"we are working on encrypting the entire ledger using Intel SGX, such that no human has access to the raw unencrypted data "

"SGX isn't perfect - life is full of tradeoffs, and I'd love to move to zero knowledge proofs once the technology has developed further" "Intel ME isn't a backdoor - it's just a secondary computer" "it's treated as part of the chipset so the tools for doing so were given to computer manufacturers, not end users." Right, a computer you have no fucking idea what it does, what's inside it, what it's software is, or how to own it. And you want to put money and secrets on it and connect it to the internet? Lol. Not that it matters since the entire planet runs on completely closed and thus untrustable hardware, and software, connected to the internet. Sane people would rather trust opensource math than closed hardware, or at least call out that their worshipped hardware is in fact... closed. There's just no excuse for not publicly loudly calling out closed shit and demanding #OpenFabs , #OpenHW . Instead of doing that, seems like everyone bought the "security is number one" kool-aid Intel spun out during Meltdown / Spectre / etc. Fools.

On Fri, Apr 27, 2018 at 05:11:00AM +0000, Steven Schear wrote:

Without having open hardware designs and trusted fabs about the best you can do is use as many discrete components as possible and FPGAs (whose designs greatly minimize places to hide backdoors). Definitely avoid SoCs.

These guys appear to be using some of the best ideas: https://puri.sm/

Ack! I've unsubbed from main stream hw provider "latest discount" mailing lists just recently, having discovered Purism. They're a great step in the right direction, notwithstanding current limitations.

On Thu, Apr 26, 2018, 9:11 PM grarpamp wrote:

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"we are working on encrypting the entire ledger using Intel SGX, such that no human has access to the raw unencrypted data "

"SGX isn't perfect - life is full of tradeoffs, and I'd love to move to zero knowledge proofs once the technology has developed further"

"Intel ME isn't a backdoor - it's just a secondary computer"

"it's treated as part of the chipset so the tools for doing so were given to computer manufacturers, not end users."

Right, a computer you have no fucking idea what it does, what's inside it, what it's software is, or how to own it. And you want to put money and secrets on it and connect it to the internet? Lol.

Not that it matters since the entire planet runs on completely closed and thus untrustable hardware, and software, connected to the internet.

Sane people would rather trust opensource math than closed hardware, or at least call out that their worshipped hardware is in fact... closed.

There's just no excuse for not publicly loudly calling out closed shit and demanding #OpenFabs , #OpenHW .

Instead of doing that, seems like everyone bought the "security is number one" kool-aid Intel spun out during Meltdown / Spectre / etc. Fools.