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On Fri, Sep 14, 2018 at 09:07:07AM -0700, Razer wrote:
I accidentally send from other accounts occasionally. I believe I did so just last week, and I don't get bounce messages either. Just sayin'. Settings check.
Well it was more "fun" when we didn't have to subscribe first to fun-spam the list with some <ahem> "fun" email...
On Sat, Sep 15, 2018 at 02:19:33AM +1000, Zenaan Harkness wrote:
On Fri, Sep 14, 2018 at 09:07:07AM -0700, Razer wrote:
I accidentally send from other accounts occasionally. I believe I did so just last week, and I don't get bounce messages either. Just sayin'. Settings check.
Well it was more "fun" when we didn't have to subscribe first to fun-spam the list with some <ahem> "fun" email...
Yeah, it looks like the list was unmoderated (i.e., open to any posting from any address) way back when. I don't know when it became limited to subscribers only, but this is not a recent change. If there is clamor for letting anyone from anywhere post without subscribing (perhaps with a few anti-spam provisions, like greylisting), we could consider it. But hopefully the "fix" to getting a proper bounce message when a message doesn't go through will be sufficient. We do have lots of people who change their email address frequently. Also people who subscribe multiple addresses (setting some to "no mail") so they can post from different addresses. This is completely unrestricted and automated, so it's quite easy for anyone who wants to to subscribe and then start posting immediately. The big archive of pre-2016 postings that was shared last month from was dominated by spam, it seems. - Greg
On September 14, 2018 4:28:59 PM CDT, Greg Newby <gbnewby@pglaf.org> wrote:
On Sat, Sep 15, 2018 at 02:19:33AM +1000, Zenaan Harkness wrote:
On Fri, Sep 14, 2018 at 09:07:07AM -0700, Razer wrote:
I accidentally send from other accounts occasionally. I believe I did so just last week, and I don't get bounce messages either. Just sayin'. Settings check.
Well it was more "fun" when we didn't have to subscribe first to fun-spam the list with some <ahem> "fun" email...
Yeah, it looks like the list was unmoderated (i.e., open to any posting from any address) way back when. I don't know when it became limited to subscribers only, but this is not a recent change.
If there is clamor for letting anyone from anywhere post without subscribing (perhaps with a few anti-spam provisions, like greylisting), we could consider it. But hopefully the "fix" to getting a proper bounce message when a message doesn't go through will be sufficient.
We do have lots of people who change their email address frequently. Also people who subscribe multiple addresses (setting some to "no mail") so they can post from different addresses. This is completely unrestricted and automated, so it's quite easy for anyone who wants to to subscribe and then start posting immediately.
The big archive of pre-2016 postings that was shared last month from was dominated by spam, it seems. - Greg
It's probably a bad idea to turn this feature on - enabling the bounces is sufficient, IMO. However, if people really want it I would say turn it on, and watch minds change when it introduces little (almost nothing) to the discussion, but we start seeing spam out the ass.
On Sat, 15 Sep 2018 03:23:05 -0500 John Newman <jnn@synfin.org> wrote:
On September 14, 2018 4:28:59 PM CDT, Greg Newby <gbnewby@pglaf.org> wrote:
The big archive of pre-2016 postings that was shared last month from was dominated by spam, it seems. - Greg
It's probably a bad idea to turn this feature on - enabling the bounces is sufficient, IMO.
However, if people really want it I would say turn it on, and watch minds change when it introduces little (almost nothing) to the discussion, but we start seeing spam out the ass.
it seems rather pointless to me. People who are not subscribed are not even reading the list - why should they be able to post? And yeah the archives from the 2000s are mostly spam. 90% spam. Or maybe more.
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