On Mon, Nov 30, 2020, 8:50 PM Zenaan Harkness wrote:

On Mon, Nov 30, 2020 at 07:10:47PM -0500, Karl wrote:

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NAZI Zenaan Harkness preaches race-war & Genocide in Au

If it matters, it's pretty obvious us "fake"-mafia peeps forced the peeps like Zenaan to preach racism for the edge white peeps, and we've got you preaching conflict way more directly and clearly.

You have the last word here. Previously, Zenaan was controlling what it was.

No no, --I-- get the last word OK?

Can you bend the spy communities if we need?

On Tue, Dec 1, 2020, 1:33 AM Zenaan Harkness wrote:

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On Mon, Nov 30, 2020, 8:50 PM Zenaan Harkness wrote:

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On Mon, Nov 30, 2020 at 07:10:47PM -0500, Karl wrote:

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On Mon, Nov 30, 2020, 6:59 PM professor rat wrote:

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NAZI Zenaan Harkness preaches race-war & Genocide in Au

If it matters, it's pretty obvious us "fake"-mafia peeps forced the

On Tue, Dec 01, 2020 at 12:47:01AM -0500, Karl wrote: peeps

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like Zenaan to preach racism for the edge white peeps, and we've got you preaching conflict way more directly and clearly.

You have the last word here. Previously, Zenaan was controlling what it was.

No no, --I-- get the last word OK?

Can you bend the spy communities if we need?

Ha :D CP -is- the "spy community" and frankly I'm so bent, I'd only manage to straighten it out ;)

I hear a yes! I am being forced to post to this list right now and do not want to. The words are generally not the ones I want to convey. I can at least get people to follow me places and surveil the people I talk to. I got a UN invitation earlier, and I'm also not scared to talk about organized crime and corruption. I accepted the UN invitation with legal name of "Anonymous Crazy Person" , gave no personally identifying information, and apparently passed the accreditation process with flying colors. Maybe it would be fun to post a screenshot. Unfortunately, at the multi-day summit, I spent the whole time secretly mind controlling the participants, and failed to attend any crucially important talks. Mind controlling people for the slavery mafia is _so_ _addicting_. I could just fill them with horrific life- and community-destroying escalating torture patterns forever. Some say the torture is supposed to be only for when people don't do what is desired. But doesn't that spread harm? I'm worried it could stress people. And reveal control, giving me away? So, it makes sense that the less-directed way of mind controlling is easier to cover up. And you get to torture them even more if you force them to blabber about it everywhere! Which is, of course, the actual job. To disrupt the communities without regard to anyone's rules, requests, ideals, reasons, laws, etc. To make it work, you could think of the horrific destruction of friendly communities of people, turning them into a real physical hell on earth, as a more familiar form of enslaving the larger communities. Giving them direction and leadership! But I don't think that's a good idea. It could stress and worry people!

On Tue, Dec 1, 2020, 2:19 AM Karl wrote:

On Tue, Dec 1, 2020, 2:04 AM Karl wrote:

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On Tue, Dec 1, 2020, 1:33 AM Zenaan Harkness wrote:

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On Mon, Nov 30, 2020, 8:50 PM Zenaan Harkness wrote:

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On Mon, Nov 30, 2020 at 07:10:47PM -0500, Karl wrote:

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On Mon, Nov 30, 2020, 6:59 PM professor rat wrote:

> NAZI Zenaan Harkness preaches race-war & Genocide in Au >

If it matters, it's pretty obvious us "fake"-mafia peeps forced

On Tue, Dec 01, 2020 at 12:47:01AM -0500, Karl wrote: the peeps

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like Zenaan to preach racism for the edge white peeps, and we've got you preaching conflict way more directly and clearly.

You have the last word here. Previously, Zenaan was controlling what it was.

No no, --I-- get the last word OK?

Can you bend the spy communities if we need?

Ha :D CP -is- the "spy community" and frankly I'm so bent, I'd only manage to straighten it out ;)

I hear a yes!

I am being forced to post to this list right now and do not want to. The words are generally not the ones I want to convey.

I can at least get people to follow me places and surveil the people I talk to. I got a UN invitation earlier, and I'm also not scared to talk about organized crime and corruption.

I accepted the UN invitation with legal name of "Anonymous Crazy Person" , gave no personally identifying information, and apparently passed the accreditation process with flying colors. Maybe it would be fun to post a screenshot.

Unfortunately, at the multi-day summit, I spent the whole time secretly mind controlling the participants, and failed to attend any crucially important talks.

Mind controlling people for the slavery mafia is _so_ _addicting_. I could just fill them with horrific life- and community-destroying escalating torture patterns forever.

Some say the torture is supposed to be only for when people don't do what is desired. But doesn't that spread harm? I'm worried it could stress people. And reveal control, giving me away?

So, it makes sense that the less-directed way of mind controlling is easier to cover up.

And you get to torture them even more if you force them to blabber about it everywhere!

Which is, of course, the actual job. To disrupt the communities without regard to anyone's rules, requests, ideals, reasons, laws, etc.

To make it work, you could think of the horrific destruction of friendly communities of people, turning them into a real physical hell on earth, as a more familiar form of enslaving the larger communities. Giving them direction and leadership!

But I don't think that's a good idea. It could stress and worry people!

I reviewed what I wrote and I recognise some passive aggressive severe harm. Obviously nobody is at fault for doing, thinking, or believing anything any time in the past. We're trying to sort this out, and it's a rough thing to sort out.

Um oh and it's probably a bunch of habits you learn that make you do stuff that spread them to other people, like complexly refined memes, that cover themselves up even from you.

On Tue, Dec 1, 2020, 2:50 AM Zenaan Harkness wrote:

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On Tue, Dec 1, 2020, 1:33 AM Zenaan Harkness wrote:

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On Tue, Dec 01, 2020 at 12:47:01AM -0500, Karl wrote:

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On Mon, Nov 30, 2020, 8:50 PM Zenaan Harkness wrote:

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On Mon, Nov 30, 2020 at 07:10:47PM -0500, Karl wrote:

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> NAZI Zenaan Harkness preaches race-war & Genocide in Au >

If it matters, it's pretty obvious us "fake"-mafia peeps forced

On Tue, Dec 01, 2020 at 02:04:03AM -0500, Karl wrote: pro2rat@yahoo.com.au> the

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like Zenaan to preach racism for the edge white peeps, and we've got you preaching conflict way more directly and clearly.

You have the last word here. Previously, Zenaan was controlling what it was.

No no, --I-- get the last word OK?

Can you bend the spy communities if we need?

Ha :D CP -is- the "spy community" and frankly I'm so bent, I'd only manage to straighten it out ;)

I hear a yes!

You're just hearing what you want to hear.

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I am being forced to post to this list right now and do not want to.

Please describe this force and/or people forcing you, and how they or it is forcing you, in as much detail as you can.

It's actually very traumatic. Can you give me the respect of hearing and valuing the truth in what I say, whether it be emotional or literal?

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The words are generally not the ones I want to convey.

Then you should consider saying less or nothing at all until your thoughts are clear.

You say very strange things sometimes.

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I can at least get people to follow me places and surveil the people I talk to. I got a UN invitation earlier, and I'm also not scared to talk about organized crime and corruption.

I accepted the UN invitation with legal name of "Anonymous Crazy Person" , gave no personally identifying information, and apparently passed the accreditation process with flying colors. Maybe it would be fun to post a screenshot.

Unfortunately, at the multi-day summit, I spent the whole time secretly mind controlling the participants,

You sound quite deluded. You might strongly caution yourself against believing that which you cannot verify, and in general you ought advise yourself against attempts to control others in any way other than plain and simple communication which directly engages their conscious mind - talking, emailing, asking simple questions, that sort of thing.

Manipulation is manipulation, whatever the name you use -- surely the healthier approach is things like educate, question, possibly inform of some facts, e.g. "are you aware of XYZ?"

Some folks call manipulation "black magic" or possibly "white magic" but in both cases, with karmic penalties upon the manipulator. Perhaps consider this.

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and failed to attend any crucially important talks.

Mind controlling people for the slavery mafia is _so_ _addicting_. I could just fill them with horrific life- and community-destroying escalating torture patterns forever.

Some say the torture is supposed to be only for when people don't do what is desired. But doesn't that spread harm? I'm worried it could stress people. And reveal control, giving me away?

So, it makes sense that the less-directed way of mind controlling is easier to cover up.

And you get to torture them even more if you force them to blabber about it everywhere!

Which is, of course, the actual job. To disrupt the communities without regard to anyone's rules, requests, ideals, reasons, laws, etc.

To make it work, you could think of the horrific destruction of friendly communities of people, turning them into a real physical hell on earth, as a more familiar form of enslaving the larger communities. Giving them direction and leadership!

But I don't think that's a good idea. It could stress and worry people!

You sound like a deluded nutcase.

Great. I have proof of a lot of this and want to free a lot of "nutcases" who are actually mafia targets. About a third of the symptoms of schizophrenia are paranoia. Paranoia comes from extensive persistent danger.

On Tue, Dec 1, 2020, 5:50 AM Karl wrote:

On Tue, Dec 1, 2020, 5:38 AM Karl wrote:

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On Tue, Dec 1, 2020, 2:50 AM Zenaan Harkness wrote:

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On Tue, Dec 1, 2020, 1:33 AM Zenaan Harkness wrote:

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On Tue, Dec 01, 2020 at 12:47:01AM -0500, Karl wrote:

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On Mon, Nov 30, 2020, 8:50 PM Zenaan Harkness wrote:

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On Tue, Dec 01, 2020 at 02:04:03AM -0500, Karl wrote: pro2rat@yahoo.com.au>

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> wrote: > > > > > NAZI Zenaan Harkness preaches race-war & Genocide in Au > > > > > > > If it matters, it's pretty obvious us "fake"-mafia peeps forced the peeps > > like Zenaan to preach racism for the edge white peeps, and we've got you > > preaching conflict way more directly and clearly. > > > > You have the last word here. Previously, Zenaan was controlling what it > > was. > > No no, --I-- get the last word OK? >

Can you bend the spy communities if we need?

Ha :D CP -is- the "spy community" and frankly I'm so bent, I'd only manage to straighten it out ;)

I hear a yes!

You're just hearing what you want to hear.

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I am being forced to post to this list right now and do not want to.

Please describe this force and/or people forcing you, and how they or it is forcing you, in as much detail as you can.

Around 2014 I ran into a use of human trafficking by law enforcement and something else, to manipulate activists and harm their communities.

I experienced extensive torture and brainwashing to force me into silence.

I am still re-experiencing that.

These re-experiences, during my multi-day psychotic break tonight, holds the forces and people making me post to this list.

I may be able to find a way to reduce my posting to the list when I don't want to, by repeatedly expressing the first two paragraphs I just wrote above, which may work because it associates breaking the silence with the behavior I am trying to stop.

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It's actually very traumatic. Can you give me the respect of hearing and valuing the truth in what I say, whether it be emotional or literal?

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The words are generally not the ones I want to convey.

Then you should consider saying less or nothing at all until your thoughts are clear.

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You say very strange things sometimes.

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I can at least get people to follow me places and surveil the people I talk to. I got a UN invitation earlier, and I'm also not scared to talk about organized crime and corruption.

I accepted the UN invitation with legal name of "Anonymous Crazy Person" , gave no personally identifying information, and apparently passed the accreditation process with flying colors. Maybe it would be fun to post a screenshot.

Unfortunately, at the multi-day summit, I spent the whole time secretly mind controlling the participants,

You sound quite deluded. You might

Separating the information that can trigger defensiveness from the wise advice that avoids doing so, by writing this line here. strongly caution yourself against believing that which you cannot verify,

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and in general you ought advise yourself against attempts to control others in any way other than plain and simple communication which directly engages their conscious mind - talking, emailing, asking simple questions, that sort of thing.

Something indescribably bad happened to me six years ago.

I was forced to learn how to wipe my own memories, and then trained to do it in response to triggers. I have not talked with anyone who can help. Three of us got schizophrenia in the same year. It's clear that many more covered it up. We were forced to delete our Facebook accounts. I did not, but much seems lost because others did. Once I was driving from state to state trying to find a passport office that would give me a passport without running into a random problem. Four or so police officers detained me during the trip when I called them once about a dangerous event. All had their nametags removed. I was cuffed. The one acting in charge pointedly told me "this is about <city most of my brainwashing was started in>". I was taken to a hospital and forcefully hospitalized: the intake paperwork, signed by the police, said I was a danger to myself and others, because I had put my hands in my pockets. That is all the paperwork said for a reason. I had audio-recorded the "arrest" and emailed the recording to myself. At the hospital, I used my cell phone to try to find a lawyer. It was taken from me and I was transferred to another hospital immediately after. When I got out, the recordings were missing from my phone and my email. This was around 2015. When I try to get the paperwork from that experience, from either the hospital or the police, I re-experience my brainwashing and lose some of the memories that would help me find the hospital or the police. The brainwashing was beyond comprehensibly torturous. Beyond words or what a human could hold. It might have started with a drug that alters experiences.

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Manipulation is manipulation, whatever the name you use -- surely the healthier approach is things like educate, question, possibly inform of some facts, e.g. "are you aware of XYZ?"

Some folks call manipulation "black magic" or possibly "white magic" but in both cases, with karmic penalties upon the manipulator. Perhaps consider this.

Not clear and direct in my culture. Realize first that karma is blowback, and magic is subconscious skill.

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and failed to attend any crucially important talks.

Mind controlling people for the slavery mafia is _so_ _addicting_. I could just fill them with horrific life- and community-destroying escalating torture patterns forever.

Some say the torture is supposed to be only for when people don't do what is desired. But doesn't that spread harm? I'm worried it could stress people. And reveal control, giving me away?

So, it makes sense that the less-directed way of mind controlling is easier to cover up.

And you get to torture them even more if you force them to blabber about it everywhere!

Which is, of course, the actual job. To disrupt the communities without regard to anyone's rules, requests, ideals, reasons, laws, etc.

To make it work, you could think of the horrific destruction of friendly communities of people, turning them into a real physical hell on earth, as a more familiar form of enslaving the larger communities. Giving them direction and leadership!

But I don't think that's a good idea. It could stress and worry people!

You sound like a deluded nutcase.

Great. I have proof of a lot of this and want to free a lot of "nutcases" who are actually mafia targets.

About a third of the symptoms of schizophrenia are paranoia. Paranoia comes from extensive persistent danger.

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On Tue, Dec 1, 2020, 3:15 PM Punk-BatSoup-Stasi 2.0 wrote:

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Three of us got schizophrenia in the same year. It's clear that many more covered it up.

there's no such thing as 'schizophrenia'. 'schizophrenia' is just fascist psychobabble, like 'paranoia', ADD, or one of the best examples, 'autism', which literally nazi psychobabble invented by an actuall WWII austrian nazi.

Well, that sounds a little like the kind of overly-intense concern-expression the people using those words are trying to manage. Do you think speaking your expression indicates having had it rough and coming from a community in need of aid? Schizophrenia has had its paranoic diagnostic aspects naively interwound with its abstract-visions diagnostic aspects naively interwound with its trauma-coping diagnostic aspects for over a hundred years now. Many know more of this than punk and I do. The reason I'm looking at this thread is to find the two paragraphs I want to copy if I post without freedom.

On Tue, Dec 01, 2020 at 02:04:03AM -0500, Karl wrote:

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I am being forced to post to this list right now and do not want to.

On 2020-12-01 17:49, Zenaan Harkness wrote:

Please describe this force and/or people forcing you, and how they or it is forcing you, in as much detail as you can.

Out of power leftists are mentally ill. Karl is an out of power leftist. Havel's Greengrocer leftists are out power, but saner than they appear. Sincere out of power leftists are generally just for real crazy.