We welcome NSLs, tango downs, malware, shutdowns, DMCA demands, hacks, official visits and warnings, fingerpointing and accusations, subpoenas, and indictments. If happened, published. No indictments, yet. "Bluffs will be published if comical but otherwise ignored." Our geriatric blurb: Cryptome welcomes documents for publication that are prohibited by governments worldwide, in particular material on freedom of expression, privacy, cryptology, dual-use technologies, national security, intelligence, and secret governance -- open, secret and classified documents -- but not limited to those. Documents are removed from this site only by order served directly by a US court having jurisdiction. No court order has ever been served; any order served will be published here -- or elsewhere if gagged by order. Bluffs will be published if comical but otherwise ignored. At 06:50 PM 10/11/2015, you wrote:

Despite almost two decades of cypherpunk activity I cannot fathom why U.S. residents operate sites clearly in the cross-hairs of intel agencies. Have they never heard of non-resident nominee officers and directors? All U.S. resident people dealing with the site should be bona fide contractors so they aren't subject to either receiving or implementing court orders or NSLs.

-------- Original Message -------- From: bbrewer Apparently from: cypherpunks-bounces@cpunks.org To: Michael Best Cc: cpunks , cryptome Subject: Re: [cryptome] Re: Why cryptome sold web logs to their payingcustomers? Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2015 16:30:00 -0400

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On Oct 11, 2015, at 4:22 PM, Michael Best wrote:

Anyway to rule this out other than hearing

it from John? How long before we begin to seriously consider it or assume it?

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And if there was a NSL, why not shut down?

Why put users at ongoing risk??

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lavabit

"Levison said that he could be arrested for closing the site instead of releasing the information, and it was reported that the federal prosecutor's office had sent Levison's lawyer an e-mail to that effect.”

I’m just blabbering on suppositions here, but I wouldn’t be surprised by… anything.

-benjamin

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA512 How does an individual become a "bona fide contractor" to avoid being "subject to either receiving or implementing court orders or NSLs" as you put it, and in what circumstances would I want to be a "bona fide contractor?" I am certain not everyone would want to be one, for various reasons. wirelesswarrior@safe-mail.net:

Despite almost two decades of cypherpunk activity I cannot fathom why U.S. residents operate sites clearly in the cross-hairs of intel agencies. Have they never heard of non-resident nominee officers and directors? All U.S. resident people dealing with the site should be bona fide contractors so they aren't subject to either receiving or implementing court orders or NSLs.

-------- Original Message -------- From: bbrewer Apparently from: cypherpunks-bounces@cpunks.org To: Michael Best Cc: cpunks , cryptome Subject: Re: [cryptome] Re: Why cryptome sold web logs to their payingcustomers? Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2015 16:30:00 -0400

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On Oct 11, 2015, at 4:22 PM, Michael Best wrote:

Anyway to rule this out other than hearing it from John? How long before we begin to seriously consider it or assume it?

And if there was a NSL, why not shut down? Why put users at ongoing risk??

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lavabit

"Levison said that he could be arrested for closing the site instead of releasing the information, and it was reported that the federal prosecutor's office had sent Levison's lawyer an e-mail to that effect.”

I’m just blabbering on suppositions here, but I wouldn’t be surprised by… anything.

-benjamin

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