Snowden dump scope defined, now to details... [was: NSA Spying Relies on AT&T'S "Extreme Willingness to Help"]
On 8/16/15, John Young <jya@pipeline.com> wrote:
The NYT-Propublica is an informative and impressive release, in many ways better than previous. It expands on the earlier revelations (as the narratives state) with some overlap and filling in gaps. A good sign the holders of the balance of the Snowden dump are digging deeper and learning how convey a fuller picture
this has been the most interesting observation on reporting over the last year across the channeled Snowden dataspill. with the bulk of significant revelations identified and conveyed, the trend now clearly toward fill rather than reach. all of the clamor for immediate and full disclosure perhaps under stated the scope of unique and noteworthy aspects contained within material that is also significantly banal, un-informative filler. in any case, i look forward to the details better defining the day to day operations of a super power intelligence apparatus so that we may better defend against this class as a whole, in the future. best regards,
On Sun, Aug 16, 2015 at 7:30 PM, coderman <coderman@gmail.com> wrote:
with the bulk of significant revelations identified and conveyed, the trend now clearly toward fill rather than reach.
Fill is great, but if this is the end of breadth, it is a sad day indeed. (I'm still taking odds on some significant dumps both shortly before [as disruptive] and after [as legislative] the US elections.) But there are many other things that need more light... what is their status on crypto? Their bigdata analysis capabilities? And more generally... what people's governments are doing in (and not in) their name and in secret, both for and against them?
WHAT? i despise the snowden fans like lp and gg but... you are criticising their depth and this is as deep as you go? so to answer your question about details of day to day ops they do EVERYTHING - define everything as 'interests' of the nation and its all determined by the executive branch - congress has information - supposedly controls the purse but watery issue and the courts are not involved at all especially with foreign issues because the law in the US is based on precedent and some supreme court set stated that the executive branch is the 'sole organ of foreign affairs' what are their tech capabilities? everything they can get their hands on so work on everything and that will be your best stab at defence i am being rude here but my point is that if we are always just trying to put out fires of the power people then what is really being built and it is a soap opera theatre piece ... very engaging saga ... if it is disengaged from then what does that look like? http://www.ted.com/talks/tim_berners_lee_on_the_next_web?language=en what did he do - he worked on what was in front of him data but its not the only thing there are lots of things - you are a unique point in the space time circle cone only you can really know what you need to work on and part of your interface is like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UyyjU8fzEYU and this has a lot of information that conveys what to do & even how to do it - its not completely accurate (as she has limited frames to convey the information) but she gives a break down of the structure we are in On Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at 8:17 AM, grarpamp <grarpamp@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sun, Aug 16, 2015 at 7:30 PM, coderman <coderman@gmail.com> wrote:
with the bulk of significant revelations identified and conveyed, the trend now clearly toward fill rather than reach.
Fill is great, but if this is the end of breadth, it is a sad day indeed. (I'm still taking odds on some significant dumps both shortly before [as disruptive] and after [as legislative] the US elections.) But there are many other things that need more light... what is their status on crypto? Their bigdata analysis capabilities? And more generally... what people's governments are doing in (and not in) their name and in secret, both for and against them?
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