Hillary Clinton, the queen of war. Satanic rituals - live human and child "sacrifice". Underground military prisons caging children. Much evil, demonic, satanic evil. Trump on QAnon conspiracy theory: 'Is that supposed to be a bad thing?' Trump said he didn't know much about the QAnon movement's followers "other than I understand they like me very much, which I appreciate." https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white-house/trump-qanon-conspiracy-theory-s... ... When reminded by a reporter for NBC News that the movement's followers believe he is fighting to stop a satanic cult of pedophiles and cannibals, he asked: "Is that supposed to be a bad thing?" ... "I haven't heard that. But is that supposed to be a bad thing or a good thing? If I can help save the world from problems, I'm willing to do it, and I'm willing to put myself out there," Trump said. "And we are, actually. We're saving the world from a radical left philosophy that will destroy this country. And when this country is gone, the rest of the world would follow." Those who attack children such as in the below linked article, are expressing evil - this is their expressing their predatorial right to assault someone, in this case a child, for the reason that that child holds a different political view. As Marxos taught us, "the left eats its own", as in, the left ends up destroying itself, and some are self professed canibals, so literally eating their own, but mainly "eating their own" means betraying, murdering and destroying their own people and structures. I note that Fiona Barnett's Candy Girl documentary is kept off of Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Documentary_films_about_pedophilia https://www.innate-awareness.com/post/2018/08/10/fiona-barnetts-statement-ri... Fiona Barnett - Candy Girl Documentary (Part 1 of 2) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RT3NkHaNfMY Part 2 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-lMEnCZY5E (Remember that Nicole Kidman's father, Antony Kidman, fled to Singapore immediately after Barnett's "Candy Girl" documentary was released, and died a short time after arriving: https://www.smh.com.au/entertainment/celebrity/nicole-kidmans-father-dr-anto... Antony Kidman dies amidst child abuse allegations By Fiona Barnett | 20 September 2014 https://independentaustralia.net/life/life-display/antony-kidman-dies-amidst... ON WHITE BALLOON DAY 2014, September 7, an event meaningful to me because it raises awareness for child sex assault victims, the main perpetrator of my childhood abuse, Antony Kidman, died suddenly in Singapore. ) I choose to stand for righteousness, and to stand opposed to evil. On Sat, Sep 05, 2020 at 04:30:55PM -0400, Karl wrote:

I found your email. My dad's a Democrat.

I feel scared and angry seeing the phrase used again. It's also a little comforting, the familiarity of it. I need to know I can feel care among others, work safely with anyone I run into. Would you be willing to describe why you use the phrase, why you share such articles on a list with diverse politics?

On Thu, Sep 3, 2020, 9:58 PM Zenaan Harkness <zen@freedbms.net> wrote:

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Won't you please think of the children, the Democrat demonRats cry as they attack the children.

The left eats its own, attacks children, and gaslights the nation.

Spare the children? Nah: Police seek Colorado woman who pulled U-turn & PUNCHED 12yo boy on bike for carrying Trump sign https://www.rt.com/usa/499813-colorado-trump-boy-attacked/

Police are looking for a Colorado woman who allegedly assaulted a 12-year-old boy after seeing him carrying a Trump sign on his bicycle – the latest and perhaps most absurd instance of escalating political violence in the US.

The attack reportedly occurred Monday afternoon in Boulder, after a woman on a moped passed a boy riding his bicycle and saw his sign showing support for President Donald Trump. Police said the suspect then made a U-turn, confronted the boy, assaulted him and tried unsuccessfully to take his sign.

A police spokesman told the Denver Post that the woman punched the boy four or five times in the back of the head and arms with a closed fist and scratched him. The suspect was described as a white woman in her late 20s or mid-30s who was riding a gray or blue moped.

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Well, not on the event splashing the pages of the media... The so called "paedophile prince", Prince Andrew, according to the lady at issue, had sex with her when she was 17 years old - in other words, a young lady, not a child. And in the Virgin Islands (as in Australia) the statutory "age of consent" to sexual relations, is 16 years of age. And so in this particular case of Prince Andrew and the young lass he banged in the Virgin Islands, not only was she not a child, the act was not of itself illegal by statute law. This story of "the paedophile prince" is what you would call "a cover story". It is a cover story, because it is not the real or deeper story. The real story is the operation of a blackmail/ extortion racket in the heart of New York by Mossad, for decades - on the basis of statutorily illegal underage sex - as young as 14 years of age from some reports, and at least, under the statutory Age of Consent in New York, illegal, and therefore blackmail extortion material. This is the real story: Why was Mossad permitted to operate a "paedophile" blackmail racket in the heart of New York for decades, untouched/ unstopped/ unchecked? The story of the so called "paedophile prince" is evidently not the relevant story - either politically, morally, statutorily, and probably constitutionally. Indeed on each of these bases (politics, morals, statute law, constitutional law), the relevant story is "Mossad ran a sex blackmail operation in the heart of New York for some decades, and did so apparently completely unckecked". ... Speaking of "foreign interference", this is also the real story here. This "not the real story, story" has been covered by Andrew Anglin here: British Protest “Pedophile” Prince Andrew Instead of Protesting the Israeli Embassy https://dailystormer.su/british-protest-pedophile-prince-andrew-instead-of-p... The Israeli Mossad was caught running a blackmail ring involving underage girls. The thing is: you can’t protest the Israeli embassy for doing this, because the Holocaust. And you can’t protest the Moslems for picking up 11-year-old girls outside of elementary schools to use as unpaid prostitutes, because of the Crusades. So, your only option is to protest the sweatless toe-sucker, Prince Andrew. He’s a pedophile for having sex with a 17-year-old hooker. ... Jewish Mossad Agent Ghislaine Maxwell Demands Records Remain Sealed https://dailystormer.su/jewish-mossad-agent-ghislaine-maxwell-demands-record... How do I live without Jews? I want to know – How do I breathe without Jews? If Jews ever go? How do I ever, ever survive? How do I, how do I, oh how do I live? I was thinking that these documents should be available to the public, but then I remembered that we have to respect the privacy of the Jews… Because you know… The Holocaust. If people start thinking that Jews are a bunch of filthy sex traffickers and spies, they will try to lampshade them once again. ... Photos Emerge of Bill Clinton Getting Massaged by an Epstein Girl https://dailystormer.su/photos-emerge-of-bill-clinton-getting-massaged-by-an... ... I’m getting a little bit exhausted by the whole “oh my God I was only 22 and I didn’t know what sex was so he raped me” story we all keep hearing constantly, throughout all of society. But the fact that this entire Epstein fiasco has been flipped on its head and become “yeah okay but what about the poor little innocent hookers?” is just beyond the pale. This man was apparently an Israeli Mossad agent running a global blackmail ring. He’s got some kind of pagan temple on his private island. I’m sorry, I don’t care about hooker remorse. I just simply don’t care about it. I want to know about: 1. The Jewish agenda 2. The satanic rituals There are about a million other things I would like to know about before I would like to know about the sob stories of old hookers. ... Karl I shall respond specifically to some of your comments below. On Sat, Sep 05, 2020 at 09:35:42PM -0400, Karl wrote:

Thanks for your reply. I don't associate demonic behavior with political leanings myself

That is not what I am doing. I am naming the Clintons (especially Hillary Clinton) as evil, with a string of apparent murders behind them. The Democrat party of North America has also slid very far to the "extreme" left, to the point they are the socialist Marxist communist party gaslighting the USA into a Bolshevik style civil war: Video Montage Shows Democrats Inciting Violence [over and over again] http://dstormer6em3i4km.onion/video-montage-shows-democrats-inciting-violenc... This gaslighting of violence upon the nation of USA (and defunding the police etc), is being done by the Democrats and done and endorsed by many top Democrat party figures, and being done very publicly, and being supported by CNN, MSNBC, and other "main stream media" outlets. This gaslighting of the USA that the Democrat party is doing, is evil behaviour. This gaslighting is destroying North America as a nation (bad) and as an empire (there are much better ways, and they are actually wanting to sustain the USA MIC empire by stopping Trump from his somewhat unsuccessful attempts to unwind, withdraw from Afghanistan and Syria etc). In the face of this evil behaviour of so many in the Democrat party, and especially the Democrat "top brass" and their media lackeys, it is appropriate to name them "demon rats". Those "liberal democrats" who normally vote Democrat, and who do so in the face of this evil behaviour by many top Democrats (state and federal), and who fail to denounce this evil behaviour, are complicit with those evil actions, either explicitly if they vote D, or tacitly if they fail to denounce. By naming the Democrat party as "demon-rats", I am naming their evil behaviour as evil behaviour. I name myself a "liberal conservative", but the Democrat party as an entity at this point in history, is an evil farce of liberal democracy.

(although it is something I'm interested in working on in general rather than politically). Kinda worn out, might pop back to these things in some time.

On Sat, Sep 5, 2020, 7:47 PM Zenaan Harkness <zen@freedbms.net> wrote:

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Hillary Clinton, the queen of war.

Satanic rituals - live human and child "sacrifice".

Underground military prisons caging children.

I'm not sure if you're referring to well-documented things. I heard about Epstein's island of kidnapped children for prostitution; https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeffrey_Epstein lists both Republican and Democrat elite as affiliated with it.

Well, there's young adults, and then there's children, and then there's statute law, and then there's Israel's Mossad extortion racket fronted by Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell - and all these are different things. That which is made public, is usually the distraction - the "paedophile prince" for example, who reportedly (according to the lady herself) banged her when she was 17 ("or 18") years old. This is just the prince taking a "non fall" fall to entertain the public as a distraction from the real story - Mossad's NY blackmail operation. And also another real story and again from first hand personal experience, by Fiona Barnett. View Barnett's documentary (below) - she tells her story, it is compelling, it is her telling her story, she speaks directly to what you seem to ask about. "Liberal democrats" are in principle not the problem (of course) - those who engage in evil and/or satanic actions are the problem. It is not useful to conflate the two. Whether Nicole Kidman's father -actually- died is another story, and I remember the original story of his death, was by alleged shooting, now it is by heart attack and "a tragic fall" - in any case, the timing is itself an indictment, e.g. being shortly after Barnett released her docco, and I suspect the story changed due to "by shooting" likely being inconvenient/awkward (to the authorities paid to 'certify' the death). Due to all these reasons and more, the Democrat political party is suitably named for present purposes as "demon rats" - those who failed to do their due diligence regarding the factual history of Hilary Clinton and those around her, and yet voted for her/her party in 2016, morally indicted themselves for their own ignorance and/or lack of due diligence. The present gaslighting malarky, including ongoing threats of "endless revolutionary violence if Trump does not concede this November", is also seen in the light of the USA Attorney John "look into muh EYES, nigger" Durham slowly steamrolling along in his investigation of all things "Clinton and Obama", and that the top Democrat party brass'es last and hopefully final attempt to re-take control of the USA judicial system before they "suffer" the force of that system for the deeds of the past" is to oust Trump - if they do so, they will no doubt immediate ditch John Durham, bury his investigation, and whitewash their history of crime. Let's pray that Trump does in fact get re-elected and that the USA can be to a very real degree cleaned up. If Trump either receives insufficient votes in November, or is somehow ousted by non-political means, it shall be a very sad day for Americans, the end of the the USA empire (of itself not such a bad thing per se) but also the beginning of great turmoil for the people of America. On another but related topic: What would be good at this point is some insider Democrat party "vote scribers" to, right after Novermber 3, expose the Democrat party rot of "vote scribing." We saw in 2016 the endless mail in votes, box after box, day after day, with zero audit trails, zero accountability, steadily bringing in more and more votes for Hillary after that election, and no doubt they shall try the same this November. The Dems have all but -promised- this WILL happen. [See email I sent in the last 2 or so days about this.] This is why Trump's call for Republicans to vote early by mail, AND to test the system at the ballot box, is a morally reasonable counter / response, to the Democrat "vote scribes" that we saw in 2016. Democrat/ Demon-rat vote scribers need to be exposed, just AFTER 3rd November 2020, to put a stop to that rot! I don't live in the USA and am far too well identified by my presence on this cp list anyway, so in any case, it is up to others. Shout out to @ProjectVeritas - this is a great scoop which the existence of the West needs if it is to survive past November, otherwise prepare for a Bolshevik style revolution... The other possibility to save the state in November, is that Republicans in the battleground states get door knocking between now and the election - door knocking, emailing, town halling, exposing the Demon-rats, literally a ground swell of door knockers, hundreds or thousands across the 4 to 6 key battleground states. In case you missed it, 2020 is utterly EPIC. 2020 is like nothing we've not seen in our lifetimes. And 2020 is epic for a reason - there is a great spiritual struggle going on, not only externally, but many feel it inside themselves. For all that is good in this world, we are called to take a stand, to do SOMEthing towards that which we believe in. There is much evil that has been done in this world, e.g. much blackmail under fig leaf of the age of consent laws which vary tremendously between countries and even states - how is such blackmail anywhere NEAR justice and righteousness? To the thinking man, it -is- not, has -never- been, and -can never be- anything but -injustice- and the despotic exercise of raw power. We need to drain the swamp. Mossad extortion rackets must be ousted from America. For the good of their own Souls, compromised (blackmailed) politicians ought stand down immediately - do you really want to pay the price at a -later- time, beyond this world? Seriously, the easiest time to pay the price is now, so for the good of our future generations, stand down. Unfortunately we have had insufficient thinking men, and voices not strong enough to speak publicly on such matters, and so we ("the West") are now floundering at the bottom of the barrel and some are wondering what the hell is going on. Point them at Fiona Barnett's documentary, remind them of the Clinton deeds, Seth Rich, Julian Assange. A great testing is going on. Some are found greatly wanting, such as very recently (post- Kyle Rittenhouse), Aaron Danielson's killer, the ANTIFA hunter of Trump supporters Michael Reinoehl: Portland Shooting Suspect Followed Victim Before Killing Him, Newly Released Pictures Show https://sputniknews.com/us/202009061080378580-portland-shooting-suspect-foll... This year is one of the rarest moments in history - one where taking a stand, rather than sitting on the fence pretending to be impartial, is a significant and meaningful act. Choose wisely good people,

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Much evil, demonic, satanic evil.

Trump on QAnon conspiracy theory: 'Is that supposed to be a bad thing?' Trump said he didn't know much about the QAnon movement's followers "other than I understand they like me very much, which I appreciate."

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white-house/trump-qanon-conspiracy-theory-s... ... When reminded by a reporter for NBC News that the movement's followers believe he is fighting to stop a satanic cult of pedophiles and cannibals, he asked: "Is that supposed to be a bad thing?" ... "I haven't heard that. But is that supposed to be a bad thing or a good thing? If I can help save the world from problems, I'm willing to do it, and I'm willing to put myself out there," Trump said. "And we are, actually. We're saving the world from a radical left philosophy that will destroy this country. And when this country is gone, the rest of the world would follow."

Those who attack children such as in the below linked article, are expressing evil - this is their expressing their predatorial right to assault someone, in this case a child, for the reason that that child holds a different political view.

As Marxos taught us, "the left eats its own", as in, the left ends up destroying itself, and some are self professed canibals, so literally eating their own, but mainly "eating their own" means betraying, murdering and destroying their own people and structures.

I note that Fiona Barnett's Candy Girl documentary is kept off of Wikipedia:

I haven't clicked your links yet, but I'm aware that a lot of documentaries about systemic ongoing torture, abuse, slavery are suppressed. Thank you for working on one.

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Documentary_films_about_pedophilia

https://www.innate-awareness.com/post/2018/08/10/fiona-barnetts-statement-ri...

Fiona Barnett - Candy Girl Documentary (Part 1 of 2) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RT3NkHaNfMY Part 2 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-lMEnCZY5E

(Remember that Nicole Kidman's father, Antony Kidman, fled to Singapore immediately after Barnett's "Candy Girl" documentary was released, and died a short time after arriving:

https://www.smh.com.au/entertainment/celebrity/nicole-kidmans-father-dr-anto...

Antony Kidman dies amidst child abuse allegations By Fiona Barnett | 20 September 2014

https://independentaustralia.net/life/life-display/antony-kidman-dies-amidst... ON WHITE BALLOON DAY 2014, September 7, an event meaningful to me because it raises awareness for child sex assault victims, the main perpetrator of my childhood abuse, Antony Kidman, died suddenly in Singapore. )

I choose to stand for righteousness, and to stand opposed to evil.

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I found your email. My dad's a Democrat.

I feel scared and angry seeing the phrase used again. It's also a little comforting, the familiarity of it. I need to know I can feel care among others, work safely with anyone I run into. Would you be willing to describe why you use the phrase, why you share such articles on a list with diverse politics?

On Thu, Sep 3, 2020, 9:58 PM Zenaan Harkness <zen@freedbms.net> wrote:

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Won't you please think of the children, the Democrat demonRats cry as

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attack the children.

The left eats its own, attacks children, and gaslights the nation.

Spare the children? Nah: Police seek Colorado woman who pulled U-turn & PUNCHED 12yo boy on bike for carrying Trump sign https://www.rt.com/usa/499813-colorado-trump-boy-attacked/

Police are looking for a Colorado woman who allegedly assaulted a 12-year-old boy after seeing him carrying a Trump sign on his bicycle – the latest and perhaps most absurd instance of escalating political violence in the US.

The attack reportedly occurred Monday afternoon in Boulder, after a woman on a moped passed a boy riding his bicycle and saw his sign showing support for President Donald Trump. Police said the suspect then made a U-turn, confronted the boy, assaulted him and tried unsuccessfully to take his sign.

A police spokesman told the Denver Post that the woman punched

On Sat, Sep 05, 2020 at 04:30:55PM -0400, Karl wrote: they the

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boy four or five times in the back of the head and arms with a closed fist and scratched him. The suspect was described as a white woman in her late 20s or mid-30s who was riding a gray or blue moped.

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On Sun, Sep 06, 2020 at 09:43:17AM -0400, Karl wrote:

There is so much to say, and too much to read.

Don't stress about it Karl - there's a lot going on this year (as you may have noticed), and even following (reading, viewing) can be overwhelming sometimes - really, it might be important to put some focus on your health and wellbeing (and no, that's not selfish nihilism, that's just taking care of yourself). It's ok (and appreciated) when you contribute, even in a small way, but don't feel you have to reach "some level" or to meet the "expectations of others" - the bit that you do, within the realm of your own capacities, and whilst still maintaining care for your self, is more than enough - I mean hey, doing something, anything, is a hell of a lot more than many nihilists can say :)

What's important for cutting to the mettle is that I have schizophrenia, and I believe this word to often mean having your behavior forcibly hacked by a secret influence, resulting in reliable weirdness that takes you out of the system. It is not a delusion when you have clear proof of mind control, Zenaan, in addition to that held in the histories.

For what it's worth Karl, I do believe that there are actual programs that have been conducted (and may still be ongoing) - whether they are named "MK-Ultra" or have some other name does not really matter, what matters is that a number of people have come forth over the years and talked about their experiences, and for the time being, I take them at their (written) word.

Nor does it mean anyone is evil.

Oh certainly I agree with you - being under the influence of others, does not, per se, make you evil, absolutely not! Evil is appropriately applied to actions, and here and there to certain words (sentences written or spoken), depending on context. If we are going to judge, let's constrain our judgement of "evil", to actions and words. (We may infer intentions but really should not do so, tempting as it may be - we should be very very careful in inferring intention (this might have been what you really were trying to get at, a couple of weeks ago), and generally we should by default refrain from inferring intention, since we cannot know the state of mind (therefore, intention) of the person we judge, nor what is before them or upon them in their life.) So, depending on the specific context, I will sometimes say that a certain action or certain words, are evil. An accusation, accusing another of guilt, publicly, with no evidence, no fair process, is fundamentally evil, it is simply an attack on another, an unrighteous exercise of power (the power to accuse publicly, and thereby try to damage the target of the accusation attack). There are many actions like this which are prima facie evil. And, motive matters. Cause (e.g. evidence) also matters. I have a conscience. By my conscience I know the difference between good and evil. Here's an example of how complex this can get: 1) If poisoning was done TO Navalny (at least, without his consent) then that would certainly be an evil upon him; BUT, 2) That which is being done WITH the Navalny event (accusing Russia and presuming guilt upon Russia/Putin) is certainly evil - it is an evil upon Russia. Evil #1, does not preclude evil #2 - in fact, both evils may be true at the same time, and evidently evil #2 is certainly true, and evil #1 we have no idea about, since the Western powers are presenting no evidence about it, and if the "Navalny poisoning event" is in fact a hoax, then we will never be presented true evidence about evil #1, since it was simply a hoax done so that evil #2 could be done.

But it does mean that many many people, including me, feel incredibly helpless and have very measurable causeless trauma and brain damage. Are these things what you and I are missing?

I feel for you Karl, and I am hearing you. Your journey, from the sound of it, is not an easy journey, and so I encourage you to be satisfied within your present capacity - you don't need more stress than you appear to already have in your life, and some days (or weeks or more), your capacity might be limited to caring for yourself only - AND THAT'S OK! Karl, it is really important that you know that you are enough. Just as you are, is enough. How can anyone (or God or whatever) ask more of you, than you are able to be? That would be wrong of course. You are what you are, and who you are - and if anyone demands more of you than your are, then they are a silly person ... By the way, your openness and honesty is appreciated - and fortunately in this environment (this email list) there is sufficient restraint for folks to actually hear you, and hear at least some of the difficulties you face.

I wanted to keep psychotic topics off the list to protect the highly-skilled people here. I'm not sure why we seem to be blaming unrelated groups for things they happen to overlap with, and I don't want to have a debate war right now but did want to reply, so I'm coming out as schizophrenic to speed this relation up. Let's look for relevant blame that aids the situation rather than pretending that being angry at people could ever make peace at scale.

You sound like you have really positive intentions Karl - and from the sound of it, you've done really well to be able to maintain such positivity through this challenging journey of life that you are on, that you are experiencing - many people don't make it through with their good intentions still intact, so well done. We have no need to blame one another, not at all. Blame gets in the way of good communication. Facts can be painful or difficult, but facts are not blame. I get that some of the terms I use can be a bit triggering for you, and although on some level I have to admit I am looking to trigger people "generally, out there", I am not wanting to bring challenges to someone who is struggling already, that just makes me a bit sad. And so in your case personally Karl, perhaps we can think of some strategies which might help you through the emotional swings that could happen when someone like me gets on my high horse and starts screaming at the world about how much evil there is... ? We can give it a try anyway, like may be for starters "don't take anything I say personally" - could that be helpful? (And truly, I barely know you of course, and so it "ought" be obvious that there is nothing I say that is targetting you personally, as Mirimir correctly pointed out... but sometimes it can be useful to state the obvious.) Here's a second "meta" strategy: if you think you might need another strategy, just ask, and someone, may be me or may be someone else, will give you suggestion or two. Let's try to find some strategies that are useful for you. Good luck,