China reparations to world, ought include returning Tibet to the Tibetans - Wuhan China virus - [PEACE]
China ought be held to return Tibet to the Tibetans, under the authority of the Dalai Llama, as part of the reparations for the China virus/ Wuhan flu. Coronavirus response in Tibet: arrests, crackdown, religious repression https://savetibet.org/coronavirus-response-in-tibet-arrests-crackdown-religi... https://tibet.net/coronavirus-response-in-tibet-arrests-crackdown-religious-... .. - China has responded to the spread of coronavirus to Tibet by cracking down on people who post information online about the deadly illness, including one man who was detained by police simply for encouraging his contacts to recite prayers to ward off infection. - Chinese authorities also announced the cancellation of public religious festivals and prayer ceremonies for “Losar,” the Tibetan New Year, which begins Feb. 24. - In the wake of the outbreak, the Chinese government has activated its network of military and Chinese Community Party cadres to spread propaganda about protecting “stability”—a euphemism for the suppression of free speech and the enforcement of compliance with CCP policies. - Despite the spread of the virus, China’s leadership has chosen to move ahead with a new campaign in Tibet described as sending a “million police to 10 million homes.” The intention is to ensure “grassroots” integration of security forces in local communities. The campaign began in January and will continue throughout the year. - In contrast to the Chinese government’s heavy-handed response, the Tibetan people have reacted to the outbreak of coronavirus with compassion. Monasteries have donated funds for the purchase of facemasks and goggles, and Tibetans lit butter lamps in honour of the Chinese whistleblower who warned about the virus and subsequently died from it. https://www.yandex.com/search/?text=coronavirus%20in%20tibet&lr=10145
On Sun, Apr 12, 2020 at 11:44:05AM +1000, Zenaan Harkness wrote:
China ought be held to return Tibet to the Tibetans, under the authority of the Dalai Llama, as part of the reparations for the China virus/ Wuhan flu.
Coronavirus response in Tibet: arrests, crackdown, religious repression https://savetibet.org/coronavirus-response-in-tibet-arrests-crackdown-religi... https://tibet.net/coronavirus-response-in-tibet-arrests-crackdown-religious-... .. - China has responded to the spread of coronavirus to Tibet by cracking down on people who post information online about the deadly illness, including one man who was detained by police simply for encouraging his contacts to recite prayers to ward off infection. - Chinese authorities also announced the cancellation of public religious festivals and prayer ceremonies for “Losar,” the Tibetan New Year, which begins Feb. 24. - In the wake of the outbreak, the Chinese government has activated its network of military and Chinese Community Party cadres to spread propaganda about protecting “stability”—a euphemism for the suppression of free speech and the enforcement of compliance with CCP policies. - Despite the spread of the virus, China’s leadership has chosen to move ahead with a new campaign in Tibet described as sending a “million police to 10 million homes.” The intention is to ensure “grassroots” integration of security forces in local communities. The campaign began in January and will continue throughout the year. - In contrast to the Chinese government’s heavy-handed response, the Tibetan people have reacted to the outbreak of coronavirus with compassion. Monasteries have donated funds for the purchase of facemasks and goggles, and Tibetans lit butter lamps in honour of the Chinese whistleblower who warned about the virus and subsequently died from it.
https://www.yandex.com/search/?text=coronavirus%20in%20tibet&lr=10145
So China's behaviour through all this Chinese Wuhan coronavirus COVID-19 brouhaha, from any view of "human lives matter", has been utterly atrocious. But what does one expect from the CCP/ Chinese communist regime? This awareness now rising in the West, leads to a looming "100 Years of Shame" for the Chinese. Little things such as setting right the Chinese wrongs in Tibet and giving Tibetans back their country, may go part of the way to a future where China is able to build a moral standing in the world. Until then, it is a certainty we shall, sadly, see the coming Century Of Shame for the Chinese people. This will not be "humiliation" since it is not caused by other nations, but by the behaviour of the Chinese Communist Party members themselves, and the consequences therefrom.
On Sun, Apr 12, 2020 at 03:50:29PM +1000, Zenaan Harkness wrote:
On Sun, Apr 12, 2020 at 11:44:05AM +1000, Zenaan Harkness wrote:
China ought be held to return Tibet to the Tibetans, under the authority of the Dalai Llama, as part of the reparations for the China virus/ Wuhan flu.
Coronavirus response in Tibet: arrests, crackdown, religious repression https://savetibet.org/coronavirus-response-in-tibet-arrests-crackdown-religi... https://tibet.net/coronavirus-response-in-tibet-arrests-crackdown-religious-... .. - China has responded to the spread of coronavirus to Tibet by cracking down on people who post information online about the deadly illness, including one man who was detained by police simply for encouraging his contacts to recite prayers to ward off infection. - Chinese authorities also announced the cancellation of public religious festivals and prayer ceremonies for “Losar,” the Tibetan New Year, which begins Feb. 24. - In the wake of the outbreak, the Chinese government has activated its network of military and Chinese Community Party cadres to spread propaganda about protecting “stability”—a euphemism for the suppression of free speech and the enforcement of compliance with CCP policies. - Despite the spread of the virus, China’s leadership has chosen to move ahead with a new campaign in Tibet described as sending a “million police to 10 million homes.” The intention is to ensure “grassroots” integration of security forces in local communities. The campaign began in January and will continue throughout the year. - In contrast to the Chinese government’s heavy-handed response, the Tibetan people have reacted to the outbreak of coronavirus with compassion. Monasteries have donated funds for the purchase of facemasks and goggles, and Tibetans lit butter lamps in honour of the Chinese whistleblower who warned about the virus and subsequently died from it.
https://www.yandex.com/search/?text=coronavirus%20in%20tibet&lr=10145
So China's behaviour through all this Chinese Wuhan coronavirus COVID-19 brouhaha, from any view of "human lives matter", has been utterly atrocious.
But what does one expect from the CCP/ Chinese communist regime?
This awareness now rising in the West, leads to a looming "100 Years of Shame" for the Chinese.
Little things such as setting right the Chinese wrongs in Tibet and giving Tibetans back their country, may go part of the way to a future where China is able to build a moral standing in the world. Until then, it is a certainty we shall, sadly, see the coming Century Of Shame for the Chinese people.
This will not be "humiliation" since it is not caused by other nations, but by the behaviour of the Chinese Communist Party members themselves, and the consequences therefrom.
China feels the burn, chooses to get uppity and aggressive against India: Satellite Images Confirm Rapid Chinese Military Expansion On Disputed Indian Border https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/satellite-images-confirm-rapid-chines... A new report in the Asia-based online tech journal Insider Paper cites open source satellite images to confirm the latest widespread reporting on the major Chinese PLA troop build-up underway along disputed Sino-Indian border regions. https://insiderpaper.com/satellite-images-show-china-airbase-and-jets-near-l... https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/indian-media-reports-10000-chinese-so... The report cites the following via a reputable open-source satellite imagery analyst: According to a few satellite images published by a local Indian news publication, the Chinese troops have commenced the expansion of its airbase, 200 km from Pangong Lake, in Ladakh. The images, also showing Ngari Gunsa airport in Tibet, originated from open-source intelligence expert @detresfa_, an analyst with ShadowBreak Intl. "The first image shows how the territory originally looked. However, the second image clearly shows massive construction activity going on in the territory." According to the report, this suggests a significant and rapid Chinese military build-up in the past months along the contested border region amid what Indian media has widely reported since this weekend to be PLA forces digging into fortified positions. https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/indian-media-reports-10000-chinese-so... Importantly, the strategic base is a mere 200km away from Pangong lake, where recent skirmishes between Chinese and Indian border patrols took place on May 5th-6th. https://time.com/5843279/india-china-border/ The Insider Paper report continues, based on satellite analysis: "The expansion has included something that looks more like a secondary tarmac to combat aircraft or taxi-track. Also, the third image shows a line-up of four fighter jets. They are either J-11 or J-16 fighters of the Chinese PLA Air Force." https://insiderpaper.com/satellite-images-show-china-airbase-and-jets-near-l... .. Sporadic but fierce clashes have occurred going back to the 1960's along the shared but pretty much completely unmarked 2,100 mile border, which often involves literal fist-fights among opposing troops and border patrol guards. .. And The Guardian also said on Wednesday: "Thousands of Chinese People's Liberation (PLA) troops are reported to have moved into sensitive areas along the eastern Ladokh border, setting up tents and stationing vehicles and heavy machinery in what India considers to be its territory." https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/may/27/china-and-india-move-troops-as... .. It's a fast escalating situation that FP recently noted could explode into major conflict between two nuclear armed powers. https://foreignpolicy.com/2020/05/23/india-china-border-skirmishes/ The more China shows its ugly side today, the more the settlement will be against its interests. Tibet ought by rights be returned to the Tibetans under the authority of the Dalai Llama.
On Thu, May 28, 2020 at 01:01:10PM +1000, Zenaan Harkness wrote:
On Sun, Apr 12, 2020 at 03:50:29PM +1000, Zenaan Harkness wrote:
On Sun, Apr 12, 2020 at 11:44:05AM +1000, Zenaan Harkness wrote:
China ought be held to return Tibet to the Tibetans, under the authority of the Dalai Llama, as part of the reparations for the China virus/ Wuhan flu.
Coronavirus response in Tibet: arrests, crackdown, religious repression https://savetibet.org/coronavirus-response-in-tibet-arrests-crackdown-religi... https://tibet.net/coronavirus-response-in-tibet-arrests-crackdown-religious-... .. - China has responded to the spread of coronavirus to Tibet by cracking down on people who post information online about the deadly illness, including one man who was detained by police simply for encouraging his contacts to recite prayers to ward off infection. - Chinese authorities also announced the cancellation of public religious festivals and prayer ceremonies for “Losar,” the Tibetan New Year, which begins Feb. 24. - In the wake of the outbreak, the Chinese government has activated its network of military and Chinese Community Party cadres to spread propaganda about protecting “stability”—a euphemism for the suppression of free speech and the enforcement of compliance with CCP policies. - Despite the spread of the virus, China’s leadership has chosen to move ahead with a new campaign in Tibet described as sending a “million police to 10 million homes.” The intention is to ensure “grassroots” integration of security forces in local communities. The campaign began in January and will continue throughout the year. - In contrast to the Chinese government’s heavy-handed response, the Tibetan people have reacted to the outbreak of coronavirus with compassion. Monasteries have donated funds for the purchase of facemasks and goggles, and Tibetans lit butter lamps in honour of the Chinese whistleblower who warned about the virus and subsequently died from it.
https://www.yandex.com/search/?text=coronavirus%20in%20tibet&lr=10145
So China's behaviour through all this Chinese Wuhan coronavirus COVID-19 brouhaha, from any view of "human lives matter", has been utterly atrocious.
But what does one expect from the CCP/ Chinese communist regime?
This awareness now rising in the West, leads to a looming "100 Years of Shame" for the Chinese.
Little things such as setting right the Chinese wrongs in Tibet and giving Tibetans back their country, may go part of the way to a future where China is able to build a moral standing in the world. Until then, it is a certainty we shall, sadly, see the coming Century Of Shame for the Chinese people.
This will not be "humiliation" since it is not caused by other nations, but by the behaviour of the Chinese Communist Party members themselves, and the consequences therefrom.
China feels the burn, chooses to get uppity and aggressive against India:
Satellite Images Confirm Rapid Chinese Military Expansion On Disputed Indian Border https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/satellite-images-confirm-rapid-chines...
A new report in the Asia-based online tech journal Insider Paper cites open source satellite images to confirm the latest widespread reporting on the major Chinese PLA troop build-up underway along disputed Sino-Indian border regions. https://insiderpaper.com/satellite-images-show-china-airbase-and-jets-near-l... https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/indian-media-reports-10000-chinese-so...
The report cites the following via a reputable open-source satellite imagery analyst:
According to a few satellite images published by a local Indian news publication, the Chinese troops have commenced the expansion of its airbase, 200 km from Pangong Lake, in Ladakh. The images, also showing Ngari Gunsa airport in Tibet, originated from open-source intelligence expert @detresfa_, an analyst with ShadowBreak Intl.
"The first image shows how the territory originally looked. However, the second image clearly shows massive construction activity going on in the territory."
According to the report, this suggests a significant and rapid Chinese military build-up in the past months along the contested border region amid what Indian media has widely reported since this weekend to be PLA forces digging into fortified positions. https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/indian-media-reports-10000-chinese-so...
Importantly, the strategic base is a mere 200km away from Pangong lake, where recent skirmishes between Chinese and Indian border patrols took place on May 5th-6th. https://time.com/5843279/india-china-border/
The Insider Paper report continues, based on satellite analysis: "The expansion has included something that looks more like a secondary tarmac to combat aircraft or taxi-track. Also, the third image shows a line-up of four fighter jets. They are either J-11 or J-16 fighters of the Chinese PLA Air Force." https://insiderpaper.com/satellite-images-show-china-airbase-and-jets-near-l...
.. Sporadic but fierce clashes have occurred going back to the 1960's along the shared but pretty much completely unmarked 2,100 mile border, which often involves literal fist-fights among opposing troops and border patrol guards.
.. And The Guardian also said on Wednesday: "Thousands of Chinese People's Liberation (PLA) troops are reported to have moved into sensitive areas along the eastern Ladokh border, setting up tents and stationing vehicles and heavy machinery in what India considers to be its territory." https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/may/27/china-and-india-move-troops-as...
.. It's a fast escalating situation that FP recently noted could explode into major conflict between two nuclear armed powers. https://foreignpolicy.com/2020/05/23/india-china-border-skirmishes/
The more China shows its ugly side today, the more the settlement will be against its interests.
Tibet ought by rights be returned to the Tibetans under the authority of the Dalai Llama.
Thick face, BLACK heart rolls on: China Rattled After Taiwan Pledges Help For Fleeing Hong Kongers https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/china-rattled-after-taiwan-pledges-he... A furious Beijing denounced Taiwan's Thursday promise to settle displaced Hong Kong residents who flee the city for political reasons, saying that the ruling Democratic Progressive Party was seeking to "loot a burning house" and sow discord, according to Channel News Asia. https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/asia/taiwan-help-fleeing-hong-kongers-c... The move comes as Hong Kong protesters have taken to the streets in opposition to new security legislation which would allow Chinese intelligence services to operate on Hong Kong soil, increasing Beijing's grip on the semi-autonomous city and targeting secession, subversion, terrorism and foreign interference - terms used by China to describe last year's protests across the city sparked by a now-shelved extradition treaty. Taiwan President Tsai Ing-wen this week became the first world leader to step up and pledge specific help to Hong Kong residents who wish to leave over the new legislation. It’s really amazing that Taiwan—which faces a, you know, existential threat from China—can muster a more strongly worded tweet than any statement the Europeans are putting out. https://t.co/kuBNt7SoYE — Michael Mazza (@mike_mazza) May 28, 2020 According to Taiwan's top China-policy maker at the Mainland Affairs Council, Chen Ming-tong, the government will establish a "humanitarian relief" organization that will include employment and settlement assistance in a joint effort with activist groups - adding that counseling services would also be provided for Hong Kongers - some of whom have participated in often-violent pro-democracy protests in Hong Kong. "Many Hong Kongers want to come to Taiwan. Our goal is to give them settlement and care," said Chen, urging the public not to call people "refugees" as it could be "emotionally harmful" to people from the city. "Bringing black, violent forces into Taiwan will bring disaster to Taiwan's people," warned China's Taiwan Affairs Office. Hong Kong's demonstrators have won widespread sympathy in democratic Taiwan, which China considers as its territory to be taken by force, if necessary. Taiwan has shown no interest in being ruled by autocratic China. Help for Hong Kong has won rare bipartisan support in politically polarised Taiwan and three opposition parties have introduced bills to make it easier for Hong Kongers to live in Taiwan if they have to leave the city due to political reasons. Taiwan has no law on refugees that could be applied to protesters seeking asylum, but its laws promise to help Hong Kongers whose safety and liberty are threatened for political reasons. -Channel News Asia https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/asia/taiwan-help-fleeing-hong-kongers-c... Some Taiwan lawmakers say Tsai's government isn't moving fast enough with relief efforts. "Please come up with details of the humanitarian relief at the soonest. Don't wait until people shed blood like water," said opposition lawmaker from the Kuomintang party. CNA notes that Taiwan has granted residency to 2,383 Hong Kong citizens in the first four months of 2020, an increase of 150% vs. one year ago. Meanwhile, university applications to Taiwan from Hong Kong have spiked 62% in 2020 vs. last year - while Taiwan's education ministry announced this week that it would raise the quota for students from Hong Kong.
When presented with essential propaganda, it is most important to not find the humorous side, and only treat everything with the utmost seriousness... So remember y'all, a vote for D is a vote for Xi :D Xi Takes Up Trump's Challenge Patrick Buchanan via Buchanan.org, https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/xi-takes-trumps-challenge https://buchanan.org/blog/jinping-takes-up-the-us-challenge-138600 .. “China’s been ruled by a brutal, authoritarian regime, a communist regime since 1949. For several decades, we thought the regime would become more like us through trade, scientific exchanges, diplomatic outreach … (but) that didn’t happen. .. Who did this to us? We did it to ourselves. Schlichter: This Election Is Republicans Versus China Kurt Schlichter, op-ed via Townhall.com, https://www.zerohedge.com/political/schlichter-election-republicans-versus-c... https://townhall.com/columnists/kurtschlichter/2020/05/28/this-election-is-r... It’s pretty clear who the commie bastards known for their shoddy lab practices and their weird fetish for gnawing on pangolins badly want to win in November, and it's not Trump and the Republicans. The Chinese communists want their money’s worth, and they will go all-in for the Democrats who find the chance to hurt Trump at the same time they hurt America too delicious to pass up. Plus, the Dems heartily approve of what Mao’s Pals are doing to freedom-loving Hong Kongers, seeing it as a template for what they would love to do to freedom-loving us. We need to understand and accept that a vote for anyone with a “D” is a vote for Xi. ...
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One could say "At least the CCP (Chinese Communist Party) has a sense of black humour." Hong Kong Makes "Disrespecting Chinese National Anthem" A Crime - On Anniversary Of 'Tiananmen Square' https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/hong-kong-makes-disrespecting-chinese... As if the imposition of a new "National Security" law by the Politburo Standing Committee wasn't enough of a kick to the face for Hong Kong's pro-democracy movement, the city's own executive council, which over the years has been packed with pro-Beijing lawmakers via anti-democratic tactics, has just made it illegal to "disrespect" the Chinese national anthem. What's worse: the new law, perhaps the biggest move by the legislature to suppress political freedoms in the city to date, was passed on the anniversary of "the June 4 incident" - better known in the US as the Tiananmen Square massacre, which WSJ noted is a "poignant day" for Hong Kong. For the first time, the HK Tiananmen vigil is banned. Anyone calling the crackdown on demonstrators here “America’s Tiananmen” is being facile. We’re able to talk honestly about our flawed past and move the moral needle. For 31 years, China has buried the memory of Tiananmen. — Melissa Chen (@MsMelChen) June 4, 2020 https://twitter.com/MsMelChen/status/1268385700631793669?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw Many suspect that the law was passed as part of an effort mandated by Beijing to crack down on an annual vigil to honor the victims, which the authorities are refusing to allow this year for the first time since the incident occurred. The vote was held on a poignant day in Hong Kong, where for the first time in 30 years, authorities refused permission for a mass vigil to mourn the deaths of the pro-democracy students gunned down by Chinese soldiers in Tiananmen Square 31 years ago. Police objected to the vigil, citing social-distancing rules amid the continuing coronavirus pandemic, and threatened to arrest those who violated the ban. ... There are regimes, and there are regimes. On Mon, Jun 01, 2020 at 12:34:25PM +1000, Zig the N.g wrote:
When presented with essential propaganda, it is most important to not find the humorous side, and only treat everything with the utmost seriousness...
So remember y'all, a vote for D is a vote for Xi :D
Xi Takes Up Trump's Challenge Patrick Buchanan via Buchanan.org, https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/xi-takes-trumps-challenge https://buchanan.org/blog/jinping-takes-up-the-us-challenge-138600 .. “China’s been ruled by a brutal, authoritarian regime, a communist regime since 1949. For several decades, we thought the regime would become more like us through trade, scientific exchanges, diplomatic outreach … (but) that didn’t happen. .. Who did this to us? We did it to ourselves.
Schlichter: This Election Is Republicans Versus China Kurt Schlichter, op-ed via Townhall.com, https://www.zerohedge.com/political/schlichter-election-republicans-versus-c... https://townhall.com/columnists/kurtschlichter/2020/05/28/this-election-is-r...
It’s pretty clear who the commie bastards known for their shoddy lab practices and their weird fetish for gnawing on pangolins badly want to win in November, and it's not Trump and the Republicans. The Chinese communists want their money’s worth, and they will go all-in for the Democrats who find the chance to hurt Trump at the same time they hurt America too delicious to pass up. Plus, the Dems heartily approve of what Mao’s Pals are doing to freedom-loving Hong Kongers, seeing it as a template for what they would love to do to freedom-loving us.
We need to understand and accept that a vote for anyone with a “D” is a vote for Xi. ...
Some history, folks: The June 4 Tiananmen Square Massacre: Five Truths That Still Aren't Widely Known https://www.theepochtimes.com/the-june-4-tiananmen-square-massacre-five-trut... https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/june-4-tiananmen-square-massacre-five-trut... Following the sudden death of a beloved political reformer, Hu Yaobang, 200,000 students gathered at Tiananmen Square on April 22, 1989, to await the hearse carrying Hu’s body - but it never arrived. The mass of students were angered, and their burning desire for freedom could be contained no more. https://www.theepochtimes.com/t-tiananmen-square For the next few weeks, Tiananmen Square was occupied by these student protesters, who aimed at making reality their dream of ridding the country of communist tyranny and bringing democratic reform to China. Their non-violent demonstration perhaps brought a glimmer of hope … until the army moved in. Although martial law was declared on May 20 that year, what caused the army to suddenly go on a killing rampage on June 4? https://www.theepochtimes.com/t-june-4 [image] L: Thousands of Chinese gather on June 2, 1989, in Tiananmen Square around “The Goodness of Democracy,” demanding democracy despite martial law in Beijing. (CATHERINE HENRIETTE/AFP via Getty Images). R: “The Goddess of Democracy,” a 10-meter replica of the Statue of Liberty created by students from an art institute to promote the pro-democracy protest against the Chinese government. (TOSHIO SAKAI/AFP via Getty Images) -------------------- 1. Mass-Murdered by the Chinese Regime At least 10,454 people were mass-murdered by the Chinese communist regime on Tiananmen Square, according to an unnamed source from the Chinese State Council. The figure is far greater than the “official” fatality count of 200. On June 4, 1989, students were gunned down in droves and “mown down” by tanks. “APCs (Armored personnel carriers) then ran over bodies time and time again to make ‘pie’ and remains collected by bulldozer. Remains incinerated and then hosed down drains,” reads part of a declassified statement, which was obtained by Alan Donald, Britain’s ambassador to China in 1989. https://www.theepochtimes.com/at-least-10000-killed-during-the-tiananmen-squ... It’s still unconfirmed how many more were massacred during and after the students’ unarmed protest. [image] Waving banners, high school students march in Beijing streets near Tiananmen Square on May 25, 1989, during a rally to support the pro-democracy protest against the Chinese regime. (CATHERINE HENRIETTE/AFP via Getty Images) -------------------- 2. The Ringleader Is Still Alive In addition to rolling over the students with tanks, the army fired high-explosive shells that expand on impact, also known as dum-dum bullets, (forbidden by the Geneva Convention) to kill the students in the most harm-inflicting way possible. The question remains—what kind of a human being would order such a brutal mass murder of freedom-seeking civilians? [image] Former leader of the Chinese Communist Party Jiang Zemin (Feng Li/Getty Images) Former paramount leader of the party Deng Xiaoping was impressed with Jiang Zemin’s iron-fisted proposition to use the army to crack down on the students, and promoted him from Party Chief of Shanghai to General Secretary of the Chinese Communist Party days before the massacre, giving him free rein to do as he liked. Jiang Zemin, the mastermind behind the massacre, ordered the army to carry out his bloody strategy on June 4. The “gate of heavenly peace” was suddenly turned into hell on Earth. [image] Taken care of by others, an unidentified foreign journalist (2nd-R) is carried out from the clash site between the army and students on June 4, 1989, near Tiananmen Square. (TOMMY CHENG/AFP via Getty Images) -------------------- 3. Ruthless Abuse of Power The Tiananmen Square Massacre was just the start of Jiang’s ruthless abuse of power. He went on to commit the most heinous crimes that couldn’t bear the light of day. In the bloody wake of the massacre, Jiang became Deng’s ideal heir for the next Party Chief, a position Jiang secured in 1993. Jiang, a Marxist hardliner and ex-senior spy for the KGB’s Far-East Bureau, had only begun to show his true colors with how he dealt with the protesting students and went on to orchestrate even bloodier campaigns. In 1999, Jiang sought to “eradicate” Falun Gong—a popular spiritual practice—after the number of people practicing it rose some 100 million, outnumbering the then 70 million Party members, according to state-run reports at the time. http://faluninfo.net/ [image] Falun Gong practitioners doing the group exercise in Guangzhou, China, in 1998. (Minghui) http://photo.minghui.org/photo/Eindex.htm Under Jiang’s rule, an adroit misinformation campaign inundated China, turning public opinion against Falun Gong by subjecting the spiritual practice to extreme vilification—including the infamous Tiananmen Square “self-immolation” hoax, which successfully deceived the nation—paving the way for Jiang’s next phase: to forcibly “transform” or “eliminate” the meditators who refused to give up the practice. In response to Jiang’s genocidal policy, believed to have caused a widespread yet unascertainable amount of state-approved killings, including forced organ harvesting, over 209,000 lawsuits have since been filed against Jiang, making him the most sued dictator in history. [image] Falun Gong practitioners at a rally in front of the Chinese embassy in New York City on July 3, 2015, to support the global effort to sue Jiang Zemin. (Larry Dye/The Epoch Times) -------------------- 4. Horrifying Accounts Kept Secret A Blacklock’s Reporter obtained secret telex messages concerning horrifying accounts of what really happened on Tiananmen Square that day via access-to-information laws. https://www.theepochtimes.com/cables-reveal-canadian-officials-dark-views-on... “An old woman knelt in front of soldiers pleading for students; soldiers killed her,” the Canadian embassy in Beijing reported at the time. Blacklock’s writes: “A boy was seen trying to escape holding a woman with a 2-year old child in a stroller, and was run over by a tank”; “The tank turned around and mashed them up”; “Soldiers fired machine guns until the ammo ran out.” An unbelievable amount of bullets were fired on civilians at Tiananmen that “they ricocheted inside nearby houses, killing many residents.” “The embassy described the killings as ‘savage,’” according to Blacklock’s Reporter. “They are now entering a period of vicious repression during which denunciations and fear of persecution will terrorize the population,” reads another cable obtained. [image] Chinese onlookers run away as a soldier threatens them with a gun on June 5, 1989, as tanks took position at Beijing’s key intersections next to the diplomatic compound. (CATHERINE HENRIETTE/AFP via Getty Images) Diplomats added that some 1,000 executions took place following the massacre, but an exact figure is unconfirmed. “It was probably thought that the massacre of a few hundreds or thousands would convince the population not to pursue their protests. It seems to be working,” reads a statement by the diplomats. The secret British cable, obtained by news website HK01, reveals more detail about the crimes of the 27 Army of Shanxi Province on the day. https://www.hk01.com/%E7%A4%BE%E6%9C%83%E6%96%B0%E8%81%9E/140801/%E5%85%AD%E... “27 Army ordered to spare no one and shot wounded SMR soldiers. Four wounded girl students begged for their lives but were bayoneted. A 3-year-old girl was injured but her mother was shot as she went to her aid as were six others who tried.” “A thousand survivors were told they could escape via Zhengyi Lu but were then mown down by specially prepared M/G (machine gun) positions.” [image] Ailing student hunger strikers from Beijing University receive first aid treatment under a makeshift tent set up on May 17, 1989, at Tiananmen Square as students enter the 5th day of a marathon hunger strike as part of a mass pro-democracy protest against the Chinese government. (CATHERINE HENRIETTE/AFP via Getty Images) -------------------- 5. “June 4”: A Highly Taboo Subject in China Today Despite Hong Kong lighting up every evening on June 4 in an annual candlelight vigil to commemorate the victims of the massacre, Chinese mainlanders across the border are without such freedom of speech. Talking about the Tiananmen Square Massacre, or even mentioning “June 4,” or “6.4,” could have one disappear. In 2007, Zhang Zhongshun, a lecturer from Yantai University, showed his class a video of the massacre he obtained from an overseas website. He was subsequently jailed for three years by Laishan City Court on Feb. 28, 2008. [image] Tens of thousands of people hold candles during a vigil in Hong Kong on June 4, 2018, to mark the 29th anniversary of the 1989 Tiananmen crackdown in Beijing. (ANTHONY WALLACE/AFP via Getty Images) “I imagined that the worst case would just be that the university president would criticize me in front of my colleagues in a meeting. I would not have thought that the communist regime would imprison me,” Zhang told The Epoch Times in an interview after his release from the detention. https://www.theepochtimes.com/tiananmen-square-massacre-june-4-china-ccp-hum... “Is it illegal even if I include a historical event into my lecture?” he asked. [image] A student displays a banner with one of the slogans chanted by the crowd of some 200,000 pouring into Tiananmen Square on April 22, 1989, in Beijing in an attempt to participate in the funeral ceremony of former Chinese Communist Party leader and liberal reformer Hu Yaobang. His death in April triggered an unprecedented wave of pro-democracy demonstrations. The April-June 1989 movement was crushed by Chinese troops in June when army tanks rolled into Tiananmen Square June 4, 1989. (CATHERINE HENRIETTE/AFP via Getty Images) Who’d dare raise this for discussion in China knowing the consequences? This year marks the 31st anniversary of the Tiananmen Square Massacre. Will the current Chinese leaders redress the issue and bring Jiang Zemin to justice for his litany of crimes? Only time will tell. On Thu, Jun 04, 2020 at 11:15:46PM +1000, Zig the N.g wrote:
Hey hey, livin it up in Bat Stew land? NO? Well sweriously muh n.gs, you ain't not knowin what yuze missin :)
From the dept. of the CCP writing the Chinese memes on deyselves .. comes ... The CCP - making Tank Man great again :D
One could say "At least the CCP (Chinese Communist Party) has a sense of black humour."
Hong Kong Makes "Disrespecting Chinese National Anthem" A Crime - On Anniversary Of 'Tiananmen Square' https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/hong-kong-makes-disrespecting-chinese...
As if the imposition of a new "National Security" law by the Politburo Standing Committee wasn't enough of a kick to the face for Hong Kong's pro-democracy movement, the city's own executive council, which over the years has been packed with pro-Beijing lawmakers via anti-democratic tactics, has just made it illegal to "disrespect" the Chinese national anthem.
What's worse: the new law, perhaps the biggest move by the legislature to suppress political freedoms in the city to date, was passed on the anniversary of "the June 4 incident" - better known in the US as the Tiananmen Square massacre, which WSJ noted is a "poignant day" for Hong Kong.
For the first time, the HK Tiananmen vigil is banned. Anyone calling the crackdown on demonstrators here “America’s Tiananmen” is being facile. We’re able to talk honestly about our flawed past and move the moral needle. For 31 years, China has buried the memory of Tiananmen. — Melissa Chen (@MsMelChen) June 4, 2020 https://twitter.com/MsMelChen/status/1268385700631793669?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw
Many suspect that the law was passed as part of an effort mandated by Beijing to crack down on an annual vigil to honor the victims, which the authorities are refusing to allow this year for the first time since the incident occurred.
The vote was held on a poignant day in Hong Kong, where for the first time in 30 years, authorities refused permission for a mass vigil to mourn the deaths of the pro-democracy students gunned down by Chinese soldiers in Tiananmen Square 31 years ago. Police objected to the vigil, citing social-distancing rules amid the continuing coronavirus pandemic, and threatened to arrest those who violated the ban. ...
There are regimes, and there are regimes.
On Mon, Jun 01, 2020 at 12:34:25PM +1000, Zig the N.g wrote:
When presented with essential propaganda, it is most important to not find the humorous side, and only treat everything with the utmost seriousness...
So remember y'all, a vote for D is a vote for Xi :D
Xi Takes Up Trump's Challenge Patrick Buchanan via Buchanan.org, https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/xi-takes-trumps-challenge https://buchanan.org/blog/jinping-takes-up-the-us-challenge-138600 .. “China’s been ruled by a brutal, authoritarian regime, a communist regime since 1949. For several decades, we thought the regime would become more like us through trade, scientific exchanges, diplomatic outreach … (but) that didn’t happen. .. Who did this to us? We did it to ourselves.
Schlichter: This Election Is Republicans Versus China Kurt Schlichter, op-ed via Townhall.com, https://www.zerohedge.com/political/schlichter-election-republicans-versus-c... https://townhall.com/columnists/kurtschlichter/2020/05/28/this-election-is-r...
It’s pretty clear who the commie bastards known for their shoddy lab practices and their weird fetish for gnawing on pangolins badly want to win in November, and it's not Trump and the Republicans. The Chinese communists want their money’s worth, and they will go all-in for the Democrats who find the chance to hurt Trump at the same time they hurt America too delicious to pass up. Plus, the Dems heartily approve of what Mao’s Pals are doing to freedom-loving Hong Kongers, seeing it as a template for what they would love to do to freedom-loving us.
We need to understand and accept that a vote for anyone with a “D” is a vote for Xi. ...
Thank you for sharing this information. Found these bits missing: - Despite a new order banning the practice, activists held a vigil in memorial of the event this year, with thousands attending. From same news site. They may need support to be able to continue this in furthet years. - There is video and declassified information on the event that may be precious to Chinese activists if ever lost. From the linked articles. I do not know where to find these things. - None of the decision makers from the massacre have formal decision-making positions as powerful as during it, but a couple still have presence on the world stage. From wikipedia. I do not support blaming events on those who order them, preferring to look for underlying cultural and systems causes. - The article puts democracy and communism in opposition. The intensity of the historical event sustains this deception. There is nothing impossible about democratic communism or tyrannical capitalism. This cultural confusion is partially relevence to Tiananmen 6/4 1989 that we hold today. On the 4th of June, 1989, the People's Liberation Army isolated an immense protest for democratic freedoms and not only machine-gunned every one of their civilians within that area of the city, but steamrolled them after machine gunning them, incinerated the people after they were mashed flat, and hosed them down the drains. This event is heavily undiscussed in China due to harm to those who discuss it. To be clear, that is true terrorism: instilling unimaginable horrifying fear around an event of importance, that nobody seems to offer validation around. This sounds like a meaningful unpredictability that activists and enforcers in China handle all the time. It was in the past, but we'd better make sure some day that the video is on a blockchain, to show people that that can be done in the future. On Fri, Jun 5, 2020, 1:01 AM Zenaan Harkness <zen@freedbms.net> wrote:
Some history, folks:
The June 4 Tiananmen Square Massacre: Five Truths That Still Aren't Widely Known
https://www.theepochtimes.com/the-june-4-tiananmen-square-massacre-five-trut...
https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/june-4-tiananmen-square-massacre-five-trut...
Following the sudden death of a beloved political reformer, Hu Yaobang, 200,000 students gathered at Tiananmen Square on April 22, 1989, to await the hearse carrying Hu’s body - but it never arrived. The mass of students were angered, and their burning desire for freedom could be contained no more. https://www.theepochtimes.com/t-tiananmen-square
For the next few weeks, Tiananmen Square was occupied by these student protesters, who aimed at making reality their dream of ridding the country of communist tyranny and bringing democratic reform to China. Their non-violent demonstration perhaps brought a glimmer of hope … until the army moved in. Although martial law was declared on May 20 that year, what caused the army to suddenly go on a killing rampage on June 4? https://www.theepochtimes.com/t-june-4
[image] L: Thousands of Chinese gather on June 2, 1989, in Tiananmen Square around “The Goodness of Democracy,” demanding democracy despite martial law in Beijing. (CATHERINE HENRIETTE/AFP via Getty Images). R: “The Goddess of Democracy,” a 10-meter replica of the Statue of Liberty created by students from an art institute to promote the pro-democracy protest against the Chinese government. (TOSHIO SAKAI/AFP via Getty Images)
-------------------- 1. Mass-Murdered by the Chinese Regime
At least 10,454 people were mass-murdered by the Chinese communist regime on Tiananmen Square, according to an unnamed source from the Chinese State Council. The figure is far greater than the “official” fatality count of 200.
On June 4, 1989, students were gunned down in droves and “mown down” by tanks. “APCs (Armored personnel carriers) then ran over bodies time and time again to make ‘pie’ and remains collected by bulldozer. Remains incinerated and then hosed down drains,” reads part of a declassified statement, which was obtained by Alan Donald, Britain’s ambassador to China in 1989.
https://www.theepochtimes.com/at-least-10000-killed-during-the-tiananmen-squ...
It’s still unconfirmed how many more were massacred during and after the students’ unarmed protest.
[image] Waving banners, high school students march in Beijing streets near Tiananmen Square on May 25, 1989, during a rally to support the pro-democracy protest against the Chinese regime. (CATHERINE HENRIETTE/AFP via Getty Images)
-------------------- 2. The Ringleader Is Still Alive
In addition to rolling over the students with tanks, the army fired high-explosive shells that expand on impact, also known as dum-dum bullets, (forbidden by the Geneva Convention) to kill the students in the most harm-inflicting way possible.
The question remains—what kind of a human being would order such a brutal mass murder of freedom-seeking civilians?
[image] Former leader of the Chinese Communist Party Jiang Zemin (Feng Li/Getty Images)
Former paramount leader of the party Deng Xiaoping was impressed with Jiang Zemin’s iron-fisted proposition to use the army to crack down on the students, and promoted him from Party Chief of Shanghai to General Secretary of the Chinese Communist Party days before the massacre, giving him free rein to do as he liked.
Jiang Zemin, the mastermind behind the massacre, ordered the army to carry out his bloody strategy on June 4. The “gate of heavenly peace” was suddenly turned into hell on Earth.
[image] Taken care of by others, an unidentified foreign journalist (2nd-R) is carried out from the clash site between the army and students on June 4, 1989, near Tiananmen Square. (TOMMY CHENG/AFP via Getty Images)
-------------------- 3. Ruthless Abuse of Power
The Tiananmen Square Massacre was just the start of Jiang’s ruthless abuse of power. He went on to commit the most heinous crimes that couldn’t bear the light of day. In the bloody wake of the massacre, Jiang became Deng’s ideal heir for the next Party Chief, a position Jiang secured in 1993.
Jiang, a Marxist hardliner and ex-senior spy for the KGB’s Far-East Bureau, had only begun to show his true colors with how he dealt with the protesting students and went on to orchestrate even bloodier campaigns. In 1999, Jiang sought to “eradicate” Falun Gong—a popular spiritual practice—after the number of people practicing it rose some 100 million, outnumbering the then 70 million Party members, according to state-run reports at the time. http://faluninfo.net/
[image] Falun Gong practitioners doing the group exercise in Guangzhou, China, in 1998. (Minghui) http://photo.minghui.org/photo/Eindex.htm
Under Jiang’s rule, an adroit misinformation campaign inundated China, turning public opinion against Falun Gong by subjecting the spiritual practice to extreme vilification—including the infamous Tiananmen Square “self-immolation” hoax, which successfully deceived the nation—paving the way for Jiang’s next phase: to forcibly “transform” or “eliminate” the meditators who refused to give up the practice.
In response to Jiang’s genocidal policy, believed to have caused a widespread yet unascertainable amount of state-approved killings, including forced organ harvesting, over 209,000 lawsuits have since been filed against Jiang, making him the most sued dictator in history.
[image] Falun Gong practitioners at a rally in front of the Chinese embassy in New York City on July 3, 2015, to support the global effort to sue Jiang Zemin. (Larry Dye/The Epoch Times)
-------------------- 4. Horrifying Accounts Kept Secret
A Blacklock’s Reporter obtained secret telex messages concerning horrifying accounts of what really happened on Tiananmen Square that day via access-to-information laws.
https://www.theepochtimes.com/cables-reveal-canadian-officials-dark-views-on...
“An old woman knelt in front of soldiers pleading for students; soldiers killed her,” the Canadian embassy in Beijing reported at the time.
Blacklock’s writes: “A boy was seen trying to escape holding a woman with a 2-year old child in a stroller, and was run over by a tank”; “The tank turned around and mashed them up”; “Soldiers fired machine guns until the ammo ran out.”
An unbelievable amount of bullets were fired on civilians at Tiananmen that “they ricocheted inside nearby houses, killing many residents.”
“The embassy described the killings as ‘savage,’” according to Blacklock’s Reporter.
“They are now entering a period of vicious repression during which denunciations and fear of persecution will terrorize the population,” reads another cable obtained.
[image] Chinese onlookers run away as a soldier threatens them with a gun on June 5, 1989, as tanks took position at Beijing’s key intersections next to the diplomatic compound. (CATHERINE HENRIETTE/AFP via Getty Images)
Diplomats added that some 1,000 executions took place following the massacre, but an exact figure is unconfirmed. “It was probably thought that the massacre of a few hundreds or thousands would convince the population not to pursue their protests. It seems to be working,” reads a statement by the diplomats.
The secret British cable, obtained by news website HK01, reveals more detail about the crimes of the 27 Army of Shanxi Province on the day.
https://www.hk01.com/%E7%A4%BE%E6%9C%83%E6%96%B0%E8%81%9E/140801/%E5%85%AD%E...
“27 Army ordered to spare no one and shot wounded SMR soldiers. Four wounded girl students begged for their lives but were bayoneted. A 3-year-old girl was injured but her mother was shot as she went to her aid as were six others who tried.”
“A thousand survivors were told they could escape via Zhengyi Lu but were then mown down by specially prepared M/G (machine gun) positions.”
[image] Ailing student hunger strikers from Beijing University receive first aid treatment under a makeshift tent set up on May 17, 1989, at Tiananmen Square as students enter the 5th day of a marathon hunger strike as part of a mass pro-democracy protest against the Chinese government. (CATHERINE HENRIETTE/AFP via Getty Images)
-------------------- 5. “June 4”: A Highly Taboo Subject in China Today
Despite Hong Kong lighting up every evening on June 4 in an annual candlelight vigil to commemorate the victims of the massacre, Chinese mainlanders across the border are without such freedom of speech. Talking about the Tiananmen Square Massacre, or even mentioning “June 4,” or “6.4,” could have one disappear.
In 2007, Zhang Zhongshun, a lecturer from Yantai University, showed his class a video of the massacre he obtained from an overseas website. He was subsequently jailed for three years by Laishan City Court on Feb. 28, 2008.
[image] Tens of thousands of people hold candles during a vigil in Hong Kong on June 4, 2018, to mark the 29th anniversary of the 1989 Tiananmen crackdown in Beijing. (ANTHONY WALLACE/AFP via Getty Images)
“I imagined that the worst case would just be that the university president would criticize me in front of my colleagues in a meeting. I would not have thought that the communist regime would imprison me,” Zhang told The Epoch Times in an interview after his release from the detention.
https://www.theepochtimes.com/tiananmen-square-massacre-june-4-china-ccp-hum...
“Is it illegal even if I include a historical event into my lecture?” he asked.
[image] A student displays a banner with one of the slogans chanted by the crowd of some 200,000 pouring into Tiananmen Square on April 22, 1989, in Beijing in an attempt to participate in the funeral ceremony of former Chinese Communist Party leader and liberal reformer Hu Yaobang. His death in April triggered an unprecedented wave of pro-democracy demonstrations. The April-June 1989 movement was crushed by Chinese troops in June when army tanks rolled into Tiananmen Square June 4, 1989. (CATHERINE HENRIETTE/AFP via Getty Images)
Who’d dare raise this for discussion in China knowing the consequences? This year marks the 31st anniversary of the Tiananmen Square Massacre. Will the current Chinese leaders redress the issue and bring Jiang Zemin to justice for his litany of crimes? Only time will tell.
On Thu, Jun 04, 2020 at 11:15:46PM +1000, Zig the N.g wrote:
Hey hey, livin it up in Bat Stew land? NO? Well sweriously muh n.gs, you ain't not knowin what yuze missin :)
From the dept. of the CCP writing the Chinese memes on deyselves .. comes ... The CCP - making Tank Man great again :D
One could say "At least the CCP (Chinese Communist Party) has a sense of black humour."
Hong Kong Makes "Disrespecting Chinese National Anthem" A Crime - On Anniversary Of 'Tiananmen Square'
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/hong-kong-makes-disrespecting-chinese...
As if the imposition of a new "National Security" law by the
Politburo Standing Committee wasn't enough of a kick to the face for Hong Kong's pro-democracy movement, the city's own executive council, which over the years has been packed with pro-Beijing lawmakers via anti-democratic tactics, has just made it illegal to "disrespect" the Chinese national anthem.
What's worse: the new law, perhaps the biggest move by the
legislature to suppress political freedoms in the city to date, was passed on the anniversary of "the June 4 incident" - better known in the US as the Tiananmen Square massacre, which WSJ noted is a "poignant day" for Hong Kong.
For the first time, the HK Tiananmen vigil is banned. Anyone calling the crackdown on demonstrators here
“America’s Tiananmen” is being facile.
We’re able to talk honestly about our flawed past and move
the moral needle. For 31 years, China has buried the memory of Tiananmen.
— Melissa Chen (@MsMelChen) June 4, 2020
https://twitter.com/MsMelChen/status/1268385700631793669?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw
Many suspect that the law was passed as part of an effort mandated
by Beijing to crack down on an annual vigil to honor the victims, which the authorities are refusing to allow this year for the first time since the incident occurred.
The vote was held on a poignant day in Hong Kong, where for
the first time in 30 years, authorities refused permission for a mass vigil to mourn the deaths of the pro-democracy students gunned down by Chinese soldiers in Tiananmen Square 31 years ago. Police objected to the vigil, citing social-distancing rules amid the continuing coronavirus pandemic, and threatened to arrest those who violated the ban.
...
There are regimes, and there are regimes.
On Mon, Jun 01, 2020 at 12:34:25PM +1000, Zig the N.g wrote:
When presented with essential propaganda, it is most important to not
find the humorous side, and only treat everything with the utmost seriousness...
So remember y'all, a vote for D is a vote for Xi :D
Xi Takes Up Trump's Challenge Patrick Buchanan via Buchanan.org, https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/xi-takes-trumps-challenge https://buchanan.org/blog/jinping-takes-up-the-us-challenge-138600 .. “China’s been ruled by a brutal, authoritarian regime, a
communist regime since 1949. For several decades, we thought the regime would become more like us through trade, scientific exchanges, diplomatic outreach … (but) that didn’t happen.
.. Who did this to us? We did it to ourselves.
Schlichter: This Election Is Republicans Versus China Kurt Schlichter, op-ed via Townhall.com,
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/schlichter-election-republicans-versus-c...
https://townhall.com/columnists/kurtschlichter/2020/05/28/this-election-is-r...
It’s pretty clear who the commie bastards known for their shoddy
lab practices and their weird fetish for gnawing on pangolins badly want to win in November, and it's not Trump and the Republicans. The Chinese communists want their money’s worth, and they will go all-in for the Democrats who find the chance to hurt Trump at the same time they hurt America too delicious to pass up. Plus, the Dems heartily approve of what Mao’s Pals are doing to freedom-loving Hong Kongers, seeing it as a template for what they would love to do to freedom-loving us.
We need to understand and accept that a vote for anyone with a
“D” is a vote for Xi.
...
So, I found a video from the massacre that is well-known to be identified by AI censorship algorithms in china and blocked. I have put it on the BSV blockchain permanently and it can be downloaded for now at https://caringneed.org:8443/1HAv8n5E6wXEaayViqeFhs9bdWNyLK9LTU/archive/1989-... . It uses the D:// protocol to store the data on-chain -- the first path entry in the url is the address the transactions are sent from onchain. I imagine this video might not be retrievable in china from the web unless the content were encrypted. The blockchain client may be able to download the data but I'm not aware of existing tools to extract it, and I don't know if the p2p protocol encrypts its traffic. On Sat, Jun 6, 2020, 9:20 AM Karl <gmkarl@gmail.com> wrote:
Thank you for sharing this information.
Found these bits missing: - Despite a new order banning the practice, activists held a vigil in memorial of the event this year, with thousands attending. From same news site. They may need support to be able to continue this in furthet years. - There is video and declassified information on the event that may be precious to Chinese activists if ever lost. From the linked articles. I do not know where to find these things. - None of the decision makers from the massacre have formal decision-making positions as powerful as during it, but a couple still have presence on the world stage. From wikipedia. I do not support blaming events on those who order them, preferring to look for underlying cultural and systems causes. - The article puts democracy and communism in opposition. The intensity of the historical event sustains this deception. There is nothing impossible about democratic communism or tyrannical capitalism. This cultural confusion is partially relevence to Tiananmen 6/4 1989 that we hold today.
On the 4th of June, 1989, the People's Liberation Army isolated an immense protest for democratic freedoms and not only machine-gunned every one of their civilians within that area of the city, but steamrolled them after machine gunning them, incinerated the people after they were mashed flat, and hosed them down the drains.
This event is heavily undiscussed in China due to harm to those who discuss it.
To be clear, that is true terrorism: instilling unimaginable horrifying fear around an event of importance, that nobody seems to offer validation around.
This sounds like a meaningful unpredictability that activists and enforcers in China handle all the time.
It was in the past, but we'd better make sure some day that the video is on a blockchain, to show people that that can be done in the future.
On Fri, Jun 5, 2020, 1:01 AM Zenaan Harkness <zen@freedbms.net> wrote:
Some history, folks:
The June 4 Tiananmen Square Massacre: Five Truths That Still Aren't Widely Known
https://www.theepochtimes.com/the-june-4-tiananmen-square-massacre-five-trut...
https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/june-4-tiananmen-square-massacre-five-trut...
Following the sudden death of a beloved political reformer, Hu Yaobang, 200,000 students gathered at Tiananmen Square on April 22, 1989, to await the hearse carrying Hu’s body - but it never arrived. The mass of students were angered, and their burning desire for freedom could be contained no more. https://www.theepochtimes.com/t-tiananmen-square
For the next few weeks, Tiananmen Square was occupied by these student protesters, who aimed at making reality their dream of ridding the country of communist tyranny and bringing democratic reform to China. Their non-violent demonstration perhaps brought a glimmer of hope … until the army moved in. Although martial law was declared on May 20 that year, what caused the army to suddenly go on a killing rampage on June 4? https://www.theepochtimes.com/t-june-4
[image] L: Thousands of Chinese gather on June 2, 1989, in Tiananmen Square around “The Goodness of Democracy,” demanding democracy despite martial law in Beijing. (CATHERINE HENRIETTE/AFP via Getty Images). R: “The Goddess of Democracy,” a 10-meter replica of the Statue of Liberty created by students from an art institute to promote the pro-democracy protest against the Chinese government. (TOSHIO SAKAI/AFP via Getty Images)
-------------------- 1. Mass-Murdered by the Chinese Regime
At least 10,454 people were mass-murdered by the Chinese communist regime on Tiananmen Square, according to an unnamed source from the Chinese State Council. The figure is far greater than the “official” fatality count of 200.
On June 4, 1989, students were gunned down in droves and “mown down” by tanks. “APCs (Armored personnel carriers) then ran over bodies time and time again to make ‘pie’ and remains collected by bulldozer. Remains incinerated and then hosed down drains,” reads part of a declassified statement, which was obtained by Alan Donald, Britain’s ambassador to China in 1989.
https://www.theepochtimes.com/at-least-10000-killed-during-the-tiananmen-squ...
It’s still unconfirmed how many more were massacred during and after the students’ unarmed protest.
[image] Waving banners, high school students march in Beijing streets near Tiananmen Square on May 25, 1989, during a rally to support the pro-democracy protest against the Chinese regime. (CATHERINE HENRIETTE/AFP via Getty Images)
-------------------- 2. The Ringleader Is Still Alive
In addition to rolling over the students with tanks, the army fired high-explosive shells that expand on impact, also known as dum-dum bullets, (forbidden by the Geneva Convention) to kill the students in the most harm-inflicting way possible.
The question remains—what kind of a human being would order such a brutal mass murder of freedom-seeking civilians?
[image] Former leader of the Chinese Communist Party Jiang Zemin (Feng Li/Getty Images)
Former paramount leader of the party Deng Xiaoping was impressed with Jiang Zemin’s iron-fisted proposition to use the army to crack down on the students, and promoted him from Party Chief of Shanghai to General Secretary of the Chinese Communist Party days before the massacre, giving him free rein to do as he liked.
Jiang Zemin, the mastermind behind the massacre, ordered the army to carry out his bloody strategy on June 4. The “gate of heavenly peace” was suddenly turned into hell on Earth.
[image] Taken care of by others, an unidentified foreign journalist (2nd-R) is carried out from the clash site between the army and students on June 4, 1989, near Tiananmen Square. (TOMMY CHENG/AFP via Getty Images)
-------------------- 3. Ruthless Abuse of Power
The Tiananmen Square Massacre was just the start of Jiang’s ruthless abuse of power. He went on to commit the most heinous crimes that couldn’t bear the light of day. In the bloody wake of the massacre, Jiang became Deng’s ideal heir for the next Party Chief, a position Jiang secured in 1993.
Jiang, a Marxist hardliner and ex-senior spy for the KGB’s Far-East Bureau, had only begun to show his true colors with how he dealt with the protesting students and went on to orchestrate even bloodier campaigns. In 1999, Jiang sought to “eradicate” Falun Gong—a popular spiritual practice—after the number of people practicing it rose some 100 million, outnumbering the then 70 million Party members, according to state-run reports at the time. http://faluninfo.net/
[image] Falun Gong practitioners doing the group exercise in Guangzhou, China, in 1998. (Minghui) http://photo.minghui.org/photo/Eindex.htm
Under Jiang’s rule, an adroit misinformation campaign inundated China, turning public opinion against Falun Gong by subjecting the spiritual practice to extreme vilification—including the infamous Tiananmen Square “self-immolation” hoax, which successfully deceived the nation—paving the way for Jiang’s next phase: to forcibly “transform” or “eliminate” the meditators who refused to give up the practice.
In response to Jiang’s genocidal policy, believed to have caused a widespread yet unascertainable amount of state-approved killings, including forced organ harvesting, over 209,000 lawsuits have since been filed against Jiang, making him the most sued dictator in history.
[image] Falun Gong practitioners at a rally in front of the Chinese embassy in New York City on July 3, 2015, to support the global effort to sue Jiang Zemin. (Larry Dye/The Epoch Times)
-------------------- 4. Horrifying Accounts Kept Secret
A Blacklock’s Reporter obtained secret telex messages concerning horrifying accounts of what really happened on Tiananmen Square that day via access-to-information laws.
https://www.theepochtimes.com/cables-reveal-canadian-officials-dark-views-on...
“An old woman knelt in front of soldiers pleading for students; soldiers killed her,” the Canadian embassy in Beijing reported at the time.
Blacklock’s writes: “A boy was seen trying to escape holding a woman with a 2-year old child in a stroller, and was run over by a tank”; “The tank turned around and mashed them up”; “Soldiers fired machine guns until the ammo ran out.”
An unbelievable amount of bullets were fired on civilians at Tiananmen that “they ricocheted inside nearby houses, killing many residents.”
“The embassy described the killings as ‘savage,’” according to Blacklock’s Reporter.
“They are now entering a period of vicious repression during which denunciations and fear of persecution will terrorize the population,” reads another cable obtained.
[image] Chinese onlookers run away as a soldier threatens them with a gun on June 5, 1989, as tanks took position at Beijing’s key intersections next to the diplomatic compound. (CATHERINE HENRIETTE/AFP via Getty Images)
Diplomats added that some 1,000 executions took place following the massacre, but an exact figure is unconfirmed. “It was probably thought that the massacre of a few hundreds or thousands would convince the population not to pursue their protests. It seems to be working,” reads a statement by the diplomats.
The secret British cable, obtained by news website HK01, reveals more detail about the crimes of the 27 Army of Shanxi Province on the day.
https://www.hk01.com/%E7%A4%BE%E6%9C%83%E6%96%B0%E8%81%9E/140801/%E5%85%AD%E...
“27 Army ordered to spare no one and shot wounded SMR soldiers. Four wounded girl students begged for their lives but were bayoneted. A 3-year-old girl was injured but her mother was shot as she went to her aid as were six others who tried.”
“A thousand survivors were told they could escape via Zhengyi Lu but were then mown down by specially prepared M/G (machine gun) positions.”
[image] Ailing student hunger strikers from Beijing University receive first aid treatment under a makeshift tent set up on May 17, 1989, at Tiananmen Square as students enter the 5th day of a marathon hunger strike as part of a mass pro-democracy protest against the Chinese government. (CATHERINE HENRIETTE/AFP via Getty Images)
-------------------- 5. “June 4”: A Highly Taboo Subject in China Today
Despite Hong Kong lighting up every evening on June 4 in an annual candlelight vigil to commemorate the victims of the massacre, Chinese mainlanders across the border are without such freedom of speech. Talking about the Tiananmen Square Massacre, or even mentioning “June 4,” or “6.4,” could have one disappear.
In 2007, Zhang Zhongshun, a lecturer from Yantai University, showed his class a video of the massacre he obtained from an overseas website. He was subsequently jailed for three years by Laishan City Court on Feb. 28, 2008.
[image] Tens of thousands of people hold candles during a vigil in Hong Kong on June 4, 2018, to mark the 29th anniversary of the 1989 Tiananmen crackdown in Beijing. (ANTHONY WALLACE/AFP via Getty Images)
“I imagined that the worst case would just be that the university president would criticize me in front of my colleagues in a meeting. I would not have thought that the communist regime would imprison me,” Zhang told The Epoch Times in an interview after his release from the detention.
https://www.theepochtimes.com/tiananmen-square-massacre-june-4-china-ccp-hum...
“Is it illegal even if I include a historical event into my lecture?” he asked.
[image] A student displays a banner with one of the slogans chanted by the crowd of some 200,000 pouring into Tiananmen Square on April 22, 1989, in Beijing in an attempt to participate in the funeral ceremony of former Chinese Communist Party leader and liberal reformer Hu Yaobang. His death in April triggered an unprecedented wave of pro-democracy demonstrations. The April-June 1989 movement was crushed by Chinese troops in June when army tanks rolled into Tiananmen Square June 4, 1989. (CATHERINE HENRIETTE/AFP via Getty Images)
Who’d dare raise this for discussion in China knowing the consequences? This year marks the 31st anniversary of the Tiananmen Square Massacre. Will the current Chinese leaders redress the issue and bring Jiang Zemin to justice for his litany of crimes? Only time will tell.
On Thu, Jun 04, 2020 at 11:15:46PM +1000, Zig the N.g wrote:
Hey hey, livin it up in Bat Stew land? NO? Well sweriously muh n.gs, you ain't not knowin what yuze missin :)
From the dept. of the CCP writing the Chinese memes on deyselves .. comes ... The CCP - making Tank Man great again :D
One could say "At least the CCP (Chinese Communist Party) has a sense of black humour."
Hong Kong Makes "Disrespecting Chinese National Anthem" A Crime - On Anniversary Of 'Tiananmen Square'
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/hong-kong-makes-disrespecting-chinese...
As if the imposition of a new "National Security" law by the
Politburo Standing Committee wasn't enough of a kick to the face for Hong Kong's pro-democracy movement, the city's own executive council, which over the years has been packed with pro-Beijing lawmakers via anti-democratic tactics, has just made it illegal to "disrespect" the Chinese national anthem.
What's worse: the new law, perhaps the biggest move by the
legislature to suppress political freedoms in the city to date, was passed on the anniversary of "the June 4 incident" - better known in the US as the Tiananmen Square massacre, which WSJ noted is a "poignant day" for Hong Kong.
For the first time, the HK Tiananmen vigil is banned. Anyone calling the crackdown on demonstrators here
“America’s Tiananmen” is being facile.
We’re able to talk honestly about our flawed past and move
the moral needle. For 31 years, China has buried the memory of Tiananmen.
— Melissa Chen (@MsMelChen) June 4, 2020
https://twitter.com/MsMelChen/status/1268385700631793669?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw
Many suspect that the law was passed as part of an effort
mandated by Beijing to crack down on an annual vigil to honor the victims, which the authorities are refusing to allow this year for the first time since the incident occurred.
The vote was held on a poignant day in Hong Kong, where for
the first time in 30 years, authorities refused permission for a mass vigil to mourn the deaths of the pro-democracy students gunned down by Chinese soldiers in Tiananmen Square 31 years ago. Police objected to the vigil, citing social-distancing rules amid the continuing coronavirus pandemic, and threatened to arrest those who violated the ban.
...
There are regimes, and there are regimes.
On Mon, Jun 01, 2020 at 12:34:25PM +1000, Zig the N.g wrote:
When presented with essential propaganda, it is most important to not
So remember y'all, a vote for D is a vote for Xi :D
Xi Takes Up Trump's Challenge Patrick Buchanan via Buchanan.org, https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/xi-takes-trumps-challenge https://buchanan.org/blog/jinping-takes-up-the-us-challenge-138600 .. “China’s been ruled by a brutal, authoritarian regime, a
communist regime since 1949. For several decades, we thought the regime would become more like us through trade, scientific exchanges, diplomatic outreach … (but) that didn’t happen.
.. Who did this to us? We did it to ourselves.
Schlichter: This Election Is Republicans Versus China Kurt Schlichter, op-ed via Townhall.com,
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/schlichter-election-republicans-versus-c...
https://townhall.com/columnists/kurtschlichter/2020/05/28/this-election-is-r...
It’s pretty clear who the commie bastards known for their
shoddy lab practices and their weird fetish for gnawing on pangolins badly want to win in November, and it's not Trump and the Republicans. The Chinese communists want their money’s worth, and they will go all-in for
find the humorous side, and only treat everything with the utmost seriousness... the Democrats who find the chance to hurt Trump at the same time they hurt America too delicious to pass up. Plus, the Dems heartily approve of what Mao’s Pals are doing to freedom-loving Hong Kongers, seeing it as a template for what they would love to do to freedom-loving us.
We need to understand and accept that a vote for anyone with a
“D” is a vote for Xi.
...
On "Unconditional" Military Aid To Israel, Biden-Harris Far To The Right Even Of Bush Admin Brett Wilkins via CommonDreams.org, https://www.commondreams.org/news/2020/08/27/citing-unbreakable-commitment-h... https://www.zerohedge.com/political/unconditional-military-aid-israel-biden-... Democratic vice presidential nominee Sen. Kamala Harris told a group of Jewish donors Wednesday that a Joe Biden White House would not place any conditions on military aid to Israel, and that a Biden-Harris administration would continue the "unprecedented" military and intelligence cooperation with the Jewish state the country received from the Obama administration. Haartez reports the California Democrat's comments came during a virtual campaign call with donors in which she assured attendees that "Joe has made it clear he will not tie security assistance to political decisions Israel makes," adding that she "couldn't agree more" with that policy. https://www.haaretz.com/us-news/.premium-kamala-harris-says-biden-white-hous... https://www.haaretz.com/us-news/kamala-harris-will-speak-to-jewish-community... "The Biden-Harris administration will sustain our unbreakable commitment to Israel's security," Harris reportedly said, "including the unprecedented military and intelligence cooperation pioneered during the Obama administration and guarantee that Israel will always maintain its qualitative military edge." The Trump administration frequently touts the $3.8 billion in annual U.S. military aid to Israel as proof of its commitment to Israel's security. However, the record $38 billion, 10-year aid package was drafted and approved in 2016, during Obama's tenure. The White House at the time called the grant a "reflection of President Obama's unshakeable commitment to Israel's security." https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-israel-statement/u-s-israel-sign-38-b... https://obamawhitehouse.archives.gov/the-press-office/2016/09/14/fact-sheet-... The Obama administration was often criticized by international human rights advocates for its unconditional support for Israel, which had launched three devastating wars against Gaza in 2008, 2012, and 2014, https://honestreporting.com/israels-gaza-wars/ in which thousands of civilians were killed. Israel also faced growing international condemnation for its ongoing illegal occupation and settler colonization of the West Bank and East Jerusalem, https://www.amnestyusa.org/lets-be-clear-israels-long-running-settlement-pol... as well as what prominent international critics have called ethnic cleansing and apartheid in the occupied Palestinian territories. https://www.middleeasteye.net/opinion/israels-ethnic-cleansing-was-not-histo... https://www.haaretz.com/1.4938644 During the 2020 Democratic presidential primaries, there was an historic shift among candidates' stances regarding Israel. For the first time, not only progressive candidates like Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) and Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.), but also more moderate ones like former South Bend, Indiana Mayor Pete Buttigieg said they would consider attaching conditions to Israel aid. https://www.timesofisrael.com/harris-tells-jewish-supporters-biden-will-not-... Biden has called the idea of conditioning aid to Israel "absolutely outrageous." https://www.haaretz.com/us-news/.premium--1.8064328 One critic noted that the Biden-Harris stance falls "far to the right of" former President George H.W. Bush, who initially refused to approve a $10 billion loan to Israel over settlement expansion before ultimately backing down. https://www.haaretz.com/us-news/.premium-how-an-ultimatum-from-president-geo... Unconditional military aid to Israel puts Biden/Harris far to the right of notorious peacenik *checks notes* George H. W. Bush https://t.co/G7GDnFQf0s pic.twitter.com/CVV4BDjsvy — Dan Cohen (@dancohen3000) August 27, 2020 Harris has long been a supporter of Israel. In 2017, she met with Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu one day after he announced a plan to expel tens of thousands of African migrants, who he called "infiltrators" who threatened the country's "Jewish character," from Israel. https://thegrayzone.com/2020/08/11/netanyahu-top-cop-kamala-harris-israel-ra... In Congress, progressive lawmakers including Reps. Ilhan Omar (D-Minn.), Rashida Tlaib (D-Mich.) and moderates including Reps. Betty McCollum (D-Minn.) and Sen. Chris Van Hollen (D-Md.) have sought to block U.S. aid from funding Israel's proposed annexation of large portions of the West Bank. https://www.minnpost.com/national/2019/08/rep-betty-mccollum-has-become-one-... https://www.vanhollen.senate.gov/news/press-releases/van-hollen-speaks-on-is... At the same time, however, even some progressive Democratic lawmakers—most notably Reps. Ayanna Pressley (D-Mass.) and Ro Khanna (D-Calif.)—joined their Republican and moderate Democratic colleagues in supporting a bill that condemned the peaceful Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions (BDS) movement for Palestinian human rights. https://www.commondreams.org/news/2019/07/25/progressive-except-palestine-kh... Differences between the Obama and Trump administration on relations with Israel are often more stylistic than substantive. While right-wing politicians and pundits made much of some very public spats between Obama and Netanyahu, there was never any serious doubt that the U.S. would continue to staunchly support its closest Middle Eastern ally. https://www.foxnews.com/politics/reports-netanyahu-humiliated-by-obama-snub Today I met with Senator @KamalaHarris of California. We discussed the potential for deepening cooperation in water management, agriculture, cyber security, and more. I expressed my deep appreciation for America's commitment to Israel's security. 🇮🇱🇺🇸 pic.twitter.com/L5qdcgwWG0 — Benjamin Netanyahu (@netanyahu) November 20, 2017 It is true that the Trump administration has been exceptionally accommodating toward Israel, notably by moving the US Embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem, and by withdrawing from the Iran nuclear deal. However, the current administration has continued its predecessors' largely uncritical support for Israel, no matter how many human rights violations it commits, and regardless of world opinion. https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-statements/president-donald-j-trump-kee... https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/08/world/middleeast/trump-iran-nuclear-deal.... Both the Obama and Trump administrations stood nearly alone in the world in vetoing United Nations resolutions condemning Israel's illegal colonization, although Obama did abstain from a vote on settlements shortly before leaving office. https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/43-times-us-has-used-veto-power-against-u... https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/dec/23/us-abstention-allows-un-to-dem... Speaking of Iran, Harris told the Jewish donors that a Biden administration "will not allow Iran to obtain a nuclear weapon," an apparently superfluous statement given that U.S. and Israel intelligence officials have said since the early 2000s that Tehran is not seeking to build or acquire such weapons. Biden has signaled that he is interested in renegotiating the nuclear deal, with which all parties, including the Trump administration, agreed Iran was compliant. https://www.reuters.com/article/us-iran-usa-nuclear/special-report-intel-sho... https://nationalinterest.org/blog/skeptics/will-joe-biden-go-back-iran-deal-... https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/donald-trump-iran-nucle... "We will work with our allies... to strengthen and extend the Iran deal and push back against Iran's other destabilizing actions," Harris told the donors on the Wednesday call, which came as Israel continued its near-daily air and artillery attacks on what it says are Hamas targets in Gaza in repsonse to incendiary balloon attacks that have sparked wildfires in southern Israel. https://www.commondreams.org/news/2020/08/25/israeli-bombing-gaza-continues-... Remember - a vote for D, is a vote for Xi. On Fri, Jun 05, 2020 at 03:00:48PM +1000, Zenaan Harkness wrote:
Some history, folks:
The June 4 Tiananmen Square Massacre: Five Truths That Still Aren't Widely Known https://www.theepochtimes.com/the-june-4-tiananmen-square-massacre-five-trut... https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/june-4-tiananmen-square-massacre-five-trut...
Following the sudden death of a beloved political reformer, Hu Yaobang, 200,000 students gathered at Tiananmen Square on April 22, 1989, to await the hearse carrying Hu’s body - but it never arrived. The mass of students were angered, and their burning desire for freedom could be contained no more. https://www.theepochtimes.com/t-tiananmen-square
For the next few weeks, Tiananmen Square was occupied by these student protesters, who aimed at making reality their dream of ridding the country of communist tyranny and bringing democratic reform to China. Their non-violent demonstration perhaps brought a glimmer of hope … until the army moved in. Although martial law was declared on May 20 that year, what caused the army to suddenly go on a killing rampage on June 4? https://www.theepochtimes.com/t-june-4
[image] L: Thousands of Chinese gather on June 2, 1989, in Tiananmen Square around “The Goodness of Democracy,” demanding democracy despite martial law in Beijing. (CATHERINE HENRIETTE/AFP via Getty Images). R: “The Goddess of Democracy,” a 10-meter replica of the Statue of Liberty created by students from an art institute to promote the pro-democracy protest against the Chinese government. (TOSHIO SAKAI/AFP via Getty Images)
-------------------- 1. Mass-Murdered by the Chinese Regime
At least 10,454 people were mass-murdered by the Chinese communist regime on Tiananmen Square, according to an unnamed source from the Chinese State Council. The figure is far greater than the “official” fatality count of 200.
On June 4, 1989, students were gunned down in droves and “mown down” by tanks. “APCs (Armored personnel carriers) then ran over bodies time and time again to make ‘pie’ and remains collected by bulldozer. Remains incinerated and then hosed down drains,” reads part of a declassified statement, which was obtained by Alan Donald, Britain’s ambassador to China in 1989. https://www.theepochtimes.com/at-least-10000-killed-during-the-tiananmen-squ...
It’s still unconfirmed how many more were massacred during and after the students’ unarmed protest.
[image] Waving banners, high school students march in Beijing streets near Tiananmen Square on May 25, 1989, during a rally to support the pro-democracy protest against the Chinese regime. (CATHERINE HENRIETTE/AFP via Getty Images)
-------------------- 2. The Ringleader Is Still Alive
In addition to rolling over the students with tanks, the army fired high-explosive shells that expand on impact, also known as dum-dum bullets, (forbidden by the Geneva Convention) to kill the students in the most harm-inflicting way possible.
The question remains—what kind of a human being would order such a brutal mass murder of freedom-seeking civilians?
[image] Former leader of the Chinese Communist Party Jiang Zemin (Feng Li/Getty Images)
Former paramount leader of the party Deng Xiaoping was impressed with Jiang Zemin’s iron-fisted proposition to use the army to crack down on the students, and promoted him from Party Chief of Shanghai to General Secretary of the Chinese Communist Party days before the massacre, giving him free rein to do as he liked.
Jiang Zemin, the mastermind behind the massacre, ordered the army to carry out his bloody strategy on June 4. The “gate of heavenly peace” was suddenly turned into hell on Earth.
[image] Taken care of by others, an unidentified foreign journalist (2nd-R) is carried out from the clash site between the army and students on June 4, 1989, near Tiananmen Square. (TOMMY CHENG/AFP via Getty Images)
-------------------- 3. Ruthless Abuse of Power
The Tiananmen Square Massacre was just the start of Jiang’s ruthless abuse of power. He went on to commit the most heinous crimes that couldn’t bear the light of day. In the bloody wake of the massacre, Jiang became Deng’s ideal heir for the next Party Chief, a position Jiang secured in 1993.
Jiang, a Marxist hardliner and ex-senior spy for the KGB’s Far-East Bureau, had only begun to show his true colors with how he dealt with the protesting students and went on to orchestrate even bloodier campaigns. In 1999, Jiang sought to “eradicate” Falun Gong—a popular spiritual practice—after the number of people practicing it rose some 100 million, outnumbering the then 70 million Party members, according to state-run reports at the time. http://faluninfo.net/
[image] Falun Gong practitioners doing the group exercise in Guangzhou, China, in 1998. (Minghui) http://photo.minghui.org/photo/Eindex.htm
Under Jiang’s rule, an adroit misinformation campaign inundated China, turning public opinion against Falun Gong by subjecting the spiritual practice to extreme vilification—including the infamous Tiananmen Square “self-immolation” hoax, which successfully deceived the nation—paving the way for Jiang’s next phase: to forcibly “transform” or “eliminate” the meditators who refused to give up the practice.
In response to Jiang’s genocidal policy, believed to have caused a widespread yet unascertainable amount of state-approved killings, including forced organ harvesting, over 209,000 lawsuits have since been filed against Jiang, making him the most sued dictator in history.
[image] Falun Gong practitioners at a rally in front of the Chinese embassy in New York City on July 3, 2015, to support the global effort to sue Jiang Zemin. (Larry Dye/The Epoch Times)
-------------------- 4. Horrifying Accounts Kept Secret
A Blacklock’s Reporter obtained secret telex messages concerning horrifying accounts of what really happened on Tiananmen Square that day via access-to-information laws. https://www.theepochtimes.com/cables-reveal-canadian-officials-dark-views-on...
“An old woman knelt in front of soldiers pleading for students; soldiers killed her,” the Canadian embassy in Beijing reported at the time.
Blacklock’s writes: “A boy was seen trying to escape holding a woman with a 2-year old child in a stroller, and was run over by a tank”; “The tank turned around and mashed them up”; “Soldiers fired machine guns until the ammo ran out.”
An unbelievable amount of bullets were fired on civilians at Tiananmen that “they ricocheted inside nearby houses, killing many residents.”
“The embassy described the killings as ‘savage,’” according to Blacklock’s Reporter.
“They are now entering a period of vicious repression during which denunciations and fear of persecution will terrorize the population,” reads another cable obtained.
[image] Chinese onlookers run away as a soldier threatens them with a gun on June 5, 1989, as tanks took position at Beijing’s key intersections next to the diplomatic compound. (CATHERINE HENRIETTE/AFP via Getty Images)
Diplomats added that some 1,000 executions took place following the massacre, but an exact figure is unconfirmed. “It was probably thought that the massacre of a few hundreds or thousands would convince the population not to pursue their protests. It seems to be working,” reads a statement by the diplomats.
The secret British cable, obtained by news website HK01, reveals more detail about the crimes of the 27 Army of Shanxi Province on the day. https://www.hk01.com/%E7%A4%BE%E6%9C%83%E6%96%B0%E8%81%9E/140801/%E5%85%AD%E...
“27 Army ordered to spare no one and shot wounded SMR soldiers. Four wounded girl students begged for their lives but were bayoneted. A 3-year-old girl was injured but her mother was shot as she went to her aid as were six others who tried.”
“A thousand survivors were told they could escape via Zhengyi Lu but were then mown down by specially prepared M/G (machine gun) positions.”
[image] Ailing student hunger strikers from Beijing University receive first aid treatment under a makeshift tent set up on May 17, 1989, at Tiananmen Square as students enter the 5th day of a marathon hunger strike as part of a mass pro-democracy protest against the Chinese government. (CATHERINE HENRIETTE/AFP via Getty Images)
-------------------- 5. “June 4”: A Highly Taboo Subject in China Today
Despite Hong Kong lighting up every evening on June 4 in an annual candlelight vigil to commemorate the victims of the massacre, Chinese mainlanders across the border are without such freedom of speech. Talking about the Tiananmen Square Massacre, or even mentioning “June 4,” or “6.4,” could have one disappear.
In 2007, Zhang Zhongshun, a lecturer from Yantai University, showed his class a video of the massacre he obtained from an overseas website. He was subsequently jailed for three years by Laishan City Court on Feb. 28, 2008.
[image] Tens of thousands of people hold candles during a vigil in Hong Kong on June 4, 2018, to mark the 29th anniversary of the 1989 Tiananmen crackdown in Beijing. (ANTHONY WALLACE/AFP via Getty Images)
“I imagined that the worst case would just be that the university president would criticize me in front of my colleagues in a meeting. I would not have thought that the communist regime would imprison me,” Zhang told The Epoch Times in an interview after his release from the detention. https://www.theepochtimes.com/tiananmen-square-massacre-june-4-china-ccp-hum...
“Is it illegal even if I include a historical event into my lecture?” he asked.
[image] A student displays a banner with one of the slogans chanted by the crowd of some 200,000 pouring into Tiananmen Square on April 22, 1989, in Beijing in an attempt to participate in the funeral ceremony of former Chinese Communist Party leader and liberal reformer Hu Yaobang. His death in April triggered an unprecedented wave of pro-democracy demonstrations. The April-June 1989 movement was crushed by Chinese troops in June when army tanks rolled into Tiananmen Square June 4, 1989. (CATHERINE HENRIETTE/AFP via Getty Images)
Who’d dare raise this for discussion in China knowing the consequences? This year marks the 31st anniversary of the Tiananmen Square Massacre. Will the current Chinese leaders redress the issue and bring Jiang Zemin to justice for his litany of crimes? Only time will tell.
On Thu, Jun 04, 2020 at 11:15:46PM +1000, Zig the N.g wrote:
Hey hey, livin it up in Bat Stew land? NO? Well sweriously muh n.gs, you ain't not knowin what yuze missin :)
From the dept. of the CCP writing the Chinese memes on deyselves .. comes ... The CCP - making Tank Man great again :D
One could say "At least the CCP (Chinese Communist Party) has a sense of black humour."
Hong Kong Makes "Disrespecting Chinese National Anthem" A Crime - On Anniversary Of 'Tiananmen Square' https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/hong-kong-makes-disrespecting-chinese...
As if the imposition of a new "National Security" law by the Politburo Standing Committee wasn't enough of a kick to the face for Hong Kong's pro-democracy movement, the city's own executive council, which over the years has been packed with pro-Beijing lawmakers via anti-democratic tactics, has just made it illegal to "disrespect" the Chinese national anthem.
What's worse: the new law, perhaps the biggest move by the legislature to suppress political freedoms in the city to date, was passed on the anniversary of "the June 4 incident" - better known in the US as the Tiananmen Square massacre, which WSJ noted is a "poignant day" for Hong Kong.
For the first time, the HK Tiananmen vigil is banned. Anyone calling the crackdown on demonstrators here “America’s Tiananmen” is being facile. We’re able to talk honestly about our flawed past and move the moral needle. For 31 years, China has buried the memory of Tiananmen. — Melissa Chen (@MsMelChen) June 4, 2020 https://twitter.com/MsMelChen/status/1268385700631793669?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw
Many suspect that the law was passed as part of an effort mandated by Beijing to crack down on an annual vigil to honor the victims, which the authorities are refusing to allow this year for the first time since the incident occurred.
The vote was held on a poignant day in Hong Kong, where for the first time in 30 years, authorities refused permission for a mass vigil to mourn the deaths of the pro-democracy students gunned down by Chinese soldiers in Tiananmen Square 31 years ago. Police objected to the vigil, citing social-distancing rules amid the continuing coronavirus pandemic, and threatened to arrest those who violated the ban. ...
There are regimes, and there are regimes.
On Mon, Jun 01, 2020 at 12:34:25PM +1000, Zig the N.g wrote:
When presented with essential propaganda, it is most important to not find the humorous side, and only treat everything with the utmost seriousness...
So remember y'all, a vote for D is a vote for Xi :D
Xi Takes Up Trump's Challenge Patrick Buchanan via Buchanan.org, https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/xi-takes-trumps-challenge https://buchanan.org/blog/jinping-takes-up-the-us-challenge-138600 .. “China’s been ruled by a brutal, authoritarian regime, a communist regime since 1949. For several decades, we thought the regime would become more like us through trade, scientific exchanges, diplomatic outreach … (but) that didn’t happen. .. Who did this to us? We did it to ourselves.
Schlichter: This Election Is Republicans Versus China Kurt Schlichter, op-ed via Townhall.com, https://www.zerohedge.com/political/schlichter-election-republicans-versus-c... https://townhall.com/columnists/kurtschlichter/2020/05/28/this-election-is-r...
It’s pretty clear who the commie bastards known for their shoddy lab practices and their weird fetish for gnawing on pangolins badly want to win in November, and it's not Trump and the Republicans. The Chinese communists want their money’s worth, and they will go all-in for the Democrats who find the chance to hurt Trump at the same time they hurt America too delicious to pass up. Plus, the Dems heartily approve of what Mao’s Pals are doing to freedom-loving Hong Kongers, seeing it as a template for what they would love to do to freedom-loving us.
We need to understand and accept that a vote for anyone with a “D” is a vote for Xi. ...
On Sun, Apr 12, 2020 at 03:50:29PM +1000, Zenaan Harkness wrote:
On Sun, Apr 12, 2020 at 11:44:05AM +1000, Zenaan Harkness wrote:
China ought be held to return Tibet to the Tibetans, under the authority of the Dalai Llama, as part of the reparations for the China virus/ Wuhan flu.
Coronavirus response in Tibet: arrests, crackdown, religious repression https://savetibet.org/coronavirus-response-in-tibet-arrests-crackdown-religi... https://tibet.net/coronavirus-response-in-tibet-arrests-crackdown-religious-... .. - China has responded to the spread of coronavirus to Tibet by cracking down on people who post information online about the deadly illness, including one man who was detained by police simply for encouraging his contacts to recite prayers to ward off infection. - Chinese authorities also announced the cancellation of public religious festivals and prayer ceremonies for “Losar,” the Tibetan New Year, which begins Feb. 24. - In the wake of the outbreak, the Chinese government has activated its network of military and Chinese Community Party cadres to spread propaganda about protecting “stability”—a euphemism for the suppression of free speech and the enforcement of compliance with CCP policies. - Despite the spread of the virus, China’s leadership has chosen to move ahead with a new campaign in Tibet described as sending a “million police to 10 million homes.” The intention is to ensure “grassroots” integration of security forces in local communities. The campaign began in January and will continue throughout the year. - In contrast to the Chinese government’s heavy-handed response, the Tibetan people have reacted to the outbreak of coronavirus with compassion. Monasteries have donated funds for the purchase of facemasks and goggles, and Tibetans lit butter lamps in honour of the Chinese whistleblower who warned about the virus and subsequently died from it.
https://www.yandex.com/search/?text=coronavirus%20in%20tibet&lr=10145
So China's behaviour through all this Chinese Wuhan coronavirus COVID-19 brouhaha, from any view of "human lives matter", has been utterly atrocious.
But what does one expect from the CCP/ Chinese communist regime?
This awareness now rising in the West, leads to a looming "100 Years of Shame" for the Chinese.
Little things such as setting right the Chinese wrongs in Tibet and giving Tibetans back their country, may go part of the way to a future where China is able to build a moral standing in the world. Until then, it is a certainty we shall, sadly, see the coming Century Of Shame for the Chinese people.
This will not be "humiliation" since it is not caused by other nations, but by the behaviour of the Chinese Communist Party members themselves, and the consequences therefrom.
Tibetan slaughter by Chinese https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-GDPtw7lqAA Lhasa, Tibet - No comment https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzi-4OG6QsE slaughter in tibet https://www.yandex.com/search/?text=slaughter%20in%20tibet&lr=10145 Appalling euphemism for China’s slaughter in Tibet https://www.nationthailand.com/lifestyle/30365771 It is surely immaterial whether or not Tibet was an independent state when considering the appalling death and destruction carried out there by the Communist Chinese authorities. Prasan Stianrapapongs describes the damaging or total destruction of nearly all of Tibet’s 6,000 Buddhist temples and the slaughter or imprisonment of thousands of monks and nuns as part of a concerted effort to eliminate traditional Tibetan culture and beliefs as “modern reorganisation”. This must surely rank as a strong contender for the euphemism of the century. Would he cast such a tolerant eye on similar policies here in Thailand? I hardly think so. The Body Count https://info-buddhism.com/Body_Count-Mass_Death_in_Tibet-Elliot_Sperling.htm... .."We could hear nothing but the sound of our footsteps as we walked through the town … After we got through the gate, we saw a tall wall in front of us … The troops were taking the prisoners forward line by line, but when they approached the center of the wall they seemed to disappear … I thought, “That’s very strange—what’s going on here?” … When we reached the middle of the wall, a Chinese soldier raised a trapdoor which covered a deep hole, from the ground. A terrible smell came out of the darkness. The troops ordered the prisoners to jump down into the hole one by one. I could hear them landing on the ground beneath. From inside the hole I could hear people crying in pain … “How terrible, it’s a child!” someone down below said, and he reached his arms up and carried me down… When I got into the open air I was astonished to see that the yard was full of hundreds of prisoners … Looking around I could see other holes, and they seemed to have dead bodies lying close to them too … “There are 2,300 male prisoners,” Dragpa said,” and 1,600 females,” Cooks always know exactly how many prisoners there are … Each morning the bodies of those who had died as a result of the Chinese soldiers’ cruelty were carried out of the main gate. Two prisoners used to tie them to a pole and carry the bodies, hanging beneath the pole, to the disposal point outside the wall …" .. Try as one might, it’s hard to conceive of a means of dismissing Nag-tshang Nu-blo’s testimony as something “skewed to please exile authorities.”
what's the fuck*** relationship with cypherpunk movement ?
On Thu, 16 Jul 2020 09:21:55 +0000 таракан <cryptoanalyzers@protonmail.com> wrote:
what's the fuck*** relationship with cypherpunk movement ?
well, it would be relevant if it were not trumpofascist propaganda coming from the list's leading trumpofascist.
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