GovCorp conspiracy theory fails again
Like the Batshit-Crazy fools that still promote such crap “If you had some sort of Washington-corporate alliance that wanted to make Bitcoin a transparent chain, guess what? They would have fought Taproot,” says Alex Gladstein at the Human Rights Foundation, who advocates for Bitcoin as a tool against authoritarian governments. “But there was no organized resistance to Taproot. https://www.coindesk.com/business/2021/11/29/who-sets-the-rules-of-bitcoin-a...
On Tue, Nov 30, 2021, 12:50 PM professor rat <pro2rat@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
Like the Batshit-Crazy fools that still promote such crap
“If you had some sort of Washington-corporate alliance that wanted to make Bitcoin a transparent chain, guess what? They would have fought Taproot,” says Alex Gladstein at the Human Rights Foundation, who advocates for Bitcoin as a tool against authoritarian governments. “But there was no organized resistance to Taproot.
https://www.coindesk.com/business/2021/11/29/who-sets-the-rules-of-bitcoin-a...
oops! empty reply! I was going to debate the piles of strange-seeming opinions, but changed my mind. Poor use of energy, uninformed debate.
On Tue, 30 Nov 2021 12:58:41 -0500 Karl Semich <0xloem@gmail.com> wrote:
oops! empty reply!
I was going to debate the piles of strange-seeming opinions, but changed my mind. Poor use of energy, uninformed debate.
you should tell your coworker the turd how good bitcoin is when it comes to surveillance, since you are a surveillance supporter (like the turd go figure).
On Tue, Nov 30, 2021 at 8:11 PM Punk-BatSoup-Stasi 2.0 <punks@tfwno.gf> wrote:
On Tue, 30 Nov 2021 12:58:41 -0500 Karl Semich <0xloem@gmail.com> wrote:
oops! empty reply!
I was going to debate the piles of strange-seeming opinions, but changed my mind. Poor use of energy, uninformed debate.
you should tell your coworker the turd how good bitcoin is when it comes to surveillance, since you are a surveillance supporter (like the turd go figure)
Bitcoin usage, regarding privacy, could probably be enhanced if people focus on Bitcoin Mixer usage/development in combination with the Nym Network. But how to exchange then Bitcoin privately to fiat if needed ... Regards Stefan
Swap for Monero first (either via exchanges or atomic). On Tue, Nov 30, 2021, 8:10 PM Stefan Claas < spam.trap.mailing.lists@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, Nov 30, 2021 at 8:11 PM Punk-BatSoup-Stasi 2.0 <punks@tfwno.gf> wrote:
On Tue, 30 Nov 2021 12:58:41 -0500 Karl Semich <0xloem@gmail.com> wrote:
oops! empty reply!
I was going to debate the piles of strange-seeming opinions, but
changed my
mind. Poor use of energy, uninformed debate.
you should tell your coworker the turd how good bitcoin is when it comes to surveillance, since you are a surveillance supporter (like the turd go figure)
Bitcoin usage, regarding privacy, could probably be enhanced if people focus on Bitcoin Mixer usage/development in combination with the Nym Network.
But how to exchange then Bitcoin privately to fiat if needed ...
Regards Stefan
I am aware of Monero but same question, how do you trade it to fiat if needed and you need for whatever reason privacy? Regards Stefan On Wed, Dec 1, 2021 at 2:21 PM Steven Schear <schear.steve@gmail.com> wrote:
Swap for Monero first (either via exchanges or atomic).
On Tue, Nov 30, 2021, 8:10 PM Stefan Claas <spam.trap.mailing.lists@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, Nov 30, 2021 at 8:11 PM Punk-BatSoup-Stasi 2.0 <punks@tfwno.gf> wrote:
On Tue, 30 Nov 2021 12:58:41 -0500 Karl Semich <0xloem@gmail.com> wrote:
oops! empty reply!
I was going to debate the piles of strange-seeming opinions, but changed my mind. Poor use of energy, uninformed debate.
you should tell your coworker the turd how good bitcoin is when it comes to surveillance, since you are a surveillance supporter (like the turd go figure)
Bitcoin usage, regarding privacy, could probably be enhanced if people focus on Bitcoin Mixer usage/development in combination with the Nym Network.
But how to exchange then Bitcoin privately to fiat if needed ...
Regards Stefan
Hi Stefan, My understanding is that you can trade Monero to Fiat either on the street or otherwise person-to-person, or using a digital exchange, possibly via erc-20 tokens. It's possible there are exchanges with augmented anonymisation technologies too, nowadays.
On Wed, 1 Dec 2021 16:37:49 +0100 Stefan Claas <spam.trap.mailing.lists@gmail.com> wrote:
I am aware of Monero but same question, how do you trade it to fiat if needed and you need for whatever reason privacy?
you need to find REAL PEOPLE who would buy it from you. Shocking! Of course, that means somebody will learn something about you, but at leat the guy shouldn't be a government agent.
On 11/30/21, Stefan Claas <spam.trap.mailing.lists@gmail.com> wrote:
Bitcoin usage, regarding privacy, could probably be enhanced if people focus on Bitcoin Mixer usage/development in combination with the Nym Network.
But how to exchange then Bitcoin privately to fiat if needed ...
Is mixing different for stablecoins like USDT? What do you think of cryptocurrency? I always worry that rational voices critical of digital economies have reduced on this list.
On 11/30/21 9:57 AM, Karl Semich wrote:
On Tue, Nov 30, 2021, 12:50 PM professor rat <pro2rat@yahoo.com.au <mailto:pro2rat@yahoo.com.au>> wrote:
Like the Batshit-Crazy fools that still promote such crap
“If you had some sort of Washington-corporate alliance that wanted to make Bitcoin a transparent chain, guess what? They would have fought Taproot,” says Alex Gladstein at the Human Rights Foundation, who advocates for Bitcoin as a tool against authoritarian governments. “But there was no organized resistance to Taproot.
https://www.coindesk.com/business/2021/11/29/who-sets-the-rules-of-bitcoin-a... <https://www.coindesk.com/business/2021/11/29/who-sets-the-rules-of-bitcoin-as-nation-states-and-corps-roll-in/>
Taproot should lead to a massive improvement in the privacy of the lightning network. I was expecting organized resistance. I believed that the flaws in the existing lightning network were the result of enemy action. But that taproot has gone through in the shape that it has strongly suspects that our enemies failed to understand the implications.
On Mon, Dec 13, 2021, 1:36 AM Punk-BatSoup-Stasi 2.0 <punks@tfwno.gf> wrote:
On Sun, 12 Dec 2021 21:32:11 -0800 cherry <cherry@cpal.pw> wrote:
Taproot should lead to a massive improvement in the privacy of the lightning network.
bullshit
I'm not familiar with taproot in-depth but I also don't see it as significantly related to privacy. There's enough research out there to make bitcoin networks very, very anonymous, in ways that are normalised and maintainable and simplify the codebase. Software was different before 2014, and that shows in the design of lightning. The bitcoin devs got split into factions etc. It's recorded history. There's been a lot of excitement over the lightning network in some groups of people. Who uses it? What is it used for, in the wild? Anyway, it's cool to see that bitcoin's dev process has found ways to continue innovating and it seems to be building on that more and more.
On Mon, 13 Dec 2021 04:11:51 -0500 Karl <gmkarl@gmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, Dec 13, 2021, 1:36 AM Punk-BatSoup-Stasi 2.0 <punks@tfwno.gf> wrote:
On Sun, 12 Dec 2021 21:32:11 -0800 cherry <cherry@cpal.pw> wrote:
Taproot should lead to a massive improvement in the privacy of the lightning network.
bullshit
I'm not familiar with taproot in-depth but I also don't see it as significantly related to privacy.
schnorr signatures and other tricks improve privacy but it's nothing revolutionary. And those changes don't affect privacy (or lack of it) inside the lightning network.
There's enough research out there to make bitcoin networks very, very anonymous, in ways that are normalised and maintainable and simplify the codebase.
such as?
Software was different before 2014, and that shows in the design of lightning. The bitcoin devs got split into factions etc. It's recorded history.
There's been a lot of excitement over the lightning network in some groups of people. Who uses it? What is it used for, in the wild?
Anyway, it's cool to see that bitcoin's dev process has found ways to continue innovating and it seems to be building on that more and more.
On Tue, 14 Dec 2021 05:20:30 -0500 Karl <gmkarl@gmail.com> wrote:
such as?
constant bandwidth onion routing?
the topic was bitcoin and the lightning network - and it would be obvious if you didn't delete the context. so anyway, as to the origical claim that taproot 'proves' that there's no govcorp - it shows that whoever thinks either knows shit about bitcoin, or is a lying government agent.
were you not here for the discussions of anonymity improvements to replace tor that happened over the years? i've lost most of my references to that stuff i'm afraid, but it would be good to find where it is now
just a note that these topics (bitcoin development and anonymous routing) are not in conflict but no i do not remember much of anonymity protocols, despite reading about them for a few years
On Tue, 30 Nov 2021 17:50:11 +0000 (UTC) piece of joo shit <pro2rat@yahoo.com.au> vomited:
“If you had some sort of Washington-corporate alliance that wanted to make Bitcoin a transparent chain,
you can't MAKE bitcoin 'tranparent' because it ALREADY IS 'transparent' and has been TRANSPARENT since day 0. That is to say, bitcoin is shit, privacy-wise. the iddle question here is whether the piece of non human US-joo nazi shit professor turd knows this (he can't even send proper email).
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