On Tue, 18 Oct 2016 19:29:46 -0200 Cecilia Tanaka wrote:

On Oct 18, 2016 6:16 PM, "juan" wrote:

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And if you are challenged, then it's all 'subjective'? Please.

"Challenged"? "Me"? For "you"? Hahahaha!!! ;D

What do you mean "for you"? Perhaps you meant "by you"?

Really was needing to laugh today, hahaha!!! Wow, my mood is much better now! Thanks, Juan!!! :D :D :D

And what are you laughing at? Anybody with half a brain can challenge newspaper propaganda... Bottom line : you 'believe' in the psychiatric mafia - That's actually no joke...

On Oct 18, 2016 7:15 PM, "Cecilia Tanaka" wrote:

It isn't cowardy, my love, it's pneumonia. What will save my lungs, my

life, is the Science, the Medicine, not political discussions. :) It wasn't a polite excuse, Juan. My pneumonia is worst now, after spending a raining night out, listening a friend who was dumped and needed to put the feelings out to avoid making some shit. The last night was very long and sad, dear. For a coincidence (or not), the Chinese Medicine says that the sadness attacks the lungs.

On Tue, 18 Oct 2016 19:41:31 -0400 John Newman wrote:

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On Oct 18, 2016, at 5:48 PM, juan wrote:

On Tue, 18 Oct 2016 19:29:46 -0200 Cecilia Tanaka wrote:

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On Oct 18, 2016 6:16 PM, "juan" wrote:

And if you are challenged, then it's all 'subjective'? Please.

"Challenged"? "Me"? For "you"? Hahahaha!!! ;D

What do you mean "for you"? Perhaps you meant "by you"?

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Really was needing to laugh today, hahaha!!! Wow, my mood is much better now! Thanks, Juan!!! :D :D :D

And what are you laughing at? Anybody with half a brain can challenge newspaper propaganda...

Bottom line : you 'believe' in the psychiatric mafia - That's actually no joke...

Do you actually know anything about the autistic spectrum? I ask because my former girlfriends job was working with disabled children. She regularly worked with girls in their teens who couldn't even speak, not a single word. They were SEVERELY cognitively impaired. Their diagnosis was autism, nothing more.

Surely children are over prescribed medication in the rather fucked up world we live in, but you don't know what the fuck you're talking about.

I'm done with you john, but thanks for completing your fucked up 'profile'. Not only a pro censorship piece of shit, you are also a pro psychiatric mafia piece of shit. lol...in a sad way.

As with your claim that global warming is a hoax.

Do you also think evolution is a 'hoax'?

Are you also a holocaust denier like your friend Zen?

John

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On Tue, 18 Oct 2016 20:01:22 -0400 John Newman wrote:

Christ,

lol...

you're a childish moron. Or, in your parlance, a retard. You literally do not know what the fuck you're talking about.

How does it feel to be a pro censorship piece of shit and now psychobabbler nazi to boot? Not a nice feeling I guess eh? Don't worry, take a couple of pounds of ritalin and go lick some boots at your beloved 'crypto' list.

But I guess you like it that way.

John

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On 10/18/2016 06:22 PM, John Newman wrote:

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On Oct 18, 2016, at 8:18 PM, juan wrote:

On Tue, 18 Oct 2016 20:01:22 -0400 John Newman wrote:

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Christ,

lol...

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you're a childish moron. Or, in your parlance, a retard. You literally do not know what the fuck you're talking about.

How does it feel to be a pro censorship piece of shit and now psychobabbler nazi to boot? Not a nice feeling I guess eh?

Don't worry, take a couple of pounds of ritalin and go lick some boots at your beloved 'crypto' list.

No man, I feel just fine. I'm neither pro censor ship, nor any kind of nazi.

Keep clapping yourself on the back for your own ignorance. It's an impressive show :)

I guess. But damn, it gets old after a while ;)

John

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But I guess you like it that way

John

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On Tue, 18 Oct 2016 20:22:26 -0400 John Newman wrote:

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On Oct 18, 2016, at 8:18 PM, juan wrote:

On Tue, 18 Oct 2016 20:01:22 -0400 John Newman wrote:

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Christ,

lol...

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you're a childish moron. Or, in your parlance, a retard. You literally do not know what the fuck you're talking about.

How does it feel to be a pro censorship piece of shit and now psychobabbler nazi to boot? Not a nice feeling I guess eh?

Don't worry, take a couple of pounds of ritalin and go lick some boots at your beloved 'crypto' list.

No man, I feel just fine. I'm neither pro censor ship, nor any kind of nazi.

Sure, your gallant defense of 'moderation' has nothing to do with censorship. Like I told your americunt comrade quinn : why don't you at least have a shred of intellectual honesty? You want to be a censor, fine. But at least do it openly, scumbag. Same thing regarding your support for psychiatric 'science'. Hey, aren't you a mentally ill drug addict? Some of posts in the list would suggest as much....

Keep clapping yourself on the back for your own ignorance.

Well, at least I'm not a snob like you who is more ignorant than me while believing he's a 'scientific'...what? Truther?

It's an impressive show :)

Better than yours at least.

John

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But I guess you like it that way

John

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On Oct 18, 2016 8:41 PM, "John Newman" wrote:

Do you actually know anything about the autistic spectrum? I ask because

my former girlfriends job was working with disabled children. She regularly worked with girls in their teens who couldn't even speak, not a single word. They were SEVERELY cognitively impaired. Their diagnosis was autism, nothing more. John, I won't have patience now for searching the correct thread on the cpunks list, but Juan had a long and very, very exhaustive discussion about autistic children with Xorcist few weeks ago. Xorcist has an autistic niece, who loves a lot and considers like a daughter, and makes voluntary work with disabled children too. He told some stories about his convivence with her, his attempts of stimulate her senses, her intelligence, and about her difficulties to understand the world and the people. It was beautiful because he was talking about love. True love. I usually try to use music as stimulus for all ages, in all situations. Music is life, and all the words have sounds, and these sounds are music too. I think Xorcist would like to exchange some ideas with your girlfriend about what he can do for his loved niece and all the other kids that he is helping. He has a tender heart and is a very old cpunk. I will tell you a secret: - when Juan is not being annoying and aggressive, he is a very dear person, but extremely hard headed. He has a head so, so hard that I can break coconuts using it and he won't change his ideas. :P He certainly would help me to make voluntary work with disabled children just to prove me how much I am very, very wrong, hihi! In some moments, I want to kick his balls, but I like him! :)

On Oct 18, 2016 10:30 PM, "juan" wrote:

For completeness' sake. You are even more 'hard headed' than I

am, and your positions are standard establishment positions that you can't even start to defend. Yes, I am muuuuch more hard headed than you. I never said I was not, hihi... ;)

So what's the point of calling me hard headed?

Oh, it annoys you, so it's very fun for me! :)

As to being aggressive, ask your google friends and the pentagon

what that means. I don't have Pentagon friends, but it would be fun. It would be a very bizarre situation, more or less like to be completely in love with the dumbest man in the whole world. You really appreciate this guy a lot, love him very much, but don't have courage enough to present him to your family and friends, because feel ashamed of his stupidity, hihi... ;) I probably would present my Pentagon friends as strippers, go-go boys and prostitutes, because they would be more well accepted among my friends, hahaha!!! ;D

Why on earth would I change my ideas to Standard Garbage? You

would be burning witches in the dark ages, you are 'curing' 'autistic' children now. Why should I subscribe to your ignorant savagery, nowadays rebranded as Holy Science? Sweetie, I would be burned instead burning. :) Well, my 'ignorant savagery' and I will try to rest a bit, my dear. Good night kisses, take care! :* - c.

Aff............. -------- Original Message -------- On Oct 18, 2016, 10:17 PM, Александр wrote: 2016-10-19 2:41 GMT+03:00 John Newman : Are you also a holocaust denier like your friend Zen? Oh, johny, johny... poor johny... you fought Juan and you totally lost, so now you came back to bite Zen.... you hate Zenaan and the Truth he spreads so much that you must bite him again and again and again. But the problem is - YOU ARE A SLANDERER, johny! A fucken SLANDERER! For the record - Zen has NEVER denied the holocaust, you cock sucker. NEVER! He published ONE political-historical essay that discussed about A LOT of things and .... that was published on some holocaust denier site.. and TA-DAM... johny new-man (dick-man) took it as the ONLY and the MAJOR hook he's got on Zen and now he bites him with it every Monday and Saturday. You piece of stupid scum, johny. And whenever i see your post/someone qoutes you, i get a vomit reflex, because i know it's gonna be super stupid or super ugly (the same refers to Tanaka's posts, by the way). So i repeat my reply to one of your attacks on Zen: SHUT THE FUCK UP and leave this Great Human Being with the name "Zenaan". (◣◢)┌∩┐

On Oct 19, 2016 2:18 AM, "Александр" wrote:

<SNIP> johny new-man (dick-man) took it as the ONLY and the MAJOR hook

he's got on Zen and now he bites him with it every Monday and Saturday. John, do you "bite" Zenaan only at Mondays and Saturdays? Do you want to take turns? So you can rest and choose better days for you, hahaha!!! ;D Please, talking seriously, bite your girlfriend or more interesting persons. Zen sent me some pics of him in private and I prefer to bury my face in an ice cream pot, instead his lap, hahaha!!! You know, I like men and it is not exactly the case... Too much Vegemite! :)

And whenever i see your post/someone qoutes you, i get a vomit reflex, because i know it's gonna be super stupid or super ugly (the same refers to Tanaka's posts, by the way).

Hey, it's good! Thanks, Alex! I love when people calls me "Tanaka"! It's my surname and I absolutely love it. My family's legacy for me, my heritage, my origins, my blood. In Japanese, we always say the blood is stronger (denser) than the water. <3 Your friend Zen saw "artistic beauty" when a nuclear bomb killed great part of Tanaka family, who still lived in Hiroshima. Part of my family heritage are deaths and ashes, because disgusting people like Zen, like you, Alex, and Putin, and his North Korean dearest friend, Kim Jong-un, think it is "beautiful" to menace countries and to destroy cities and lives. I prefer music and poetry, but psichopaths see beauty in massacres, in censorship, in menace people with all kind of arms, including the nuclear ones...

So i repeat my reply to one of your attacks on Zen: SHUT THE FUCK UP and leave this Great Human Being with the name "Zenaan". (◣◢)┌∩┐

Err... Sorry, Alex, considering the received pics, I think it will be much better for you stay flirting with Putin. Zen definitely does _not_ seem a "Great Human Being" in any sense and he is sooo boring... Putin, at least, is beautiful and likes sex, even being a political corrupt monster... Keep licking him instead annoy the list. It'll be a better way of "serving your country", hihi! ;) Hmm... Your middle fingers have boners too, Alex. Interesting. It happens a lot on this list. I never will be a patent troll, but it would be hilarious to announce the patented "CypherPunk Viagra for Fingers", an useful method for satisfying your lover! The merchandising could be "Because fingers make much more than typing!" :D Here in Brazil, the men say "Enquanto eu tiver língua e dedo, mulher nenhuma me mete medo!", in a sexual reference to use very well tongue and fingers when "the little pony doesn't want to ride", hahaha!!! ;D The bad translation would be something, more or less, like "While I have tongue and fingers, no woman will scare me!" (will be not satisfied). :) Pneumonias are boring. Still feeling bad, really sick, but life is fun. I want to live, be happy and kick some asses before leaving forever. :) Lovely days and nights for all of you. Tender wishes of joy and inner peace. And laugh! :D Tanaka <3

On Oct 19, 2016 2:51 PM, "juan" wrote:

On Wed, 19 Oct 2016 08:23:36 -0200 Cecilia Tanaka wrote:

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Your friend Zen saw "artistic beauty" when a nuclear bomb killed great part of Tanaka family, who still lived in Hiroshima. ]

Do you mind providing the source for that claim?

Don't be lazy, Juan. Search it on the list. He wrote it months ago. He was very explicit and shocked me a lot. It was sick and disgusting. And, of course, he didn't ask pardon when I left that thread, feeling really angry. -- "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it."

On Wed, 19 Oct 2016 08:23:36 -0200 Cecilia Tanaka wrote:

Your friend Zen saw "artistic beauty" when a nuclear bomb killed great part of Tanaka family, who still lived in Hiroshima.

So I did your homework and here's the message : https://lists.cpunks.org/pipermail/cypherpunks/2016-July/029345.html 1) there's no mention of hiroshima 2) you misread what he was saying about how destroying a city would be a "beautiful thing" - For starters he put the words inside "" which is an obvious hint that they may be intended as irony. As far as I can tell he was following your inconsistent line of reasoning and your defense of organized fraud ('religion') and the US, and trying to show you how any bad thing could be seen as 'good' or as having 'artistic value'...according to your own 'logic' (or lack of it)

Part of my family heritage are deaths and ashes, because disgusting people like Zen, like you, Alex, and Putin, and his North Korean dearest friend, Kim Jong-un, think it is "beautiful" to menace countries and to destroy cities and lives. I prefer music and poetry, but psichopaths see beauty in massacres, in censorship, in menace people with all kind of arms, including the nuclear ones...

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So i repeat my reply to one of your attacks on Zen: SHUT THE FUCK UP and leave this Great Human Being with the name "Zenaan". (◣◢)┌∩┐

Err... Sorry, Alex, considering the received pics, I think it will be much better for you stay flirting with Putin. Zen definitely does _not_ seem a "Great Human Being" in any sense and he is sooo boring... Putin, at least, is beautiful and likes sex, even being a political corrupt monster... Keep licking him instead annoy the list. It'll be a better way of "serving your country", hihi! ;)

Hmm... Your middle fingers have boners too, Alex. Interesting. It happens a lot on this list. I never will be a patent troll, but it would be hilarious to announce the patented "CypherPunk Viagra for Fingers", an useful method for satisfying your lover! The merchandising could be "Because fingers make much more than typing!" :D

Here in Brazil, the men say "Enquanto eu tiver língua e dedo, mulher nenhuma me mete medo!", in a sexual reference to use very well tongue and fingers when "the little pony doesn't want to ride", hahaha!!! ;D

The bad translation would be something, more or less, like "While I have tongue and fingers, no woman will scare me!" (will be not satisfied). :)

Pneumonias are boring. Still feeling bad, really sick, but life is fun. I want to live, be happy and kick some asses before leaving forever. :)

Lovely days and nights for all of you. Tender wishes of joy and inner peace. And laugh! :D

Tanaka <3

On Oct 19, 2016 12:16 PM, "Razer" wrote:

Fuck "Israel" ┌∩┐. Fuck Zionism ┌∩┐. Fuck ┌∩┐┌∩┐┌∩┐ every government and

person on earth who'd use MY DEAD RELATIVES to hide their own participation in genocide occurring now. My dear Razer, You probably hate me now and I even don't know the reason. Well, we don't understand each other very well, but I love you. You know it. I have my own "cecilian" way of loving the persons that cross my life. Take care of yourself with tenderness and love, my dear. Tender kisses and sincere wishes of inner peace, healing and blessings... <3 - c. PS: - Your luck is that I sing really bad or I swear I would try a little song about CypherPunks and their middle fingers, haha!! It would be fun! ;D My love, a cultural curiosity: - Do you know that the North American signal made with fingers to represent "OK", can be used here to represent an @sshole? It's a way of say "F*ck You" in my country, hihi... :)

On 10/19/2016 10:00 AM, "rooty" outs the person posting under the alias by not enquoting *someone's* contribution to the discussion.

hi hi hi hi .....

Should be double quotes below except for the requote of me which should be triple quote eh?

-------- Original Message -------- On Oct 19, 2016, 9:43 AM, Cecilia Tanaka wrote:

On Oct 19, 2016 12:16 PM, "Razer" wrote:

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Fuck "Israel" ┌∩┐. Fuck Zionism ┌∩┐. Fuck ┌∩┐┌∩┐┌∩┐ every government and person on earth who'd use MY DEAD RELATIVES to hide their own participation in genocide occurring now.

My dear Razer,

You probably hate me now and I even don't know the reason. Well, we don't understand each other very well, but I love you. You know it. I have my own "cecilian" way of loving the persons that cross my life.

Take care of yourself with tenderness and love, my dear. Tender kisses and sincere wishes of inner peace, healing and blessings... <3

- c.

PS: - Your luck is that I sing really bad or I swear I would try a little song about CypherPunks and their middle fingers, haha!! It would be fun! ;D

My love, a cultural curiosity: - Do you know that the North American signal made with fingers to represent "OK", can be used here to represent an @sshole? It's a way of say "F*ck You" in my country, hihi... :)

On Wed, Oct 19, 2016 at 08:15:58AM -0700, Razer wrote:

On 10/18/2016 10:17 PM, Александр wrote:

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2016-10-19 2:41 GMT+03:00 John Newman :

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Are you also a holocaust denier like your friend Zen? Oh, johny, johny... poor johny... you fought Juan and you totally lost, so ... It doesn't matter a fucking ┌∩┐ bit if it was 2 million Jews or 6 Million or 10... or 5,999,999. What matters is "Holocaust Denier Baiting" is being used as a diversion from the FACT the genocide continues today against other people on the planet. A LOT of other people.

Yemen Somalia Afghanistan Syria, and NOT by it's government either...

The list of countries being destroyed along with their people is too extensive to list here... Sorry.

That CURRENT GENOCIDE is being committed mostly by the countries who disenfranchise and criminalize so-called 'deniers' and "the ad hom "Holocaust Denier!" is parroted by people globally who are ABSOLUTELY FINE with that ongoing current slaughter.

Here's a corollary to "People who don't learn from the past are condemned to repeat it"

People who are STUCK IN THE PAST are the people who WILLINGLY REPEAT IT.

Fuck "Israel" ┌∩┐. Fuck Zionism ┌∩┐. Fuck ┌∩┐┌∩┐┌∩┐ every government and person on earth who'd use MY DEAD RELATIVES to hide their own participation in genocide occurring now.

Use your OWN fucking ┌∩┐ holocausts as example and stop using MY relatives for YOUR HYPOCRITICAL Public Relations "Holier than thou" purposes, scumbuckets.

Razer, thank you! So easy for us to miss the f'ing point - woods for the trees etc.

Iraq was killing Kurds for the US. The rest of what you wrote is just as historically vacant of context. Or should I say, "Twisted and warped". Go propagandize someone else. Someone stupid perhaps. Rr On 10/22/2016 01:47 AM, Marina Brown wrote:

On 10/19/2016 11:15 AM, Razer wrote:

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On 10/18/2016 10:17 PM, Александр wrote:

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2016-10-19 2:41 GMT+03:00 John Newman :

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Are you also a holocaust denier like your friend Zen?

Oh, johny, johny... poor johny... you fought Juan and you totally lost, so now you came back to bite Zen.... you hate Zenaan and the Truth he spreads so much that you must bite him again and again and again. But the problem is - YOU ARE A SLANDERER, johny! A fucken SLANDERER!

For the record - Zen has NEVER denied the holocaust, you cock sucker. NEVER! He published ONE political-historical essay that discussed about A LOT of things and .... that was published on some holocaust denier site.. and TA-DAM... johny new-man (dick-man) took it as the ONLY and the MAJOR hook he's got on Zen and now he bites him with it every Monday and Saturday.

You piece of stupid scum, johny. And whenever i see your post/someone qoutes you, i get a vomit reflex, because i know it's gonna be super stupid or super ugly (the same refers to Tanaka's posts, by the way).

So i repeat my reply to one of your attacks on Zen: SHUT THE FUCK UP and leave this Great Human Being with the name "Zenaan". (◣◢)┌∩┐

FWIW, the best and one of the only reviews on the internet of "Keeper of the Concentration Camps", a dual bio of the careers of Dillon S. Meyer, the creep responsible for the operation of the WWII Japanese internment camps in the US who later became... Wait for it... the head of the Bureau of Indian Affairs, appears on a so-called Holocaust Denial site.

http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v08/v08p234_Strang.html

Pardon me if I've said this before. No... actually fuck ┌∩┐ your par-don:

Personally, as a 3rd generation descendant of European and Central Asian Jews whose immediate family migrated to the US in the late 1800s/early 1900s leaving some family behind to die in the Bishkek pogroms and later the Nazi concentration camps, the "Holocaust Denier" BS is MORE THAN LOST ON ME.

It doesn't matter a fucking ┌∩┐ bit if it was 2 million Jews or 6 Million or 10... or 5,999,999. What matters is "Holocaust Denier Baiting" is being used as a diversion from the FACT the genocide continues today against other people on the planet. A LOT of other people.

Yemen Somalia Afghanistan Syria, and NOT by it's government either...

The governments of Syria, Iraq and Turkey have all been involved in genocidal actions against the Kurds. The US despite all its words of support of the Kurds has kept one of the main Peshmurga groups - the KPP on the terrorist list as a sop to the Turkey where the US now has a major air base.

During the Arab Springs i made sure that the crimes of the Syrian government towards it's people were not forgotten. I will not allow them to be painted over now. They are major torturers and murderers of their own people. Activists would post videos of police harming people then the police would catch them and torture them for the passwords to take down the videos. We archived the videos so they would not be forgotten - Streisand effect. I still have them on an HD somewhere.

The crimes of the Assad family towards the people of Syria are horrific and span generations. Torture and murder. Look it up. Just because the US is attacking Syria does not make Syria the good guys.

--- Marina

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The list of countries being destroyed along with their people is too extensive to list here... Sorry.

That CURRENT GENOCIDE is being committed mostly by the countries who disenfranchise and criminalize so-called 'deniers' and "the ad hom "Holocaust Denier!" is parroted by people globally who are ABSOLUTELY FINE with that ongoing current slaughter.

Here's a corollary to "People who don't learn from the past are condemned to repeat it"

People who are STUCK IN THE PAST are the people who WILLINGLY REPEAT IT.

Fuck "Israel" ┌∩┐. Fuck Zionism ┌∩┐. Fuck ┌∩┐┌∩┐┌∩┐ every government and person on earth who'd use MY DEAD RELATIVES to hide their own participation in genocide occurring now.

Use your OWN fucking ┌∩┐ holocausts as example and stop using MY relatives for YOUR HYPOCRITICAL Public Relations "Holier than thou" purposes, scumbuckets.

Rr