jy’s 'partner' in cryptome is a woman called natsios, whose father was a high ranking CIA criminal. Now, maybe natsios rightfully hated her piece of shit father. Or maybe not, in which case it would seem that cryptome has close ties to the CIA.

Actually ı don’t know this information. That’s may be.Because John knew that a CIA agent leaked the leak on Tor years ago

you mean appelbaum ?

Excatly. Are any of us charged with any other harassment charges? Or rape? I mean, being in women’s lib I’d like to know..The charge of treason is acceptable here, but harassment is unacceptable Sent from ProtonMail for iOS Açık Çar, Eyl 29, 2021 21:07, Punk-BatSoup-Stasi 2.0 <punks@tfwno.gf> yazdı:

On Wed, 29 Sep 2021 17:30:34 +0000 zeynepaydogan <zeynepaydogan@protonmail.com> wrote:

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There are more rude and fascist people here. We have American agent John Young here.

Here are my observations on john young, architect.

1) I don't think cryptome has ever published anything that the US govt objected to. Unlike assange, jy has never been jailed for posting stuff to the arpanet.

2) jy's 'partner' in cryptome is a woman called natsios, whose father was a high ranking CIA criminal. Now, maybe natsios rightfully hated her piece of shit father. Or maybe not, in which case it would seem that cryptome has close ties to the CIA.

3) jy has made a number of repulsive feminazi comments and has gone as far as badmouthing stallman when stallma was being lynched for telling the truth about whores. Being a feminazi is a pretty big red flag in my book.

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There's someone among us who hasn't denied the allegations of harassment. He still hasn't come out and denied it, he's hiding around, but he's sending us an e-mail.

you mean appelbaum ?

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but everyone can be tolerated, but no respect for Jim Bell? But Jim bell's a moron? Jim Bell is nicer than anyone on this mailing list. He's an important cypherpunk, so respect him

I'm appealing to Jim's rational faculties and gave him some rather valuable information. The blatant fraud of AIDS which was the forerunner to the current fascist flu farce is something every libertarian should know about.

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Açık Çar, Eyl 29, 2021 18:27, Punk-BatSoup-Stasi 2.0 <punks@tfwno.gf> yazdı:

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Hey Jim, I was wondering what you think about the AIDS fraud, denounced by Pretty High Scientific Authorities like Kary Mullis (chemistry nobel prize winner inventor of PCR), and Peter Duesberg.

http://duesberg.com/subject/africa2.html

You are a self described 'libertarian' and yet I haven't seen you say a word about the total corruption of the medical mafia, the pharmaceutical mafia, the fact that they are close accomplices of the government, and the fact that all of them in the last two years have violated the individual rights of 1000s of millions of people with total impunity.

Even if you were an ignorant, cowardly, technofascist fucktard who understand nothing of 'epidemics', you should realize that the political aspect of the fascist flu farce doesn't add up? And then you should learn the A of ABC of 'science'?

http://duesberg.com/subject/africa2.html

On 29/09/2021 20:11, jim bell wrote:

Okay, I just saw this.  I will give a much more detailed answer, probably later today.

Keep in mind that while I try to be conversant in many scientific fields, biology is probably my least-educated field.   But yes, I heard of Kary Mullis a few decades ago.

Newton believed in astrology. So did Mullis. Mullis was good at chemistry and early biochemistry. He wasn't good at any other kind of science. The only research or other work Mullis did in AIDS was to develop a test for the HIV virus ..(which he supposedly didn't believe in). Also, he later changed his position to saying publicly that retroviruses cause AIDS. In science we revere the science, not the scientist - or we should. Scientists are only human, they are fallible, they make mistakes, lie, aggrandise themselves. Sadly we don't always follow that principle, but in general we do - that generality gives us the consensus view, which is usually right. That's the whole point of science - that it is right. A couple of people I know are at the top in their fields, and they take excruciating care that what they say in their field is correct. I'm not a top cryptologist, but I take the same sort of care in my crypto work. That doesn't mean we have to take care about what we say, or even be knowledgable, in other fields. I would take their opinions about their work seriously, because I know they are both knowledgeable and careful about that. Doesn't mean I take their advice on child care or driving seriously. I blame the media. A "scientist" is usually only knowledgeable in a small field - they say it takes 10,000 hours to be good in one field, there are thousands of fields in science - the science generalist, who tries to know a bit about everything, can't spend 10,000 hours on learning about each and every one of them. So when a "scientist" says dubious things about something which is not in his field, we should take no more notice of him than we would take of anyone else - he probably doesn't know what he is talking about. I used to be a chemist, many years ago. I am still OK on some types of chemistry, but if you asked me eg a flavour chemistry question I wouldn't know the answer. If you asked nicely I might look it up for you (one thing you learn is how to look things up, but then nowadays there is google), or for my own edification. I might even forget to mention that I had to look it up. However I wouldn't make things up. But that's just me, other people do make things up. It is then hard and possibly career-limiting to admit you were wrong.. Peter Fairbrother

      Jim Bell

On Wed, Sep 29, 2021 at 8:28 AM, Punk-BatSoup-Stasi 2.0 <punks@tfwno.gf> wrote:

    Hey Jim, I was wondering what you think about the AIDS fraud, denounced by Pretty High Scientific Authorities like Kary Mullis (chemistry nobel prize winner inventor of PCR), and Peter Duesberg.

http://duesberg.com/subject/africa2.html <http://duesberg.com/subject/africa2.html>

    You are a self described 'libertarian' and yet I haven't seen you say a word about the total corruption of the medical mafia, the pharmaceutical mafia, the fact that they are close accomplices of the government, and the fact that all of them in the last two years have violated the individual rights of 1000s of millions of people with total impunity.

    Even if you were an ignorant, cowardly, technofascist fucktard who understand nothing of 'epidemics', you should realize that the political aspect of the fascist flu farce doesn't add up? And then you should learn the A of ABC of 'science'?

http://duesberg.com/subject/africa2.html <http://duesberg.com/subject/africa2.html>

On Wed, 29 Sep 2021 21:25:16 +0100 Peter Fairbrother <peter@tsto.co.uk> vomited:

The only research or other work Mullis did in AIDS was to develop a test for the HIV virus ..(which he supposedly didn't believe in).

For completness sake and to further show that this 'fairbrother' government turd does not have a clue. Mullis was supposed to 'develop' a 'test' for the fake AIDS, and that's exactly when he started to look into the scam. " Four years later I was working as a consultant at Specialty Labs in Santa Monica. Specialty was trying to develop a means of using PCR to detect retroviruses in the thousands of blood donations received per day by the Red Cross. I was writing a report on our progress for the project sponsor, and I began by stating, “HIV is the probable cause of AIDS.” I asked a virologist at Specialty where I could find the reference for HIV being the cause of AIDS. “You don’t need a reference,” he told me. “Everybody knows it.” “I’d like to quote a reference.” I felt a little funny about not knowing the source of such an important discovery. Everyone else seemed to. “Why don’t you cite the CDC report?” he suggested, giving me a copy of the Center for Disease Control’s periodic report on morbidity and mortality. I read it. It wasn’t a scientific article. It simply said that an organism had been identified —it did not say how. [more reference searching ommited] I was driving from Berkeley to La Jolla and I heard an interview on National Public Radio with Peter Duesberg, a prominent virologist at Berkeley. I finally understood why I was having so much trouble finding the references that linked HIV to AIDS. There weren’t any, Duesberg said. No one had ever proven that HIV causes AIDS. "

Also, he later changed his position to saying publicly that retroviruses cause AIDS.

more made up bullshit.

If you asked nicely I might look it up for you

the only thing I need from you is for you to kill yourself, you worthless piece of shit.

On Thu, 30 Sep 2021 11:07:45 -0700 jdb10987@yahoo.com wrote:

A lot of very interesting information I hadn't seen before. Has this material been rebutted?

Not that I'm aware. But of course agent fairbrother already 'rebutted' the obvious facts that Duesberg cites by saying "mullis believed in astrology". So, anyway, what's your take on this? There's never been an 'aids' epidemic. There hasn't been a natural immune response to it, because there's nothing to respond to. And shockingly enough, there's no 'aids' vaccine either. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HIV_vaccine "There is currently no licensed HIV vaccine on the market, but multiple research projects are trying to find an effective vaccine. " LMAO!!! So how could this be possible eh? 40 years of AIDS scam and there's no 'effective' vaccine?

While in prison and in 2007, I met a very interesting, very old bank robber, Murray Woodworth.

https://caselaw.findlaw.com/us-7th-circuit/1316566.html

In 1960, he worked in the Belgian Congo, just before they had their then-famous revolution. He told me that there had been a disease, "slim disease".

I had probably first heard of "slim disease" in the mid--late 1980's. It was apparently AIDS.

Except aids doesn't exist.