-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA512 it seems we're getting closer to figuring out the alien propulsion technology described by Bob Lazar, others. [ see also, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WpN5PjOxHbo ] so found: """ A pair of researchers at Applied Physics has created what they describe as the first general model for a warp drive, a model for a space craft that could travel faster than the speed of light, without actually breaking the laws of physics... Bobrick and Martire start with the idea of an Alcubierre warp drive, a concept developed by Miguel Alcubierre in 1994—he envisioned it as spacecraft that could contract space time in front of the vehicle while expanding it behind the craft. But such a craft would require a massive amount of negative energy, which would not be feasible for a real spacecraft. Bobrick and Martire suggest instead that a massive gravitational force could be used to bend space time. """ - - https://phys.org/news/2021-03-potential-real-physical-warp.html later this year a government report will be prepared... what will be in it? :) best regards, -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iNUEAREKAH0WIQRBwSuMMH1+IZiqV4FlqEfnwrk4DAUCYELVRl8UgAAAAAAuAChp c3N1ZXItZnByQG5vdGF0aW9ucy5vcGVucGdwLmZpZnRoaG9yc2VtYW4ubmV0NDFD MTJCOEMzMDdEN0UyMTk4QUE1NzgxNjVBODQ3RTdDMkI5MzgwQwAKCRBlqEfnwrk4 DAI6AQDPQq1j5Robj96pdOUjUPQPkXJ7P9k2d7drV2QM/eNHVgEArPjsLD/CqCRu Zlat2rxtrtsp2rnIb5bkNaemNO0yebc= =6aOe -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
[spam] This is total fiction. There's no way that somebody could produce a force at a distance using superconductors [1], a force solely from microwaves resonating within a copper cavity [2], or a force solely from ionization of air around a craft [3]. Regardless, we would need some kind of strange computer smart enough to pursue tasks on its own, and people who actually cared to use the technology, to make it economical to do anything like that. As ludicrous as inferring what was real based on somebody's body language alone without putting wires in their head [4]. 1: https://scholar.google.com/scholar?cites=624881298026677939 2: https://scholar.google.com/scholar?cites=8162894551494157123 (to be debunked or confirmed this year!) 3: https://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=related:04ooGztFnegJ:scholar.google.com 4: https://www.google.com/search?q=sign+language On 3/5/21, coderman <coderman@protonmail.com> wrote:
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it seems we're getting closer to figuring out the alien propulsion technology described by Bob Lazar, others.
[ see also, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WpN5PjOxHbo ]
so found:
""" A pair of researchers at Applied Physics has created what they describe as the first general model for a warp drive, a model for a space craft that could travel faster than the speed of light, without actually breaking the laws of physics...
Bobrick and Martire start with the idea of an Alcubierre warp drive, a concept developed by Miguel Alcubierre in 1994—he envisioned it as spacecraft that could contract space time in front of the vehicle while expanding it behind the craft. But such a craft would require a massive amount of negative energy, which would not be feasible for a real spacecraft. Bobrick and Martire suggest instead that a massive gravitational force could be used to bend space time. """ - - https://phys.org/news/2021-03-potential-real-physical-warp.html
later this year a government report will be prepared... what will be in it? :)
best regards,
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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA512 hello Karl, replies below as usual :) ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ On Saturday, March 6, 2021 2:01 AM, Karl <gmkarl@gmail.com> wrote:
... There's no way that somebody could produce a force at a distance using superconductors [1],
correct; superconductor are good at producing magnetic fields, not gravitational force...
... a force solely from microwaves resonating within a copper cavity [2],
agreed. this has been shown to be measurement error.
.. or a force solely from ionization of air around a craft [3].
agreed. the visual aspects of UAPs is likely secondary excitation due to the gravitational thrust used to propel the craft. [ one other note from the research: they find that the optimal orientiation for such travel is a dish facing forward : the exact position UAP craft use before rapid acceleration... ]
As ludicrous as inferring what was real based on somebody's body language alone without putting wires in their head [4].
this is merely one aspect of credibility: he's not showing obvious signs of deception. consider also the consistency over decades, the overbearing government respose, and the whitewashing of his education and work history... perhaps the forthcoming report will shed some light? :P best regards, -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iNUEAREKAH0WIQRBwSuMMH1+IZiqV4FlqEfnwrk4DAUCYET7e18UgAAAAAAuAChp c3N1ZXItZnByQG5vdGF0aW9ucy5vcGVucGdwLmZpZnRoaG9yc2VtYW4ubmV0NDFD MTJCOEMzMDdEN0UyMTk4QUE1NzgxNjVBODQ3RTdDMkI5MzgwQwAKCRBlqEfnwrk4 DG1eAQCIOGU+v/c5KYFbdWFRtsY20qC38oUqCF9z+y+Y2mUhJQEAhHt2/icbWl5k 34juGsFRrGDHLOGwuq9PiUjgpizQaZg= =vSqj -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA512 consider one final thought experiment: you mentioned super conductors and natural magnets. before we understood electromagnetism, a natural magnet was the strongest magnetic force we would encounter. with super conducting electromagnets, we can generate magnetic fields many orders of magnitude stronger than have ever existed on earth! truly magical :) right now we only know natural gravity : and it's exceptionally weak! imagine being able to create gravitational force, in abundance... warp drive becomes reality :) best regards, -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iNUEAREKAH0WIQRBwSuMMH1+IZiqV4FlqEfnwrk4DAUCYET9ol8UgAAAAAAuAChp c3N1ZXItZnByQG5vdGF0aW9ucy5vcGVucGdwLmZpZnRoaG9yc2VtYW4ubmV0NDFD MTJCOEMzMDdEN0UyMTk4QUE1NzgxNjVBODQ3RTdDMkI5MzgwQwAKCRBlqEfnwrk4 DNCYAPsEDVi3RkM6sea4ull0uqaeKevLSbpxIBkzr9wYzmq55wD+PE3j/gbPTi3A 5aHNsuZx/8k7dRMt2lBhO1C4gJproo8= =NpJM -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
On 3/7/21, coderman <coderman@protonmail.com> wrote:
hello Karl, replies below as usual :)
Hey, I was dissociated differently in my last email. Hope you are well. I am struggling to prioritise and then accomplish decrypting the emails you have sent me.
‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ On Saturday, March 6, 2021 2:01 AM, Karl <gmkarl@gmail.com> wrote:
... There's no way that somebody could produce a force at a distance using superconductors [1],
correct; superconductor are good at producing magnetic fields, not gravitational force...
Do you know what spurred you to post about a warp drive that requires a tethered collapsed mass to function? The podkletnov gravity beam hit the newspapers when I was an adolescent or so. The article said the researcher was hired by Boeing after making an object jump across the room. It's one of the few newspaper articles my parents showed me. The effect is rumored to be debunked by https://sci-hub.se/10.1109/EH.2004.1310847 but they do not actually cite that it is debunked in that paper, simply saying without citation that the experiments "would be difficult and costly to duplicate, and remain unsubstantiated by reliable independent sources." Regardless, gravitoelectric and gravitomagnetic effects aren't really my domain, although if i were a free-wheeling makerhobbyist I might try to make a levitating lawnmower and see for myself. Do you visit email citations?
... a force solely from microwaves resonating within a copper cavity [2],
agreed. this has been shown to be measurement error.
I've been exposed to different information. I thought it was from coupling with the power lines, and was still controversial. I know of a hobbyist trying to build one; how to build a sufficiently conductive cavity overlaps with the goal of shielding.
.. or a force solely from ionization of air around a craft [3].
agreed. the visual aspects of UAPs is likely secondary excitation due to the gravitational thrust used to propel the craft.
[ one other note from the research: they find that the optimal orientiation for such travel is a dish facing forward : the exact position UAP craft use before rapid acceleration... ]
I don't know much, don't really follow UAPs,. It's cool that ʻOumuamua is being touted as an alien craft, and the fact that we are not hunting it down and visiting it with all our effort demonstrates the direness of our ability to cooperate as a species (it's either falsely described, or unfunded, and what a waste if we guess the wrong one of those two).
As ludicrous as inferring what was real based on somebody's body language alone without putting wires in their head [4].
this is merely one aspect of credibility: he's not showing obvious signs of deception.
I actually was on a system that couldn't play video when I read your email, and I'm handling some behavioral limitations right now as I work on a project. With deep learning you can read a _lot_ from body language, now, and I'm sure people can deep fake all the stuff people read, too. I don't imagine we'll _quite_ hit it all at this immediate time in our history. The key to finding truth is remembering that everyone is inherently good, and communication only exists to share it.
consider also the consistency over decades, the overbearing government respose, and the whitewashing of his education and work history...
perhaps the forthcoming report will shed some light? :P
best regards,
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It is nice to see a pgp signature on this list and to reply with one, even though it is not mine. PGP is vulnerable to message filtering, and unsigned-messages containing extensive handwaving.
... There's no way that somebody could produce a force at a distance using superconductors [1],
correct; superconductor are good at producing magnetic fields, not gravitational force...
Do you know what spurred you to post about a warp drive that requires a tethered collapsed mass to function?
The podkletnov gravity beam hit the newspapers when I was an adolescent or so. The article said the researcher was hired by Boeing after making an object jump across the room. It's one of the few newspaper articles my parents showed me.
I looked into this a little more, valuing my memories, and am presently holding it with skepticism. An interview with podkletnov it sounds like he is lying, to me, because he refuses final details that could be used to verify his work. The article I recall reading did not seem to be about a russian, and I am aware that news firms will produce topic articles for pay. But most importantly I am a very confused person and should not be spending time focusing on extra things that are hard to discern the truth of. I get delusional and stuff, and consensus reality helps.
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