear confirms exploitation and ex-filtration. this was just the first in a series of impression baseband and sensor level attacks. coderman never hacked so hard nor so thoroughly before; proper fucked. (months and months of effort at Android kernel, system, and application level hardening for naught) - Jun+Jul+Aug+Sep+Oct+Nov/2013 the year of discontent, details emerge on $TLA offensive operations against domestic targets, the role of third party contractors and infosec industry collaborators in same. singular events once considered anomalies or inscrutable now viewed in the overall framework of understanding around pervasive in-security and offensive operations as national security imperative. ... which leaves us where we are now: with networks, systems, and software unable to defend against many of the attacks now unambiguously and entirely clear to the public at large. the ending to this tale yet to be determined! [choose your own adventure *grin*]
On Fri, Nov 29, 2013 at 5:30 PM, coderman <coderman@gmail.com> wrote:
... - 24/Jul/2012 ... DEF CON 20
clarification: DC20 was not DRT equipment; they were "in the towers" for DC20, and focused primarily on baseband attacks. over 14 different tower facilities linked to active attacks covering miles around the Rio.
I would be interested to see the details of the exploits you witnessed/were subject to (especially since I was at DC20). How exactly did you determine how the exploits occurred, and who was responsible for them? How are you certain the DC19 attacks utilized DRT tech? On 11/29/2013 09:42 PM, coderman wrote:
On Fri, Nov 29, 2013 at 5:30 PM, coderman <coderman@gmail.com> wrote:
... - 24/Jul/2012 ... DEF CON 20
clarification: DC20 was not DRT equipment; they were "in the towers" for DC20, and focused primarily on baseband attacks. over 14 different tower facilities linked to active attacks covering miles around the Rio.
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