over on the OSS list i have been venting some bullshit friction over
the full-disclosure cave in and closure.
for shame! see also thread on more better mixmasters,
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From: coderman
Date: Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 3:18 AM
Subject: Re: FD mailing list died. Time for new one (or something better!)
To: oss-security@lists.openwall.com
a modest and proportionate proposal,
fuller-disclosure:
- a hidden list (local accts only, no clearnet linkage)
- a hidden daily digest (per mod prefs, see below)
- a hidden xmpp (otr required - plaintext abused)
- a hidden web archive (of the list traffic, read-only)
- a hidden public chat (group xmpp+/|ircd, no clearnet linkage)
- a hidden pastebin with or without simple nonce auth
- a advogato reputation sys to stack rank and put below the fold
(for list digest content, public chat, web archive, and public pastes)
use case A: "JerkVendor is Jerk"
- more accomodating disclosure fails,
good faith and gratis effort returned with bile.
- bugtraq drama ensues, takedowns.
- "Hey, the advisory is still up here! -> fullerd.onion/..."
use case B: "The Hot Drop"
- *whispers* 'remember the Athens Affair? i'd rather not Opt-Out to report'
- BREAKING NEWS: "Anonymous russian hackers drop dox on spyhack to
darknet fullerd.onion..."
use case C: "It's my party and I'll..."
- 'so how it happened was,
, i coaxed pre-auth SSL cert parsefail remote exec with escalate to system'
- "Hey DEF CON! fuck that full-disclosure closure drama,
let's get this party started!"
- DEF CON XX official start and group xmpp/ircd distributes nonce for
0day to thousands of hidden participants simultaneously.
[ remainder of distribution happens over sneakernet at con
due to unexplained outage across entire Tor network for all users... ]
not a concern at all, ever:
- "HOLY SHIT TAKE THAT DOWN NOW!!!" legal motions
- "HOLY SHIT TAKE THAT DOWN NOW!!!" supporter/peer pressure
- "HOLY SHIT TAKE THAT DOWN NOW!!!" matters of national security
- "HOLY SHIT TAKE THAT DOWN NOW!!!" hint in datagram at 100Gbps
[ the inverse is use case D: "99.44% Peace of Mind" ]
i don't see the point in anything less; other technologies filling
existing roles fine, while the truly necessary drops have zero outlet.
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finding someone with strong reputation and good judgement to publicly
validate and speak to the efforts of the equally reputable but
absolutely anonymous service operator?
... now that's a hard sell ... *grin*