----- Forwarded message from Don Marti <dmarti@zgp.org> ----- Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 05:38:11 -0700 From: Don Marti <dmarti@zgp.org> To: linux-elitists@zgp.org Subject: Re: [linux-elitists] Evil in certain broadband marketsa isn't really evil User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) begin Rick Moen quotation of Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 05:07:50PM -0700:

http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2013/07/google-neutrality/ Now That It's in the Broadband Game, Google Flip-Flops on Network Neutrality

Douglas McClendon sounds like our kind of people. http://cloudsession.com/dawg/downloads/misc/kag-draft-2k121024.pdf http://cloudsession.com/dawg/profile/ I posted this in a thread on this topic on another mailing list where some relevant Google people are also active: Thanks to the CFAA, violating your ToS is a _felony_. I understand that you want to use plain language, and not be "lawyerly", but if you're a ToS writer, Federal law has been outsourced to you, and you have to deal with it. (CFAA reform is a separate issue--I'm just talking about the law as it stands now.) How can you tell people, "you're party to a legally binding contract that can put you in Federal prison if you violate it, but go ahead and break it, off the record we're fine with that"? It's as if someone interrupted the office Nerf gun wars to take your Nerf pistol and hand you a real gun -- and you kept playing. -- Don Marti +1-510-332-1587 (mobile) http://zgp.org/~dmarti/ Alameda, California, USA dmarti@zgp.org _______________________________________________ Do not Cc: anyone else on mail sent to this list. The list server is set for maximum one recipient. linux-elitists mailing list linux-elitists@zgp.org http://zgp.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/linux-elitists ----- End forwarded message ----- -- Eugen* Leitl <a href="http://leitl.org">leitl</a> http://leitl.org ______________________________________________________________ ICBM: 48.07100, 11.36820 http://ativel.com http://postbiota.org AC894EC5: 38A5 5F46 A4FF 59B8 336B 47EE F46E 3489 AC89 4EC5