FOIA: National Reconnaissance Office NROL-39 Octopus Mission Patch
"A giant squid sucking the face off of North America" ~Jon Stewart The logo was widely lampooned as emblematic of the intelligence community's tone-deafness to public sentiment. Incidentally, an octopus enveloping the planet also so happens to be the logo of SPECTRE, the international criminal syndicate that James Bond is always thwarting. So there's that. Privacy and security researcher Runa Sandvik wanted to know who approved this and why, so she filed a FOIA with the NRO for the development materials that went into the logo. A few months later, the NRO delivered. https://www.muckrock.com/news/archives/2016/jan/19/octopus-NRO/ -- RR "Freedom is the capacity to pause between stimulus and response." ~Rollo May
On Thu, 21 Jan 2016 19:30:15 -0800 Rayzer <Rayzer@riseup.net> wrote:
Privacy and security researcher Runa Sandvik wanted to know who approved this and why,
Now, that's really a fundamental piece of information which can lead to some fundamental changes regarding...something. Or other.
so she filed a FOIA
isn't that runa sandvik on the tor payroll (like coderman) ? ah, the state-funded professional 'activists' and their impressive...'research'. -
with the NRO for the development materials that went into the logo. A few months later, the NRO delivered.
...delivered bullshit.
https://www.muckrock.com/news/archives/2016/jan/19/octopus-NRO/
On Fri, 2016-01-22 at 02:39 -0300, juan wrote:
On Thu, 21 Jan 2016 19:30:15 -0800 Rayzer <Rayzer@riseup.net> wrote:
Privacy and security researcher Runa Sandvik wanted to know who approved this and why,
Now, that's really a fundamental piece of information which can lead to some fundamental changes regarding...something. Or other.
so she filed a FOIA
isn't that runa sandvik on the tor payroll (like coderman) ?
ah, the state-funded professional 'activists' and their impressive...'research'. -
with the NRO for the development materials that went into the logo. A few months later, the NRO delivered.
...delivered bullshit.
I get that you think this FOIA request was a waste of time. However, I disagree completely, and I think we do have a right to know who came up with this rather creepy logo. It is definitely an eye-opener to me that "A little sinister!!" wasn't enough to discourage the final "OK" on it. Honestly, this logo should never have made it out into the world; I think the world would be a better place if an alternative logo had been developed and all copies of the existing one shredded, overwritten with zeros, degaussed, etc as appropriate. -- Shawn K. Quinn <skquinn@rushpost.com>
On Thu, 21 Jan 2016 23:54:45 -0600 "Shawn K. Quinn" <skquinn@rushpost.com> wrote:
I think the world would be a better place if an alternative logo had been developed
That sounds like irony and sarcams, yes? =) Well, I can believe it's sarcasm until you crush my hopes saying it's not sarcasm...
and all copies of the existing one shredded, overwritten with zeros, degaussed, etc as appropriate.
Shawn K. Quinn wrote:
On Thu, 21 Jan 2016 19:30:15 -0800 Rayzer <Rayzer@riseup.net> wrote:
Privacy and security researcher Runa Sandvik wanted to know who approved this and why,
Now, that's really a fundamental piece of information which can lead to some fundamental changes regarding...something. Or other.
so she filed a FOIA isn't that runa sandvik on the tor payroll (like coderman) ?
ah, the state-funded professional 'activists' and their impressive...'research'. -
with the NRO for the development materials that went into the logo. A few months later, the NRO delivered.
...delivered bullshit. I get that you think this FOIA request was a waste of time. However, I disagree completely, and I think we do have a right to know who came up with this rather creepy logo. It is definitely an eye-opener to me that "A little sinister!!" wasn't enough to discourage the final "OK" on it. Honestly, this logo should never have made it out into the world; I
On Fri, 2016-01-22 at 02:39 -0300, juan wrote: think the world would be a better place if an alternative logo had been developed and all copies of the existing one shredded, overwritten with zeros, degaussed, etc as appropriate.
You forgot to extract your tongue from cheek. -- RR "Freedom is the capacity to pause between stimulus and response." ~Rollo May
On Fri, 2016-01-22 at 07:45 -0800, Rayzer wrote:
Shawn K. Quinn wrote:
I get that you think this FOIA request was a waste of time. However, I disagree completely, and I think we do have a right to know who came up with this rather creepy logo. It is definitely an eye-opener to me that "A little sinister!!" wasn't enough to discourage the final "OK" on it. Honestly, this logo should never have made it out into the world; I think the world would be a better place if an alternative logo had been developed and all copies of the existing one shredded, overwritten with zeros, degaussed, etc as appropriate.
You forgot to extract your tongue from cheek.
Perhaps my phrasing sucked... let me rephrase: The least the people behind this program could have done, was not waste further taxpayer money on a logo which was described as "A little sinister!!!" from one the people in charge of approving it. Honestly, as issued, I consider the logo disgraceful and un-American. The only silver lining to this cloud is that we have some transparency regarding its approval, which admittedly is not much of a silver lining. -- Shawn K. Quinn <skquinn@rushpost.com>
Shawn K. Quinn wrote:
On Fri, 2016-01-22 at 07:45 -0800, Rayzer wrote:
Shawn K. Quinn wrote:
I get that you think this FOIA request was a waste of time. However, I disagree completely, and I think we do have a right to know who came up with this rather creepy logo. It is definitely an eye-opener to me that "A little sinister!!" wasn't enough to discourage the final "OK" on it. Honestly, this logo should never have made it out into the world; I think the world would be a better place if an alternative logo had been developed and all copies of the existing one shredded, overwritten with zeros, degaussed, etc as appropriate.
You forgot to extract your tongue from cheek. Perhaps my phrasing sucked... let me rephrase:
The least the people behind this program could have done, was not waste further taxpayer money on a logo which was described as "A little sinister!!!" from one the people in charge of approving it. Honestly, as issued, I consider the logo disgraceful and un-American. The only silver lining to this cloud is that we have some transparency regarding its approval, which admittedly is not much of a silver lining.
It was this part:
I think the world would be a better place if an alternative logo had been developed....
The world would be a better place if there wasn't an NRO to be designing ANY patches for... -- RR "Freedom is the capacity to pause between stimulus and response." ~Rollo May
On Sun, 2016-01-24 at 21:16 -0800, Rayzer wrote:
It was this part:
I think the world would be a better place if an alternative logo had been developed....
The world would be a better place if there wasn't an NRO to be designing ANY patches for...
Agreed, not exactly my best choice of words. However, if they are going to figuratively suck off the USA, it is a really bad idea to make the logo a giant squid literally giving the country a blow job, and spend taxpayer money on that logo to boot... -- Shawn K. Quinn <skquinn@rushpost.com>
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