Re: Richard Stallman Gets SJW'd
remember linus torvalds. google has been taken over by idiots
Torvalds Linux Appelbaum Assange Tor Stallman Gnu FSF EFF Todd Bitcoin BSD's Raymond Google Trump NRA soon... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialist_Rifle_Association https://motherboard.vice.com/blog/did-feminists-cancel-violet-blues-sex-talk And many many more... Conspiracy theorists say look not at the targets, but the field the targets are in... maybe some are plausibly freedom, freespeech, libertarian anti govcorp or security oriented internet systems, including your OS, maybe being affected, with random people being inserted into codepaths... potentially by who, and why. And to be fair, to what effect or end, good or bad, if any. Or maybe just generational takeover, then why not handover.
plan has as its highest priority ending independent ... practice, because ... high status, and they want to take that status away.
Plan now also causing generation of defense plans, counter rhetoric and activism, support groups, employment blacklists, etc, all around the internet, with some of those targeted now even fighting back in court... https://www.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAction/comments/4bd15s/are_sjws_going_after... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tortious_interference https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/tort https://www.sjwlist.com/Main_Page http://voxday.blogspot.com/2016/04/an-sjw-list.html https://statement-on-lambdaconf.github.io/ http://www.voxday.net/mart/SJW_Attack_Survival_Guide.pdf SJWs Always Lie: Taking Down the Thought Police http://www.amazon.com/SJWs-Always-Lie-Taking-Thought/dp/9527065682 https://judas.watch/ http://www.returnofkings.com/84618/13-common-sjw-arguments-and-how-to-disman... http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=6907 http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=6918 https://libreledger.net/2019/09/17/the-medias-hit-piece-on-richard-stallman/ https://old.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAction/comments/d5axzu/why_isnt_there_any_d... No idea. Speak freely tho.
On Tue, 17 Sep 2019 17:33:23 -0400 grarpamp <grarpamp@gmail.com> wrote:
remember linus torvalds. google has been taken over by idiots
Appelbaum Tor EFF Google Trump NRA soon...
if you believe those 'orgs' and ppl have been somehow 'subverted' you are idiot number 1 or worse.
https://lists.csail.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo https://lists.csail.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/csail-related https://tig.csail.mit.edu/email-communicating/popular-lab-mailing-lists/ https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/6405929/09132019142056-0001.pdf https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/6405929/09132019142056-0001.txt
Given the whole Epstein funding thing, inaccessibilty and redaction of full thread context, inaccurate quoting by media and others, etc... Interested parties could try filing any applicable FOIA style open records request for the entire archives of all MIT lists, as they are unlikely to freely open them for public reading. And or engage the services of known subscribers, admin moles, etc
https://news.slashdot.org/story/19/09/14/2033212/richard-stallman-challenges... https://fudzilla.com/news/49393-stallman-defends-himself-over-epstein-commen... http://techrights.org/2019/09/15/media-attention-has-been-shifted/ Richard Stallman's Controversial Views Are Nothing New and They Distract From Bill Gates' Vastly Worse Role http://techrights.org/2019/09/17/rms-witch-hunt/ Why I Once Called for Richard Stallman to Step Down http://techrights.org/2019/09/16/stallman-removed/ As Richard Stallman Resigns Let’s Consider Why GNU/Linux Without Stallman and Torvalds Would be a Victory to Microsoft There's always at least some surface, yet always look deeper for the real stories. This event may leave all of computing in a state. Good news... anyone hodling popcorn stocks just hit the jackpot with all the hysterical signalling that's been melting down twitter today.
On Wed, 18 Sep 2019 00:48:12 -0400 grarpamp <grarpamp@gmail.com> wrote:
As Richard Stallman Resigns Let’s Consider Why GNU/Linux Without Stallman and Torvalds Would be a Victory to Microsoft
torvalds is a fucking sellout and google cocksucker. He can be credited with providing an OS for the biggest NSA platform on the world. And for FREE! as to stallman, he can start the FSF v2
On 9/18/19, Punk <punks@tfwno.gf> wrote:
torvalds is a fucking sellout and google cocksucker. He can be credited with providing an OS for the biggest NSA platform on the world.
As has been covered before on this list, even if Linux was HESSLA or similarly creatively restrictive of such users, that "license" would be completely ignored by Governments. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hacktivismo_Enhanced-Source_Software_License_A... https://wiki.creativecommons.org/wiki/Human_rights_license https://www.gnu.org/licenses/hessla.html https://archive.is/20120710105429/http://ip.xerobank.com/company/tesla/ https://web.archive.org/web/20080202223002/http://xerobank.com/tesla.html https://www.wilderssecurity.com/threads/warning-torrify-is-now-xerobank-seri...
as to stallman, he can start the FSF v2
He'll come up with something.
On Wed, Sep 18, 2019 at 01:41:33AM -0400, grarpamp wrote:
On 9/18/19, Punk <punks@tfwno.gf> wrote:
torvalds is a fucking sellout and google cocksucker. He can be credited with providing an OS for the biggest NSA platform on the world.
As has been covered before on this list, even if Linux was HESSLA or similarly creatively restrictive of such users, that "license" would be completely ignored by Governments.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hacktivismo_Enhanced-Source_Software_License_A... https://wiki.creativecommons.org/wiki/Human_rights_license https://www.gnu.org/licenses/hessla.html https://archive.is/20120710105429/http://ip.xerobank.com/company/tesla/ https://web.archive.org/web/20080202223002/http://xerobank.com/tesla.html https://www.wilderssecurity.com/threads/warning-torrify-is-now-xerobank-seri...
as to stallman, he can start the FSF v2
He'll come up with something.
May be so. Or may be he's packing it in to retire to "leave it to those who think they know so much" for whatever reasons (lack of support from the rest of us, acquiescence (or worse, opposition) by those whom he thought were on the page with certain rational basics...). Questions: - What world do I want to create? - How do I help get there? - What do I wish to maintain in this world? - What can I do to help maintain it so? - Is $present_event a damage to the present world, or to achieving the sort of world I would like to be in? - If so, what can I do now/today/this week, to help fix it?
[Richard Stallman resigned from the fSF]
Or maybe just generational takeover, then why not handover.
Submitting to a terrorist, including the extremely intolerant tolerance-nazis called "SJW"s, i.e. "SJW terrorists", is an exercise in giving up territory to arseholes, giving up ground, ceding the battle and perhaps the war. Handover when sensible, but this is not sensible. Even IF Stallman's views were "intolerable" to the majority in society, HE IS ENTITLED TO HIS VIEWS. Alternate views "are now intolerable". Western man (to generalise) is cuckolded, blackmailed, isolated, his abilities envied, his woman lusted, his talents decried, his thoughts outlawed and his every foundation SJW terrorised. This is a very, very sad day. Evidently Stallman failed to have one or two strong (of character) men around him to support his right to speak views that differ from the lame stream. One man cannot win the war. But one man of good character supported by AT LEAST ONE OTHER MAN OF GOOD CHARACTER, if he is Aryan, has a fighting fucking chance against the entire fucking world. Men must man the fuck up. Bad move, RMS. I do feel your pain, but damn this was a bad move. Folks must start to defend the right of fellow Souls to hold contrary views and to speak and argue those views publicly. Cede this ground at the very near peril of a Western "Pol Pot" hell on earth very soon scenario. You must live your rights, and support those of good character to likewise live our rights.
I don't think it's entirely freed markets for some government intervention to prevent #netoo abuses by requiring some (e.g., employment and contractor) contracts to preclude demotions, reassignments and dismissals based on non-adjudicated accusations. On Tue, Sep 17, 2019, 5:45 PM Zenaan Harkness <zen@freedbms.net> wrote:
[Richard Stallman resigned from the fSF]
Or maybe just generational takeover, then why not handover.
Submitting to a terrorist, including the extremely intolerant tolerance-nazis called "SJW"s, i.e. "SJW terrorists", is an exercise in giving up territory to arseholes, giving up ground, ceding the battle and perhaps the war.
Handover when sensible, but this is not sensible.
Even IF Stallman's views were "intolerable" to the majority in society, HE IS ENTITLED TO HIS VIEWS.
Alternate views "are now intolerable".
Western man (to generalise) is cuckolded, blackmailed, isolated, his abilities envied, his woman lusted, his talents decried, his thoughts outlawed and his every foundation SJW terrorised.
This is a very, very sad day.
Evidently Stallman failed to have one or two strong (of character) men around him to support his right to speak views that differ from the lame stream.
One man cannot win the war.
But one man of good character supported by AT LEAST ONE OTHER MAN OF GOOD CHARACTER, if he is Aryan, has a fighting fucking chance against the entire fucking world.
Men must man the fuck up.
Bad move, RMS. I do feel your pain, but damn this was a bad move.
Folks must start to defend the right of fellow Souls to hold contrary views and to speak and argue those views publicly.
Cede this ground at the very near peril of a Western "Pol Pot" hell on earth very soon scenario.
You must live your rights, and support those of good character to likewise live our rights.
RMS apparently resigned. Apparently. As in, he apparently chose, of his own "free will", to resign from his own foundation. The Free Software Foundation. That foundation which is the origin foundation for our free software movement. He was the BDFL of the FSF. To resign (if true) was a very unfortunate acqiescense to SJW terrorists masquerading as SJWs, somehow very effectively shifting the entire public (lame stream media) discourse away from the Epstein connections to Bill Gates and Microsoft which was hitting the headlines. And so a scalp, a sacrifice had to be made, and RMS fell for the MSM exposure bait. Sorry but no, we don't need "more protective laws" from the government, what we do need is for men to man the firetruck up and STAND UP FOR OUR RIGHTS AND THE RIGHTS OF ONE ANOTHER. That is, to speak up, publicly, clearly, strongly, in particular in defense of those such as RMS, Linus and others who demonstrate those annoying traits of contributing the bulk of their lives to improving the tools and systems in our world. It's not much to ask. Linus Torvalds got taken down about a year ago - evidently he did not have sufficient support for his right to speak bluntly and crassly and or in any other damn way that pleases him. RMS, founder and originator of the Free Software Foundation, did not have sufficient support for his simple and straightforward words about words used to conflate or mislead readers (or listeners) about Epstein or anyone else for that matter, and RMS has now resigned from the FSF. And THIS, fellow Souls, is damned and bloody indictment on us all! On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 05:53:51PM -0700, Steven Schear wrote:
I don't think it's entirely freed markets for some government intervention to prevent #netoo abuses by requiring some (e.g., employment and contractor) contracts to preclude demotions, reassignments and dismissals based on non-adjudicated accusations.
On Tue, Sep 17, 2019, 5:45 PM Zenaan Harkness <zen@freedbms.net> wrote:
[Richard Stallman resigned from the fSF]
Or maybe just generational takeover, then why not handover.
Submitting to a terrorist, including the extremely intolerant tolerance-nazis called "SJW"s, i.e. "SJW terrorists", is an exercise in giving up territory to arseholes, giving up ground, ceding the battle and perhaps the war.
Handover when sensible, but this is not sensible.
Even IF Stallman's views were "intolerable" to the majority in society, HE IS ENTITLED TO HIS VIEWS.
Alternate views "are now intolerable".
Western man (to generalise) is cuckolded, blackmailed, isolated, his abilities envied, his woman lusted, his talents decried, his thoughts outlawed and his every foundation SJW terrorised.
This is a very, very sad day.
Evidently Stallman failed to have one or two strong (of character) men around him to support his right to speak views that differ from the lame stream.
One man cannot win the war.
But one man of good character supported by AT LEAST ONE OTHER MAN OF GOOD CHARACTER, if he is Aryan, has a fighting fucking chance against the entire fucking world.
Men must man the fuck up.
Bad move, RMS. I do feel your pain, but damn this was a bad move.
Folks must start to defend the right of fellow Souls to hold contrary views and to speak and argue those views publicly.
Cede this ground at the very near peril of a Western "Pol Pot" hell on earth very soon scenario.
You must live your rights, and support those of good character to likewise live our rights.
On Tue, Sep 17, 2019, 5:45 PM Zenaan Harkness <zen@freedbms.net> wrote:
[Richard Stallman resigned from the fSF]
Or maybe just generational takeover, then why not handover.
Submitting to a terrorist, including the extremely intolerant tolerance-nazis called "SJW"s, i.e. "SJW terrorists", is an exercise in giving up territory to arseholes, giving up ground, ceding the battle and perhaps the war.
Handover when sensible, but this is not sensible.
Even IF Stallman's views were "intolerable" to the majority in society, HE IS ENTITLED TO HIS VIEWS.
Alternate views "are now intolerable".
Western man (to generalise) is cuckolded, blackmailed, isolated, his abilities envied, his woman lusted, his talents decried, his thoughts outlawed and his every foundation SJW terrorised.
This is a very, very sad day.
Evidently Stallman failed to have one or two strong (of character) men around him to support his right to speak views that differ from the lame stream.
One man cannot win the war.
But one man of good character supported by AT LEAST ONE OTHER MAN OF GOOD CHARACTER, if he is Aryan, has a fighting fucking chance against the entire fucking world.
Men must man the fuck up.
Bad move, RMS. I do feel your pain, but damn this was a bad move.
Folks must start to defend the right of fellow Souls to hold contrary views and to speak and argue those views publicly.
Cede this ground at the very near peril of a Western "Pol Pot" hell on earth very soon scenario.
You must live your rights, and support those of good character to likewise live our rights.
On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 05:53:51PM -0700, Steven Schear wrote:
I don't think it's entirely freed markets for some government intervention to prevent #netoo abuses by requiring some (e.g., employment and contractor) contracts to preclude demotions, reassignments and dismissals based on non-adjudicated accusations.
On Wed, Sep 18, 2019 at 11:56:13AM +1000, Zenaan Harkness wrote:
RMS apparently resigned. Apparently. As in, he apparently chose, of his own "free will", to resign from his own foundation. The Free Software Foundation. That foundation which is the origin foundation for our free software movement.
He was the BDFL of the FSF.
To resign (if true) was a very unfortunate acqiescense to SJW terrorists masquerading as SJWs, somehow very effectively shifting the entire public (lame stream media) discourse away from the Epstein connections to Bill Gates and Microsoft which was hitting the headlines.
And so a scalp, a sacrifice had to be made, and RMS fell for the MSM exposure bait.
Sorry but no, we don't need "more protective laws" from the government, what we do need is for men to man the firetruck up and STAND UP FOR OUR RIGHTS AND THE RIGHTS OF ONE ANOTHER.
That is, to speak up, publicly, clearly, strongly, in particular in defense of those such as RMS, Linus and others who demonstrate those annoying traits of contributing the bulk of their lives to improving the tools and systems in our world.
It's not much to ask.
Linus Torvalds got taken down about a year ago - evidently he did not have sufficient support for his right to speak bluntly and crassly and or in any other damn way that pleases him.
RMS, founder and originator of the Free Software Foundation, did not have sufficient support for his simple and straightforward words about words used to conflate or mislead readers (or listeners) about Epstein or anyone else for that matter, and RMS has now resigned from the FSF.
And THIS, fellow Souls, is damned and bloody indictment on us all!
BTW, the most public and obvious (to any thoughtful individual) indictment against us all was the successful and sustained take down of David Duke for now decades, and Andrew Anglin in the last few years. When we fail to actually uphold and DEMAND the rights of those we disagree with be protected, we are signing our own despotism warrant, asking for Pol Pot and Idi Amin to reign again, this time in our own lands! Live the right, uphold the right, or die - this is our lesson of history.
FTR, this report (previously linked by grarpam), is worth reading if you want the low down: https://itsfoss.com/richard-stallman-controversy/ On Wed, Sep 18, 2019 at 10:44:44AM +1000, Zenaan Harkness wrote:
[Richard Stallman resigned from the fSF]
Or maybe just generational takeover, then why not handover.
Submitting to a terrorist, including the extremely intolerant tolerance-nazis called "SJW"s, i.e. "SJW terrorists", is an exercise in giving up territory to arseholes, giving up ground, ceding the battle and perhaps the war.
Handover when sensible, but this is not sensible.
Even IF Stallman's views were "intolerable" to the majority in society, HE IS ENTITLED TO HIS VIEWS.
Alternate views "are now intolerable".
Western man (to generalise) is cuckolded, blackmailed, isolated, his abilities envied, his woman lusted, his talents decried, his thoughts outlawed and his every foundation SJW terrorised.
This is a very, very sad day.
Evidently Stallman failed to have one or two strong (of character) men around him to support his right to speak views that differ from the lame stream.
One man cannot win the war.
But one man of good character supported by AT LEAST ONE OTHER MAN OF GOOD CHARACTER, if he is Aryan, has a fighting fucking chance against the entire fucking world.
Men must man the fuck up.
Bad move, RMS. I do feel your pain, but damn this was a bad move.
Folks must start to defend the right of fellow Souls to hold contrary views and to speak and argue those views publicly.
Cede this ground at the very near peril of a Western "Pol Pot" hell on earth very soon scenario.
You must live your rights, and support those of good character to likewise live our rights.
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