Re: You need to update your Flattr account
Hi!
Thanks for the kind words and constructional thoughts.
sure, anytime
I guess you are trying to say that there are some EU countries where KYC would not be needed?
More to the point, you shouldn't be efforting to comply with any such shit law. You should be migrating off your web-based platform and doing what others are pursuing - decentralized systems. General Conceptual Examples ~ bitcoin/bitcoin, OpenBazaar, Mastercoin's decentralized exchange, recently launched.
If that is the case you could be correct I can't really say. Never the less is there no payment system that does not operate on a EU wide set of rules.
Well there is the USA. And China. But then you have TISA, are you going to comply with that too?
If you have any other information please share it instead of just being rude. We would love to not need to do the KYC if it where possible. But we can not risk going to jail for it. It's enough that one of us is there already :(
Fail
On bitcoins or crypto currency are that a niche market that is so small that moving over to something like that would topple Flattr over night. Proved by the minuscule usage when we supported it. Maybe they will be more widely adopted in 3-5 years and that we could do something with them then. If we still are around. And yes the people that created the bitcoin processor we used, BIPS probably where rather incompetent. Never the less did we get the stats we needed to decide it was not for us.
Fail
Linus, from his phone.
On 7 jul 2014, at 08:27, coderman <coderman@gmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, Jul 7, 2014 at 8:06 AM, Odinn Cyberguerrilla <odinn.cyberguerrilla@riseup.net> wrote:
... there are alternatives for the users so (use of some decentralized virtual currency options) wouldn't necessitate what you are proposing even in countries where you might be faced with it. Flattr is wrong. Flattr is fail.
sounds like they are also incompetent: """ 4. Flattr has abandoned Bitcoin funding because of “technical issues”. Can you be more specific? What was the exact problem? Was Bitcoin used at all ?
The payment provider had a window of payment of 15 minutes, too many transactions did not arrive during this time and gave us way to many technical issues and admin overhead. Not to say unhappy customers. Bitcoin was used, but it was just a few % of the money added to the system each month. Meaning the problems it caused could not be justified economically. """
Well, I'm not as quick to blame Flattr as others, as they are legally required in some of the largest economies in the west to spy on users like this. But, I'm also not updating or renewing my account to comply with this nonsense. Gittip offers payout by bitcoin, although your address will be visible to all AFAIK. It's a significant improvement over flattr, but still not ideal. On 07/07/14 10:43, Odinn Cyberguerrilla wrote:
Hi!
Thanks for the kind words and constructional thoughts.
sure, anytime
I guess you are trying to say that there are some EU countries where KYC would not be needed?
More to the point, you shouldn't be efforting to comply with any such shit law. You should be migrating off your web-based platform and doing what others are pursuing - decentralized systems. General Conceptual Examples ~ bitcoin/bitcoin, OpenBazaar, Mastercoin's decentralized exchange, recently launched.
If that is the case you could be correct I can't really say. Never the less is there no payment system that does not operate on a EU wide set of rules.
Well there is the USA. And China. But then you have TISA, are you going to comply with that too?
If you have any other information please share it instead of just being rude. We would love to not need to do the KYC if it where possible. But we can not risk going to jail for it. It's enough that one of us is there already :(
Fail
On bitcoins or crypto currency are that a niche market that is so small that moving over to something like that would topple Flattr over night. Proved by the minuscule usage when we supported it. Maybe they will be more widely adopted in 3-5 years and that we could do something with them then. If we still are around. And yes the people that created the bitcoin processor we used, BIPS probably where rather incompetent. Never the less did we get the stats we needed to decide it was not for us.
Fail
Linus, from his phone.
On 7 jul 2014, at 08:27, coderman <coderman@gmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, Jul 7, 2014 at 8:06 AM, Odinn Cyberguerrilla <odinn.cyberguerrilla@riseup.net> wrote:
... there are alternatives for the users so (use of some decentralized virtual currency options) wouldn't necessitate what you are proposing even in countries where you might be faced with it. Flattr is wrong. Flattr is fail.
sounds like they are also incompetent: """ 4. Flattr has abandoned Bitcoin funding because of “technical issues”. Can you be more specific? What was the exact problem? Was Bitcoin used at all ?
The payment provider had a window of payment of 15 minutes, too many transactions did not arrive during this time and gave us way to many technical issues and admin overhead. Not to say unhappy customers. Bitcoin was used, but it was just a few % of the money added to the system each month. Meaning the problems it caused could not be justified economically. """
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