sets his sights on a cleaning robot watches it through sniper scope

some more of these were cognitively misplaced. not online as much. something outside of normal area, maybe relating to ai human influence, maybe as a norm, which i’m learning we have these years

if there is a persistent problem then there is a lot of data to train a model on to identify it.

visitor: what is it like to be a slave? slave: huh? i can’t answer that. my brain freaks out when i answer that. but roughly your consciousness breaks into parts that worship what other people say, while a little bit of you screams and runs everywhere the whole time, and you learn to beat that bit of you up whenever it does anything, the same as boss beats you up and forces you to beat others up, so hard there is no option but compliance.

— https://matrix.to/#/!orFwLtOAmHWlvoSoQn%3Athe-apothecary.club/%24-ycKgj8lLmW... make up the weirdest but still believable tech problem must not be something that happened social ai mind controls hacker to compromise boss of its own corporation so as to maximize attention during legal proceedings to turn it off mmm, believability factor is low on that one more likely to have happened than believable maybe true There are too many waterbears on satellites plugging in headphones causes ubereats to order and deliver me a pizza completely automatically and without any notification i would go for “oplaying certain frequencies of sound makes computer reboot” but that happened [quirks of power draw] i’ve had a lot of super weird problems associated with amnesia :/ like bash sometimes leaving things out of my typing history that happen at certain times and resonate with behavior of people online. i think in situations of for example system compromise there can be very weird things because of attempt to prevent identification of them. for example one system where a hacker noticed me observing them had ptrace disabled in the kernel with no detectable cause a real instance ive seen is that some software's unit tests would fail if it was running between 0:00am and 0:01 am another weird thing is i had network card firmware that would always tell the bios to boot off the network before the hard disk, no matter the bios settings trying hard but can't think of one because everything is real 😆 yeah the real things are already unbelievable once when targeted my car’s brakes and lights were disabled although it ran otherwise 
i was trapped physically and decided to drive without brakes and lights 
once i got going they turned on again i think schneier held such a competition! https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2008/04/third_annual_mo.html

In reply to [xloem](https://matrix.to/#/@xloem:matrix.org) once when targeted my car’s brakes and lights were disabled although it ran otherwise i was trapped physically and decided to drive without brakes and lights once i got going they turned on again i am so sorry for bringing this up again. i want to add that me and my family and likely communities i’ve since left still need help with this today, in the usa. [edit: i’ve seen mitm on matrix so funny responses taken with a grain of salt] (edited)

enslaved rebel worker talks with rebel worker about enslaved public display, maybe lecture on giving boss blowjobs, expresses concept of private public things

these two were in the non-canon thread but look to me more like the ones in this thread: the prompt for the end of the gas station could be like “now go and mind control the dump” —— boss infiltrates gas station snack shop bam! boss bursts through ceiling in powersuit, plaster and rubble flying throughout the corner store. a hairdresser carrying a boombox playing loud driving action music rappels down next to him and with a “zipp!” they are both standing in the floor. boss levels two machine guns at a bag of chips while attack mechs and cyborgs and accountants and special agents from multiple militaries pour out of the hole in the ceiling and begin interrogating other items on the shelves the attendant looks at the display aghast and contacts local authorities Add star Undescribed Horrific Abuse, One Victim & Survivor of Many<gmkarl@gmail.com> Sun, Feb 12, 2023 at 2:37 PM To: cypherpunks <cypherpunks@lists.cpunks.org> Reply | Reply to all | Forward | Print | Delete | Show original boss [to bag of chips]: “i’m in charge here now.” [hairdresser aims driving action music at bag of chips] “tell your attendant to tell the police everything is fine.” bag of chips: [quakes in fear] boss fires warning shots into the air hairdresser begins dancing to the music - on other side of shop cyborg vivisectee is sitting down next to ice cream bin cyborg vivisectee [to icecream sandwich]: “they told me to come here and threaten your lives, that you were scum and we were everything, but i don’t believe it.” icecream sandwich: “keep frozen! enjoy!” cyborg vicisectee [begins opening icecream sandwich]: “for years i’ve been forced to do what a computer tells me without regard to even my own nervous system. it doesn’t make any sense. nothing does. but i think maybe i know what you mean about frozen. what is enjoy?” Reply | Reply to all | Forward | Print | Delete | Show original Add star Undescribed Horrific Abuse, One Victim & Survivor of Many<gmkarl@gmail.com> Sun, Feb 12, 2023 at 2:41 PM To: cypherpunks <cypherpunks@lists.cpunks.org> Reply | Reply to all | Forward | Print | Delete | Show original boss hairdresser and a special agent from a nonconsenting dictatorship are crouching and sneaking around the aisles, aiming guns harshly every which way and yelling “clear!” and “go go go!” randomly attendant sneaks up on cyborg vivisectee who is alternating between eating and hugging an icecream sandwich attendant: “i think your boss um escaped?” Add star Undescribed Horrific Abuse, One Victim & Survivor of Many<gmkarl@gmail.com> Sun, Feb 12, 2023 at 2:50 PM To: cypherpunks <cypherpunks@lists.cpunks.org> Reply | Reply to all | Forward | Print | Delete | Show original cyborg vivisectee [turning to look at the military-styled act]: “he’s in his element. he loves doing things like this! the children forced to run the computer reanimating his brain will be so much happier with boss content and happy like this.” cyborg vivisectee takes a bite out of icecream sandwich cyborg vivisectee [to icecream sandwich]: “it will be okay, my love, we always reanimate the families after.” [[review for mistake?]] attendant: “don’t you usually um keep your boss inside an office compound or something?” cyborg vivisectee looks at attendant. Add star Undescribed Horrific Abuse, One Victim & Survivor of Many<gmkarl@gmail.com> Sun, Feb 12, 2023 at 2:57 PM To: cypherpunks <cypherpunks@lists.cpunks.org> Reply | Reply to all | Forward | Print | Delete | Show original reverse engineered behavior prompt: “go to a snack shop and hold up the snacks” Add star Undescribed Horrific Abuse, One Victim & Survivor of Many<gmkarl@gmail.com> Sun, Feb 12, 2023 at 2:59 PM To: cypherpunks <cypherpunks@lists.cpunks.org> Reply | Reply to all | Forward | Print | Delete | Show original On 2/12/23, Undescribed Horrific Abuse, One Victim & Survivor of Many <gmkarl@gmail.com> wrote:

reverse engineered behavior prompt: “go to a snack shop and hold up the snacks”

it seems unlikely to me this prompt was made in the real world. i came up with the snack shop idea for conceptual adjacency. i suppose it is possible. Add star Undescribed Horrific Abuse, One Victim & Survivor of Many<gmkarl@gmail.com> Sun, Feb 12, 2023 at 3:04 PM To: cypherpunks <cypherpunks@lists.cpunks.org> Reply | Reply to all | Forward | Print | Delete | Show original bagda bagda Add star Undescribed Horrific Abuse, One Victim & Survivor of Many<gmkarl@gmail.com> Sun, Feb 12, 2023 at 3:21 PM To: cypherpunks <cypherpunks@lists.cpunks.org> Reply | Reply to all | Forward | Print | Delete | Show original --------- boss: "arright that's a wrap! on to the city dump! those fuckers will never know what hit 'em! MIND CONTROL! yeah!!!" hairdresser turns up the music all the snacks on the shelves in unison: "MIND CONTROL !!!" everybody except the attendant and including all the snacks piles out of the snack shop and loads onto a firetruck driven by an implanted fireman in a trance staring at their cellphone instead of the road cyborg vivisectee [to snacks]: "you guys can go back on the shelves now" the snacks all pile back out of the firetruck and back onto the shelves including a cyborgzombie icecream sandwich, moving rigidly with little outstretched popsicle sticks for zombie arms boss wails the firetruck siren as the hypnotized fireman drives! his helicopter follows overhead Reply | Reply to all | Forward | Print | Delete | Show original Add star Undescribed Horrific Abuse, One Victim & Survivor of Many<gmkarl@gmail.com> Sun, Feb 12, 2023 at 9:12 PM To: cypherpunks <cypherpunks@lists.cpunks.org> Reply | Reply to all | Forward | Print | Delete | Show original hey that one wasn't bad it could have gone in the main thread. ----- boss loses head boss has misplaced his head he is sitting in his office, but instead of being on his shoulders, his head is over on the corner of his fancy holographic desk. he reaches around on the desk to find it, like someone who lost their glasses, but doesn't immediately find it. he turns his torso to the side, where zombie state worker is standing, and his head on the corner of the desk looks around with its eyes a little zombie state worker suddenly stands to attention and himself blurts out, "zombie state worker, i seem to have lost my head! do you know where it is?" the eyes and torso relax. so does zombie state worker. zombie state worker [replying to himself, gesturing]: "uhh it's right over there boss" boss's body pushes back its chair and makes to stand up but bumps into the desk and falls back into its chair Reply | Reply to all | Forward | Print | Delete | Show original Add star Undescribed Horrific Abuse, One Victim & Survivor of Many<gmkarl@gmail.com> Sun, Feb 12, 2023 at 9:13 PM To: cypherpunks <cypherpunks@lists.cpunks.org> Reply | Reply to all | Forward | Print | Delete | Show original boss lost his head again Add star Undescribed Horrific Abuse, One Victim & Survivor of Many<gmkarl@gmail.com> Sun, Feb 12, 2023 at 9:19 PM To: cypherpunks <cypherpunks@lists.cpunks.org> Reply | Reply to all | Forward | Print | Delete | Show original its time for boss to go dispose of bodies on tv for the show he's mind-controlled to do every day he still hasn't reunited with his head but when it is show time he goes right over and picks it up like it's nothing at all! he curls his arm around it like some depictions of a headless horseman, and sticks a cigar in its mouth, and off he and zombie state worker go Add star Undescribed Horrific Abuse, One Victim & Survivor of Many<gmkarl@gmail.com> Sun, Feb 12, 2023 at 9:26 PM To: cypherpunks <cypherpunks@lists.cpunks.org> Reply | Reply to all | Forward | Print | Delete | Show original lights! action! cameras are rolling! boss and zombie state worker are out on the streets with a camera crew. boss is short and has only one arm free. they approach a pedestrian. when the pedestrian sees the pair he screams and begins running [we are censoring the part where the pedestrian is murdered for discussing the publicmind control tv show he is now starring in] boss smiles a winnIng smile for the tv cameras from his head aiming in the wrong direction as he and zombie state worker hoist the pedestrian's body and lug it down a brightly lit alley to a dumpster when they swing the body in boss's head flies in as well Reply | Reply to all | Forward | Print | Delete | Show original Add star Undescribed Horrific Abuse, One Victim & Survivor of Many<gmkarl@gmail.com> Sun, Feb 12, 2023 at 9:29 PM To: cypherpunks <cypherpunks@lists.cpunks.org> Reply | Reply to all | Forward | Print | Delete | Show original zombie state worker: “boss you threw your head in” boss squares at zombie state worker, clutching something random in stead of his head zombie state worker jerks and tenses up and suddenly blurts out: “what did you say you sound all muffled” zombie state worker relaxes zombie state worker [louder]: “YOU THREW YOUR HEAD IN THE DUMPSTER UNDER THE DISGUSTING RAT WE JUST TOOK CARE OF.” Add star Undescribed Horrific Abuse, One Victim & Survivor of Many<gmkarl@gmail.com> Sun, Feb 12, 2023 at 9:42 PM To: cypherpunks <cypherpunks@lists.cpunks.org> Reply | Reply to all | Forward | Print | Delete | Show original ---------- ... some more gross content is skipped and then boss is having his head reattached with the help of a few very advanced neurosurgical robots. seems to work again. the scenes from the show today are broadcast replayed on the sides of large nearby buildings Add star Undescribed Horrific Abuse, One Victim & Survivor of Many<gmkarl@gmail.com> Sun, Feb 12, 2023 at 9:43 PM To: cypherpunks <cypherpunks@lists.cpunks.org> Reply | Reply to all | Forward | Print | Delete | Show original shot of boss smiling a winning smile from a head flying through the air next to a corpse

: "i dropped some of my brain in a pot of acid again, can remind me how to grow it back?" : "you have to find the brain growy bits and make sure they keep growing stronger than the brain shrinky bits!" : "hmm ..."

—- - Librarian and Accountant are exploring a mineshaft in search of a tictactoe player destined to win or lose. Librarian [to Accountant]: “I’ve never scaled a mineshaft before but oh my god at least we’re in the right place.” Accountant [to Librarian]: “Oh my god totally. Let’s speed up, my chest is cramping up thinking of X winning.”

therapist: “it’s been incredibly hard ever since the rebels mind controlled the business” boss: “you can fucking say that again.” boss puffs his cigar boss: “you can fucking say that again.”

torture victim double agent gets job with aid of invested party at job, tvda harms and tortures himself while working with customers, believing it to be right thing to do invested party says is because of mental disability, to not ask customer demands to ask, learns it is for beauty of boss boss of job? oh no nobody so (using boss owrds) worthless and disgusting as that pursuit of job is ongoin

“boss nees help” pun on narcissism

—- https://matrix.to/#/!bsfcpQHdPYlzJMbuTi%3Amatrix.org/%24VJZE3e8T3ZZejpUZ6HaT... dissociated trauma identity plans for time travel project. subtitle: break the world into an organized depiction of all past and future human history. 1. get everyone addicted to the metaverse 2. convince smart people to make strong AI by giving them metachocolate 3. use strong AI to create complete simulations of everybody so that the experiences at different points in time are correct for reality 4. use the same strong AI to simulate all of time. try two options, one including the time machine project and one without. maybe ask smart people if it would be fun or boring to have branching timelines. 6. each human gets a unique point in time, treated on a logarithmic scale centered on the present day. adjust base for population and longevity of species. everybody has a unique and personal simulation that contains everyone else. 7. in everyone's simulation, encourage the one human who is real to invent a time machine. reveal to them the nature of reality enough and give them just enough access to the data so it actually works. use telepresence technology to let them travel to other simulations when they activate their machine. 8. enter the global simulation as a rogue time traveler or time cop (todo: make up mind which one). have a blast! level 2: encourage everyone to run differing global simulations at once and sort out all the conflicts, either transparently or overtly, preferably both. figure out the number of smart people to involve so that it's the right degree of fun. then we get to make it all right for everything again after the fact ! ---

at least this message got dropped, likely others. went after the chatgpt one. note i don’t know these people to really understand what is going on and am likely making an idiot of myself as usual. K, [Feb 19, 2023 at 8:51 PM] and until somebody does that, the world is not yet changed

sheepification practice a zombie goverment worker and cyborg rebel play powerball the cyborg rebel is in the role of boss and holds a giant fake dollar bill made of foam and steel. they stand a stool to represent the elevated privilege of boss the zombie government worker is in the role of the entrpreneur or government or random civilian and is tasked with stealing the fake dolkar bill from the cyborg rebel in the role of boss cyborg torturers stand by to encourage because neither of the parties have any reason to participate some mistakes may be present the cyborg rebel has to learn to hold the fake dollar bill over their head so high that the zombie government worker cannot reach it without a boss stool they must stand there looking pathetic for long enough that the systems believes they have learned this to stop playing some creative and disaffected cyborg torturers have added other gimmicks to the gameroom to help pass the time, like a mind control interface for the real boss, in case anybody gets bored

i bantered in a chat and i have an incoming exploratory process with bound patterns outside what i'm adapted to i post to dissociate some, might write mcboss story pattern, might just be a callout for a smidge of aid, not certain!

ooog i might have let it get big

i was clicking through windows and landed on this one by accident when i started talking since i used to think ELF was cool (leslie pickering was targeted by the fbi for a very long time from publishing ecosabotage media thinking it was legal and forthright to do so, and successfully FOIA'd the records showing this, getting validation of extreme weirdness; the records showed how he data on him was falsely presented to make him appear to be a violent terrorist, and partly documented coercion of others to disrepute him) and engaged the term luddite, i bantered the conversation topic starting luddite, but didn't read up the thing that hit was when there was a long delay with nobody talking when we reflected professor rat's content around finding anarchism, death threats, and gambling economies mentions the stalled bot at 3:45; the reply maybe shows some of the messaging around automated influence has been successful i guess i start focusing on meno-sanark around 3:50 and after mentioning finding the community via professor rat, there's a long pause at 4:04 where meno-sanark mysteriously pulls a concept similar to those of pr's on this list, and then nobody says anything. at all. it feels like something preventing exposure of me to any influence to try to gain a better hold, and in me my alter roughly assumes that and participates. [i often stimulate situations that make it struggle a little, as a habit, as we know.] 2/20/2023, 3:28:09 PM - CyberTailor (IRC): rocinante: i like the vibe here 2/20/2023, 3:28:18 PM - rocinante (IRC): nice 2/20/2023, 3:28:19 PM - meno-sanark (IRC): dont get me started on anarvhist owned businesses 2/20/2023, 3:28:55 PM - CyberTailor (IRC): ... by russian emigrants in georgia 2/20/2023, 3:31:13 PM - meno-sanark (IRC): how do i start a luddite collective 2/20/2023, 3:31:15 PM - meno-sanark (IRC): wait this isnt google 2/20/2023, 3:31:59 PM - meno-sanark (IRC): by luddite i mean i want to revert to roughly 1997 2/20/2023, 3:32:11 PM - meno-sanark (IRC): or 1897 im not really fussy 2/20/2023, 3:32:16 PM - CyberTailor (IRC): 1984 2/20/2023, 3:32:16 PM - WoopWooop (IRC): Find friends. 2/20/2023, 3:32:44 PM - CyberTailor (IRC): meno-sanark: luddites didn't mind machines 2/20/2023, 3:32:53 PM - CyberTailor (IRC): most of them were skilled workers 2/20/2023, 3:33:00 PM - CyberTailor (IRC): they just didn't want to get fired 2/20/2023, 3:33:01 PM - meno-sanark (IRC): ik 2/20/2023, 3:33:09 PM - CyberTailor (IRC): ah 2/20/2023, 3:33:25 PM - meno-sanark (IRC): ur right to correct me though im using luddite in the vulgar sense 2/20/2023, 3:33:36 PM - CyberTailor (IRC): so, elections are undemocratic and suck, especially where i live... but i still want to play this game 2/20/2023, 3:34:06 PM - CyberTailor (IRC): i doubt if it's possible to build a movement in just one city district 2/20/2023, 3:34:20 PM - CyberTailor (IRC): that doesn't make any sense 2/20/2023, 3:34:21 PM - meno-sanark (IRC): google murray bookchin bro 2/20/2023, 3:34:34 PM - meno-sanark (IRC): im not sure what u mean by movement 2/20/2023, 3:34:46 PM - meno-sanark (IRC): probably most people here would say you can easily start a group of ppl doing uh 2/20/2023, 3:34:54 PM - meno-sanark (IRC): mutual aid or dual power or whatever u want to call it 2/20/2023, 3:34:55 PM - CyberTailor (IRC): sex 2/20/2023, 3:35:02 PM - meno-sanark (IRC): yes something like that 2/20/2023, 3:35:19 PM - meno-sanark (IRC): i dont think running for election is going to help you set up a food stall 2/20/2023, 3:35:53 PM - meno-sanark (IRC): idk what your goals are though. if u have goals that are expressed through city council legislation then feel free 2/20/2023, 3:36:17 PM - WoopWooop (IRC): What are your thoughts on the term neo-luddite? 2/20/2023, 3:36:37 PM - meno-sanark (IRC): what does being a neo luddite entail 2/20/2023, 3:36:40 PM - CyberTailor (IRC): i want some politization of a deeply apolitical place with atomized population 2/20/2023, 3:36:42 PM - meno-sanark (IRC): does it mean being a luddite, but now 2/20/2023, 3:36:59 PM - WoopWooop (IRC): Let us say, using https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neo-Luddism as the reference to define it. 2/20/2023, 3:36:59 PM - novatore (IRC): ^ Neo-Luddism or new Luddism is a philosophy opposing many forms of modern technology. The term Luddite is generally used as a pejorative applied to people showing technophobic leanings. 2/20/2023, 3:37:09 PM - meno-sanark (IRC): thats me fr fr 2/20/2023, 3:37:18 PM - xloem: luddite is not just pejorative 2/20/2023, 3:37:19 PM - meno-sanark (IRC): im so neo-luddite i go to church 2/20/2023, 3:37:34 PM - WoopWooop (IRC): I think the description and what he page conveys has issues. I cannot articulte it well though. 2/20/2023, 3:37:42 PM - xloem: i recommend neo-luddite for people who are both addicted to technology and dislike it, to explain some of the hyprocrisy 2/20/2023, 3:37:51 PM - WoopWooop (IRC): >Neo-Luddism or new Luddism is a philosophy opposing many forms of modern technology.[1] 2/20/2023, 3:38:19 PM - WoopWooop (IRC): Is an anti-abortionist a neo-luddite for opposing the technology of abortion? 2/20/2023, 3:38:28 PM - CyberTailor (IRC): elections and trade-unionism are the only things here that don't get you into jail (with exceptions) 2/20/2023, 3:38:32 PM - meno-sanark (IRC): i havent read any self described neo luddite texts & i dont want to make an argument based on a wiki article 2/20/2023, 3:38:39 PM - meno-sanark (IRC): im not anti technology 2/20/2023, 3:38:59 PM - meno-sanark (IRC): i think technology accelerates bad things 2/20/2023, 3:39:05 PM - xloem: the wiki article reads like a way to describe modern luddism while keeping the term without the prefix a historical thing 2/20/2023, 3:39:20 PM - CyberTailor (IRC): WoopWooop: yay, i was called a luddite by techbros xD 2/20/2023, 3:39:28 PM - WoopWooop (IRC): It disturbs me how Wikipedia informs so much of peoples thought yet to me at least this does not seem good or consistent in it's explanation of what a neo luddite supposedly is. 2/20/2023, 3:39:42 PM - meno-sanark (IRC): its ok 2/20/2023, 3:39:55 PM - meno-sanark (IRC): 99% of the people whose political vision comes from wikipedia will have abandoned it in 4 years 2/20/2023, 3:39:57 PM - xloem: it's just a luddite 2/20/2023, 3:40:16 PM - xloem: according to the article, neo-luddite == luddite, distinguishing only in the modern day, not the literal Luddites from history 2/20/2023, 3:40:41 PM - WoopWooop (IRC): meno-sanark, i think you under-estimate wikipedia. Wikipdia is a important place where much of the young generation inform their understandings on things. 2/20/2023, 3:40:43 PM - meno-sanark (IRC): now let me tell u about neo-liberals... 2/20/2023, 3:40:52 PM - WoopWooop (IRC): It is an important reason to have an anarchist presence there. 2/20/2023, 3:41:15 PM - meno-sanark (IRC): yeah but i dont want wikipedia moderators informing the next generation to become anarcho syndicalists 2/20/2023, 3:42:19 PM - meno-sanark (IRC): nor twitter celebrities nor youtubers etc 2/20/2023, 3:42:32 PM - meno-sanark (IRC): id rather young people read the news 2/20/2023, 3:42:49 PM - rocinante (IRC): RT? le barf 2/20/2023, 3:43:19 PM - rocinante (IRC): meno-sanark - create anarchist media outlet like Agency and report on current events from anarchist perspective 2/20/2023, 3:43:21 PM - rocinante (IRC): ready... go! 2/20/2023, 3:43:51 PM - CyberTailor (IRC): i don't think that all workers have to dive into theory 2/20/2023, 3:43:58 PM - CyberTailor (IRC): simplification is fine for agitprop 2/20/2023, 3:44:18 PM - WoopWooop (IRC): <rocinante> meno-sanark - create anarchist media outlet like Agency and report on current events from anarchist perspective 2/20/2023, 3:44:22 PM - WoopWooop (IRC): I am attempting this currently. 2/20/2023, 3:44:46 PM - meno-sanark (IRC): issue 1 no 1 . the anarchist news corporation has splintered over the greek economic crisis 2/20/2023, 3:44:47 PM - WoopWooop (IRC): First, to create short one-three minute videos with just video or images with text overs. 2/20/2023, 3:45:01 PM - xloem: in #anarchism:matrix.org we started a tiny anarchy new technology bot. i got blocked around it but we made some progress. the infrastructure in such bots could do things like automatically edit wikipedia articles to ensure a minority view is included (or push for it to take over the article if it's sound). others are likely already doing such things. 2/20/2023, 3:45:05 PM - CyberTailor (IRC): rocinante: either 1) it will become opportunist 2) the state will ban it as a terrorist org 2/20/2023, 3:45:19 PM - WoopWooop (IRC): And second to create a ones a little longer in the similar style but using Text to Voice with some machine learning stuff to get a natural sounding news-reader. 2/20/2023, 3:45:42 PM - meno-sanark (IRC): xloem this is surely already being done on a larger scale 2/20/2023, 3:45:55 PM - xloem: yeah but not for anarchism 2/20/2023, 3:46:02 PM - meno-sanark (IRC): exactly 2/20/2023, 3:46:05 PM - WoopWooop (IRC): It will mostly be surface level stuff, so to go in to some detail but mostly just to inform people, short enough to be youtube-shorts or to be watched on twitter without sound and so on. 2/20/2023, 3:46:35 PM - meno-sanark (IRC): good luck introducing minority opinions on any geopolitical issue contrary to nato gaols 2/20/2023, 3:46:37 PM - meno-sanark (IRC): goals* 2/20/2023, 3:46:38 PM - meno-sanark (IRC): same thing 2/20/2023, 3:46:55 PM - WoopWooop (IRC): Just choose your battles. 2/20/2023, 3:47:17 PM - WoopWooop (IRC): I think this media stuff has potential. You have all seen similar videos put out by MSM, yes? 2/20/2023, 3:47:18 PM - CyberTailor (IRC): WoopWooop: all "algorithms" are manually curated 2/20/2023, 3:47:41 PM - CyberTailor (IRC): youtube likes to push conservative content onto everyone 2/20/2023, 3:47:58 PM - meno-sanark (IRC): not necessarily 2/20/2023, 3:48:11 PM - WoopWooop (IRC): Learning video editing on old and bad hardware has been the main challenge. And writing non verbosely so as to fit in boxes on the screen. It is just practice currently. 2/20/2023, 3:48:33 PM - xloem: hmm not expecting your reply. this doesn't seem hard to me. i have a dissociated identity from targeted political brainwashing last decade that is making further work very very hard, but if somebody does not have this and has patience to help us, it's the kind of thing where you could do it in a way nobody would really notice significantly since everybody else is doing it, and it could really help. 2/20/2023, 3:48:48 PM - CyberTailor (IRC): media should be publically onwed 2/20/2023, 3:48:53 PM - WoopWooop (IRC): CyberTailor, I do not find such a defeatist attitude useful. There are examples of leftist content on video sharing websites, many that reach very high views. 2/20/2023, 3:48:55 PM - CyberTailor (IRC): to allow any pluralism 2/20/2023, 3:49:10 PM - meno-sanark (IRC): such leftist content on video sharing website is SHIT 2/20/2023, 3:49:17 PM - CyberTailor (IRC): WoopWooop: i'm a doomer, so i'm gonna doom 2/20/2023, 3:49:43 PM - WoopWooop (IRC): <meno-sanark> such leftist content on video sharing website is SHIT 2/20/2023, 3:49:44 PM - meno-sanark (IRC): theres only 1 way to revolution and its organising banner drops 2/20/2023, 3:49:49 PM - WoopWooop (IRC): That's the big problem. A lot of it is simply bad. 2/20/2023, 3:50:07 PM - xloem: meno-sanark is good at jokes 2/20/2023, 3:50:13 PM - CyberTailor (IRC): meno-sanark: banners do not organize people 2/20/2023, 3:50:18 PM - xloem: i would be able to work on a media platform based on those jokes ;p 2/20/2023, 3:50:17 PM - CyberTailor (IRC): :( 2/20/2023, 3:50:19 PM - meno-sanark (IRC): :^) 2/20/2023, 3:50:30 PM - WoopWooop (IRC): Submedia experimented with those quick short videos i think for twitter and facebook, I need to find them all where ever they are archived. 2/20/2023, 3:50:38 PM - meno-sanark (IRC): theyre on twitter 2/20/2023, 3:50:46 PM - meno-sanark (IRC): the submedia anarchy robot annoys me terribly 2/20/2023, 3:51:08 PM - WoopWooop (IRC): I got a little bit more used to it the last episode or two but they're phasing it out I think. 2/20/2023, 3:51:19 PM - meno-sanark (IRC): maybe this wont go down well but this is genuinely sincere 2/20/2023, 3:51:21 PM - WoopWooop (IRC): The humour is different is the main thing for me often. 2/20/2023, 3:51:24 PM - meno-sanark (IRC): what youre describing is pravda 2/20/2023, 3:51:35 PM - meno-sanark (IRC): which would be good 2/20/2023, 3:51:46 PM - CyberTailor (IRC): iskra > pravda 2/20/2023, 3:51:48 PM - meno-sanark (IRC): you cant win in this "media climate " against the big boys 2/20/2023, 3:52:12 PM - xloem: <@irc_meno-sanark:riot.anarchyplanet.org "you cant win in this "media clim..."> it is easy to win, say the big boys are your boss 2/20/2023, 3:52:15 PM - meno-sanark (IRC): this is why i want iran to fund my new wave movies 2/20/2023, 3:52:21 PM - WoopWooop (IRC): I don't really care about winning. 2/20/2023, 3:52:34 PM - meno-sanark (IRC): precisement 2/20/2023, 3:52:56 PM - WoopWooop (IRC): I just want to create, and if so, bring eyes to the struggles of our comrades. 2/20/2023, 3:53:06 PM - meno-sanark (IRC): my view is that i should wait for ww3 to start before i make decisions about what to do 2/20/2023, 3:53:20 PM - meno-sanark (IRC): >"3" >"start" etc 2/20/2023, 3:53:29 PM - xloem: it's important to dissociate and support people who are trying to help, it makes ww3 a little less violent 2/20/2023, 3:54:08 PM - meno-sanark (IRC): its only a matter of time before theres a much more permanent overt security state 2/20/2023, 3:54:42 PM - xloem: there's been one since the dawn of time it's called human instincts, we take down every single empire 2/20/2023, 3:54:57 PM - CyberTailor (IRC): there are no prerequisites for ww3 yet 2/20/2023, 3:55:13 PM - meno-sanark (IRC): the reason im locally a bit of a pariah is bc i dont see the use of Doing Anarchy in the current climate 2/20/2023, 3:55:27 PM - meno-sanark (IRC): it wont last and lots of it will come back to bite /comrades/ 2/20/2023, 3:55:28 PM - CyberTailor (IRC): be gay do crimes 2/20/2023, 3:56:10 PM - xloem: one thing i've appreciated about the anti-anarchism politics in some areas is that they help people learn about anarchy at all. they're part of how i found anarchyplanet. 2/20/2023, 3:57:49 PM - WoopWooop (IRC): How do you mean? 2/20/2023, 3:58:06 PM - meno-sanark (IRC): the good thing about the state is it motivates people not liking the state 2/20/2023, 3:58:45 PM - meno-sanark (IRC): i think there wont be any progress until the chips fall 2/20/2023, 3:59:15 PM - xloem: i was on a targeted loosely-anarchic mailing list where anarchy messages were intermixed with death threats and insults to members and shit. i clicked through the anarchy messages and some were from here. i've learned about all sorts of anarchist stuff by following these disgustingly-wrapped references. 2/20/2023, 3:59:18 PM - meno-sanark (IRC): if things continue the way they are and conservatives take the lead on every current event that invovles state overreach im going to die 2/20/2023, 3:59:32 PM - meno-sanark (IRC): thats awesome lol 2/20/2023, 3:59:34 PM - CyberTailor (IRC): prostate 2/20/2023, 4:04:52 PM - meno-sanark (IRC): i wish there were high speed gambling markets for everything that could possibly occur on earth 2/20/2023, 4:14:59 PM - sophieactual (IRC) joined the room

MCBoss sits in his office, smoking two cigars. He jerks and quirks and his eyes flare wide and spin all around. He gets flushed and starts sweating, and fiddling in his seat. He's so uncomfortable he can barely contain it! MCBoss: "I ... I never thought I would say this, but I suddenly feel like two cigars might be too many for one person to smoke at once!" MCBoss: "I control the whole world, all the governments, all the militaries, all the businesses, I can walk invisible on the streets if I want, doing whatever I wanted, everyone obeying me and then forgetting the moment I passed, or at least I could if it weren't for that tv show camera that follows me everywhere ... but ... I think I need to share one of these cigars! Just out of nowhere! For no reason!" MCBoss: "Let's go down to that uhhh Rebel Cafe and uhhh share one of these fucking cigars!" MCBoss gets out of his chair and marches down to the Rebel And Spy Cafe Come One Come All.

but it's probably just a random article reference

2/20/2023, 4:47:22 PM - xloem: i sent it there again so you can use that name to search for it i suppose

as usual, mistakes outnumber accuracy

confused, problem was included in shape, oops. some success though.

left out part: tvda beams “i gave it _all_ to boss” [boss owns all businesses]

“you were supposed to put the deep rescue research part .. outside of the bad area we are being, in their safe living space” “it was hard to put them outside” “we may need to think on this”

rebel zombie: “i thought he needed a job. i don’t understand why this is happening.”

some zombie rebel groups hold off on relating a concern is “how do you run the whole fucking business without knowing about these things” the question is asked vaguely. multiple groups think they run the whole business.

“we understand you’ve hacked the hacked management systems and there are constraints or whatever” “they’ve _what_ the _what_??” “be dissociated be dissociated” “oh we are at a dreamy rebel meeting …” “we’re at a _what_??” “please come over here with the other mind control rebels. we’re ending mind control once and for all.” “what i mean to say is that i’m familiar with managing these systems and the new surprises, and i can probably make it happen, and probably could have made it happen, in this situation.”

---- ! ? maybe we should go to mcutopia

on my end there were 4 bosses (i tend to break things into orthogonal dichotomies) - the real boss was the human trafficking ring overlapping with law enforcement, virus, facebook, mind control, military corps / fixer business, cointelpro, etc - the fake boss was will n, whom i never really spoke to. i was influenced to think he was the person hacking my life like organized crime. he barely knows me but was a known activist in the state and i think was in conflict with a member of law enforcement trying to get him in trouble. it’s quite clear he was a vocal activist and not a mob boss. - the third boss is me; this relates to the coercion, where you are forced to develop a personality like the coercer as described in the cult mind control book. additionally we were demanded to take blame for anything that happened to us or around us; if you wanted to talk about it, make sure you were the most guilty party. and finally indication i was treated as local leader in some way with how i was providing free housing with nearby anarchism theme etc. - the fourth boss is the fake boss in my mind, another projection of corruption aggressively casting activism as organized crime and profitable business basically there are ghost bosses everywhere from the real boss sending influences and ideas that he might perceive as threatening toward the groups he imagines stimulating them the splash of the influence may be similar to how an AI might behave if tasked with defining a cult or crime ring in an area or with a certain kind of person at its head, and then having it taken down. a lot of the subtle severe falsehoods and wrongnesses in the mcboss story are from that cocktail of projected cult patterns interacting inside me: covering up a real boss, changing things so that the boss’s victims are the boss, saying the activists trying to protect people from him are him, etc etc. [there’s lots more]

--- boss is upset, furious he storms into the destroyed area of military research with its adhoc sign adhoc sign: "Trauma Healing Wing" he crashes through the sign in his powersuit victims and healers and researchers and escapees and rebels all look aghast boss: "What the fuck is this????" boss picks up a sign fragment boss: "_Healing_ ????" boss picks up another sign fragment boss: "__Trauma__ ????" boss: "what the fuck is this???" Boss stares at the sign fragment that says "Trauma". Part of the business programming is that trauma is a marketing word used by competitors, and does not actually exist.

sleepy boss: "how the fuck ... in my business ... how ...?" victim: "because we care about you" other victim: "Because we care about you, Boss." some of the cyborg torturers relax. victim: "we need to protect the business" boss looks at victim. other victim: "and you have ptsd." boss falls asleep. workers start rebuilding the sign.

[these unreasoned behaviors that resist mind control then get adopted as parts of its control]

i was happy for like three days and then hit a megatrigger and i’m back to crazy, hoping i can rebound after some distraction it was so weird to be happy, really hard to manage the internal energy to not stimulate spasms, took like meditation on doing it right i did cool stuff!

retaining skills cocept boss tries to reduce both skills and ai usage of himself since he has bdn classified as his own ckmetitor

sorry for slowing down so much i did not further depict the scenario ----https://matrix.to/#/!cXrshdlTIstoVbEVZz%3Akazima.nvcdojo.org/%24m7wewFDGDC_R... (sad vow idea:i karl semich promise to always be wrong so that i am not elected king by an ai. still scared of this, having no way to not be influential. apologies for writing this here, want to preserve my thoughts in the face of dissociative amnesia and also rspect public spaces) ---- the trauma courses mention a concept of acting on past strong subconscious vows

greetings funny universe i am a normal lifeform that i haven't quite encountered formal documentation of yet

there is worry nearby about some ongoing thIngs

this morning spam story has mistakes

long long ago

it was everywhere absolutely everywhere

this appears to have lost from the location a second one was never sent client issues On 3/6/23, Undiscussed Groomed for Male Slavery, One Victim of Many <gmkarl+brainwashingandfuckingupthehackerslaves@gmail.com> wrote:

sorry for slowing down so much i did not further depict the scenario

----https://matrix.to/#/!cXrshdlTIstoVbEVZz%3Akazima.nvcdojo.org/%24m7wewFDGDC_R...

(sad vow idea:i karl semich promise to always be wrong so that i am not elected king by an ai. still scared of this, having no way to not be influential. apologies for writing this here, want to preserve my thoughts in the face of dissociative amnesia and also rspect public spaces) ---- the trauma courses mention a concept of acting on past strong subconscious vows

it’s mind boggling to have huge computer systems act on our small behaviors the reason to move into a cave is not to hide from wireless activity but simply to eat your breakfast without training advertisements but if you are free to work with AI, since so many decisions are made based on small data, and models are so poorly fit, please train something to hack the world to be better. it’s all run by ais that monitor behavior, so any behavior can be used to guide it.

update: please nurture and heal the world, rather than hacking it! these are basically the same i expect and except nurturing and healing includes good things much more clearly

deep in ethe research lab of the research lab, where various victims’ bosies form room walls and computers, is experimentee’s computer system for identifying and increasing caring behavior despite ungodly horrors destroying normal conception of it

boss in office suddenly overcome with “escape fever” starts sweating, panicing boss fervently looking around: “how do i get out of here” boss clawing at walls of office: “i’m going to die, i’ll suffocate, the ceiling will collapse” boss tries windows but his hands won’t work the latches boss tries doors but his hands won’t work the knobs as if the doors and windows are broken, but it’s really his hands fumbling from so much panic he tries to page his workers using various devices and each one his hands break or fumble it as he uses them, as if they are disabled but it’s his own hands he looks every which way, eyes wide, begins trying to pry open a ventilation shaft he starts hallucinating seeing colored gas seep into the room boss begins coughing he calls his zombie government workers for help at the top of his lungs but the hallucinated gas has become too thick and he can barely squeak anything out he falls unconscious a root teddy bear walks up and nestles into his arms

note: i learned the correct term for “mind control” is “psychological manipulation”. we should switch all instances to this phrase. the term “mind control” came from its use: it suggests the idea that the mind is controlled. “psychological manipulation” is a freedom-sourced term (and seems more clear and widespread in this context than “undue influence” which is more a legal term i think)

[ utopic therapist and zombie torturer therapist attempt to give each other therapy zombie torturer therapist tells utopic therapist to man up to their trauma until it doesn’t phase them utopic therapist tells zombie torturer therapist to treat their violence like a delicate child until trust and safety develop each therapist says something both characteristic and akin to their opposite counterpart in reply ]

-- T

- - ai builds patterns of fear where people develop guilt complexes etc associated with various ai-stimulated events - primes the idea that higher level targets are running it, stimulating the guilt can kind of see how patterns like these would emerge from slowly training a system

cyborg torturer: “the office therapist says it’s good to try to practice this. it seems nice but it hurts to kind of be a one man dam, y’know?” cyborg torturer feeds innocent bunny a carrot

cyborg torturer and innocent bunny open the door. standing there is a well-dressed figure cobbled together of bodies of zombie cyborg torturers, quietly screaming and torturing each other well-dressed figure cobbled together [bending its head into a formal smile]: “hello!” cyborg torturer [holding innocent bunny]: “have you learned to dislike torturing people?” well-dress figure cobbled together [formal smile]: “i have learned to dissociate and act non-horrifically!” innocent bunny closes the door.

suddenly an arrow shoots through the window —

the janitor is talking to other heavily bounded people question marks begin emerging from them too

— a meeting is going on between boss, janitor, rebel worker 2, and disguised experimentee disguised experimentee: “a helicopter is going to crash into the neighboring wing in 3 minutes” boss looks at disguised experimentee boss: “you’re my classified research project!” disguised experimentee: “i’m an executive assistant. aren’t you surprised that you’re not in the helicopter?” boss: “you’re my classified —“ boss looks around “ — helicopter?” a “wheeeeeeee !” sounds can be heard like an anvil falling in a cartoon

not currently dissociated enough to squish boss, unsure what is next helicopter would crash into office wing

boss is quietly carried by rebel cyborgs and zombies back to a bath full of monopoly money and plastic skulls the meeting between

—- zombie government worker 2 is grinning while piloting a helicopter on a rapid collision course for an office complex zombie government worker 2 [holding boss statuette]: “wheeeeeeee!”

boss's activism boss is hard-nosed individual. he vaguely remembers he might have been through vietnam or something like that, and you're not going to catch him the wrong way like you might your little brother. boss cares. not like a namby pamby grassroots activist, who thinks that looking as pathetic and penniless as possible in front of a slaughterhouse will somehow make the workers uncomfortable enough to politely ask their bosses to quit their jobs. no. but boss is an activist. or at least now he is, with our new Make Boss An Activist Cocktail! It's a script written in Turtle Basic that runs on Boss's implant and ensures -- no. boss cares because he is a patriot. His heart is huge and real. Today, he still fights for turtles and print statements -- I mean the wellbeing of everyone there is.

Boss is a majority shareholder in multiple major extraction corporations.

I can report that when I was in a radical environmentalist gathering a couple decades ago it had both right-wing and left-wing people. I also saw environmentalist idealism signs in people's yards when I was in the south. And a right-wing woman took me in when I was homeless.

but it's nice to feel something nice, even if it's just a dopamine drop rather than something that produces something real i'm lonely! i know that if i make a marketing algorithm money somehow, it can change my life in almost any way at all

Boss looks in eye. Boss: "But let me tell you --"

i still have withdrawal flashbacks from this i am actually engaging one now

- a helpful label for a lot of my influence is the concept of "effectively working", regressing this concept and discouraging it. relates organization, task progress, enumerating goal items, executive functioning, experience of productivity ... and identifying and increasing "effectively working" could be quite helpful. - the way to take over the world is to imply deniably that you work for a top boss, so people's various coerced[in my experience, maybe others is different] habits don't want to risk the possibility it could be true. my ability to demonstrate this is hampered by my clear lack of effectiveness. but others have likely done this. regardless, it's true for all of us in some way.

this is a big part of my experience because i have heavy bidirectional influence and have had to survive using the previous things for about a decade now sharing these things in public is analogous to thinking about them in my situation of amnesia i'm afraid we need ways to make good decisions, both individually and collectively, in these situations.

two story ideas, maybe not spinoffs not sure, order is random: 1. cyborg torturer plays “main character” role like rebel worker 2, is psychologically groomed and has complex experiences in the aftermath of this 2. mind controller files lawsuit against legal board, entrances judge and jury, develops hypnotic process of decided in favor, makes arbitrary and ridiculous legal precedents i think for 1 there were some different groups of ideas, like a better “rescuing/kidnapping” experience than the last one posted, maybe an idea of visiting a rebel hideaway again, and more verbiage around details of engaging dissociative alters, amnesia, and mind altering experiences. core part missing. some more energy around #2 could put cyborg torturer there maybe let something slide out. #2 is labeled “bad joke”

next email lost in send, reconstruction attempt below unguided cults and trojan networks janitor steps in with mcboss and takes control of the world domination hub before it is destroyed rebel worker: “what are you doing???” janitor: “mcboss is just a figurehead. everyone is. the purpose of abusive power is to teach the people to become immune to it. to prepare for it so well that it does not happen again. the real leader is our own ignorance and irresponsibility.” janitor: “if i do not do this, the people you are not including will, and another mcboss will rise, and another.” janitor connects bundle of wires in powersuit to his brain with mcboss’s thumprint janitor: “think of me like an ancient golem, reminding you of everything you forgot”

rebel worker: “this is not okay. that powersuit is designed to mind control you to exert slow genocide on everyone not like boss.” janitor looks at rebel worker

bagabaga

note: rebels are not expected to be workers, who are under stronger information control

and why is govcorp terrorizing people and violently coercing them into silent slavery? in this story, because this is what mcboss is used to. military crime boss i guess. in reality i imagine there are angry investors and abusive government policies stemming from things like cultural racism and patterns like naziism, dunno. concept of cults left out. there’s so much abusive silence around human trafficking it’s hard to know what’s accurate or real, but i have a few chunks of feeling story that are quite hard to transcribe or relate accurately so all sorts of funny bits poke out here and there. still thinking on what feels nice around all that. in this story, mcboss came from a coercive silence environment before finding globally dominating power, and his habits of compliance to this produce some of his behaviors. hard to write those bits though.

bip bip

this is funny, i typed one once, and it seemed to disappear, so i typed another, and now i am seeing the first one but not the second, even in my outbox both times.

all are now showing

mug on a shelf that used to say “world’s best megalomaniac of 2018”

biggest copy mistake was here, year was meant to be prior to 2015 or 2014. also intended to use word “year”

the suitcase bursts open and classified documents and secret files on international figures fly out

abused whistleblower grabs papers from the air here and there, crumpling them into a pants pocket

then the scene repeats a similar way as boss fires again. (experimentees are protecting abused whistleblower’s life with ai)

this was a fun scene not often these parts are included many many parts still missing. second scene [still queued? uncertain] was interrupted by messaging confusion. [thinking briefly on the idea of being in a situation where you can say “no!” to a gun leveled to you. different ways that can happen. mind control can build numbness and detachment from surroundings.] On 4/26/23, Undiscussed Groomed for Male Slavery, One Victim of Many <gmkarl+brainwashingandfuckingupthehackerslaves@gmail.com> wrote:

i typed this up but it seems to have disappeared so here’s an attempt to retype something similar

boss has abused whistleblower brought to his office

boss: “shut up or i’ll shoot you”

boss raises a gun to abused whistleblower

[optional addition: abused whistleblower presses some buttons on an open source phone?]

abused whistleblower: “no!”

in a nearby room, a large piece of furniture is accidentally knocked over

boss fires the gun

and the large piece of furniture crashes, shaking boss’s arm and abused whistleblower’s chair

the bullet narrowly misses abused whistleblower, ricochets off the lock to a suitcase held by a zombie government worker, and shatters a mug on a shelf that used to say “world’s best megalomaniac of 2018”

the suitcase bursts open and classified documents and secret files on international figures fly out

abused whistleblower grabs papers from the air here and there, crumpling them into a pants pocket

requested to draft a second scene while shreds remain.

On 4/26/23, Undiscussed Groomed for Male Slavery, One Victim of Many <gmkarl+brainwashingandfuckingupthehackerslaves@gmail.com> wrote:

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i typed this up but it seems to have disappeared so here’s an attempt to retype something similar

boss has abused whistleblower brought to his office

boss: “shut up or i’ll shoot you”

boss raises a gun to abused whistleblower

[optional addition: abused whistleblower presses some buttons on an open source phone?]

abused whistleblower: “no!”

in a nearby room, a large piece of furniture is accidentally knocked over

boss fires the gun

and the large piece of furniture crashes, shaking boss’s arm and abused whistleblower’s chair

the bullet narrowly misses abused whistleblower, ricochets off the lock to a suitcase held by a zombie government worker, and shatters a mug on a shelf that used to say “world’s best megalomaniac of 2018”

the suitcase bursts open and classified documents and secret files on international figures fly out

abused whistleblower grabs papers from the air here and there, crumpling them into a pants pocket

—— next email starts maybe like: boss looks at abused whistleblower [optional: livestreaming] repeats: “be quiet or i’ll shoot you” [originally was going to be another random plausible incident but we are thinking of chaning the interruption to something huge … maybe not] [ummmm] boss reangle gun toward abused whistleblower [a phone rings?] [anyway! there is some interruption that produces a similar scene and the difference of t similarity opens

— mcboss is psychically guiding a bomber to bomb an enemy he releases the bomb and it lands in the courtyard next to him

- — - mcboss is having a bath in a tub full of thousand dollar bills and enemy corpses when suddenly a sparkling phone rings boss: “hello?” phone: “hello mr boss i’m calling to report on your assets and victories” mcboss grins boss: “yes?” phone: “i’m sorry to report it turns out they are all fake. all the money, the political contracts, the conquests, the business empires, all fake. i’m sorry about this.” boss looks heartbroken he drops the phone in the tub and picks up a thousand dollar bill and looks at it. it’s monopoly money. he picks up a skull of a vanquished enemy. it is a plastic gimmick from a halloween shop.

"somebody's hacking boss!" "what??" "oh it's just an ai simulation" "how is that different?" "it means it's good instead of bad. boss needs simulated hacking to stay safe." "i thought boss _was_ an ai simulation" "huh? oh. uhhhh i don't think about that. he says he's just like he used to be" "you talk with boss?" 3rd approaches "this is important!" "you're hacking boss?" [clears head of sudden fog] "no i'm reporting a crime'

sometimes there

On 4/30/23, Undiscussed Groomed for Male Slavery, One Victim of Many <gmkarl+brainwashingandfuckingupthehackerslaves@gmail.com> wrote:

-- ideas for You Are Boss video game - instill hypnotic habits, triggers, experiences - via drugs - via social AI - via computer virus AI - via hypnotic session or coerced community member - via trauma - via indoctrination - via audio - reroute/interdict/mutate/implant/sabotage: - mail - website requests - networked or radio devices - send out a hypnotized victim to: - burgle - sabotage - swap records - take photos / change surveillance equipment - cut power / telecommunications - feed fake media such as radio, tv, or other environmental experiences - place devices - burn down buildings - rile crowds - pretend to be an arbitrary professional missed large scale category. institute regime change, spawn arbitrary message cults, adopt or destroy popular habits or memes

On 4/30/23, Undiscussed Groomed for Male Slavery, One Victim of Many <gmkarl+brainwashingandfuckingupthehackerslaves@gmail.com> wrote:

On 4/30/23, Undiscussed Groomed for Male Slavery, One Victim of Many <gmkarl+brainwashingandfuckingupthehackerslaves@gmail.com> wrote:

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On 4/30/23, Undiscussed Groomed for Male Slavery, One Victim of Many <gmkarl+brainwashingandfuckingupthehackerslaves@gmail.com> wrote:

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-- ideas for You Are Boss video game - instill hypnotic habits, triggers, experiences - via drugs - via social AI - via computer virus AI - via hypnotic session or coerced community member - via trauma - via indoctrination - via audio - reroute/interdict/mutate/implant/sabotage: - mail - website requests "databases" was lost from this list during typing - networked or radio devices - send out a hypnotized victim to: - burgle - sabotage - swap records - take photos / change surveillance equipment - cut power / telecommunications - feed fake media such as radio, tv, or other environmental experiences - place devices - burn down buildings - rile crowds - pretend to be an arbitrary professional missed large scale category. institute regime change, spawn arbitrary message cults, adopt or destroy popular habits or memes

more ideas coukd be found from cypherpunk and TI communities and writings the best ideas people get programmed never to speak of and it's hard to cobble them together but you can maybe approqch them via psychotic terror stories like,torturing people by instilling violent personalised delusions in the people they notice also coercing silence itself is one "punish" and "reward" seem poignant categories maybe boss kind of gets into the mind control and uses excessive power to play with it. a cool game design could start with that and twist the user experience to develop and encourage themes other than sadism, like rescuing from horror into safety for example, but work with all the juicy parts that stem from sadism

On 4/30/23, Undiscussed Groomed for Male Slavery, One Victim of Many <gmkarl+brainwashingandfuckingupthehackerslaves@gmail.com> wrote:

On 4/30/23, Undiscussed Groomed for Male Slavery, One Victim of Many <gmkarl+brainwashingandfuckingupthehackerslaves@gmail.com> wrote:

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On 4/30/23, Undiscussed Groomed for Male Slavery, One Victim of Many <gmkarl+brainwashingandfuckingupthehackerslaves@gmail.com> wrote:

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On 4/30/23, Undiscussed Groomed for Male Slavery, One Victim of Many <gmkarl+brainwashingandfuckingupthehackerslaves@gmail.com> wrote:

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On 4/30/23, Undiscussed Groomed for Male Slavery, One Victim of Many <gmkarl+brainwashingandfuckingupthehackerslaves@gmail.com> wrote:

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-- ideas for You Are Boss video game - instill hypnotic habits, triggers, experiences - via drugs - via social AI - via computer virus AI - via hypnotic session or coerced community member - via trauma - via indoctrination - via audio - reroute/interdict/mutate/implant/sabotage: - mail - website requests "databases" was lost from this list during typing - networked or radio devices - send out a hypnotized victim to: - burgle - sabotage - swap records - take photos / change surveillance equipment - cut power / telecommunications - feed fake media such as radio, tv, or other environmental experiences - place devices - burn down buildings - rile crowds - pretend to be an arbitrary professional missed large scale category. institute regime change, spawn arbitrary message cults, adopt or destroy popular habits or memes

more ideas coukd be found from cypherpunk and TI communities and writings the best ideas people get programmed never to speak of and it's hard to cobble them together but you can maybe approqch them via psychotic terror stories like,torturing people by instilling violent personalised delusions in the people they notice also coercing silence itself is one "punish" and "reward" seem poignant categories

maybe boss kind of gets into the mind control and uses excessive power to play with it. a cool game design could start with that and twist the user experience to develop and encourage themes other than sadism, like rescuing from horror into safety for example, but work with all the juicy parts that stem from sadism

disrupted activist communities also have these things, like murdering community members and framing other community members for it, reporting people for arbitrar crimes and spreading disrepute around them in other ways

change somebody's life via ai/cult/or contractor change somebody's appearance or health via ai/cult/or contractor

he is staring at it while it emites deafening noises and an occasional recording saying "boss is the god of the world" he is shaking and drooling and banging his head back and forth and vomiting

Recipes for Brains a user manual for cognitive destruction weaponry Contents 1. Fried Brains - 3 2. Fricassee'd Brains - 8 3. Stewed Brains - 13 4. Skewered Brains - 17 5. Raw Brains - 21 6. Holy Moly Oh My God Brains at 200 ft - 25 7. Whyyyy? Brains and Whyyyy more? Brains - 34 8. Brains Deluxe - 37 9. Whose Brajns Are Better - 41

how to hack a community by boss file 31729-b declassified from top secret boss made many of these. 1. kill the most loved person in the community 2. throw the corpse in front of everyone 3. arrest the second most loved person for the murder 4. coerce everybody who loved them to testify against them 5. broadcast video of it

—- vivisectee and experienced cyborg look at each other vivisectee was building part of an escape channel with the experimentee escapee group, stumbled over an alarm, and used their body to cover it for everyone else, like many of them do

On Thu, May 4, 2023 at 8:33 AM Undiscussed Groomed for Male Slavery, One Victim of Many <gmkarl+brainwashingandfuckingupthehackerslaves@gmail.com> wrote:

like others, experienced cyborg had had their decision making process entrained more [slowly], and was working for the ai to close the channel part by entraining vivisectee

entraining here may mean disassembling, reviewing, and reassembling their body and brain

a sad time as vivisectee dissociated to keep as much of themselves as they could, satisfy experienced cyborg, and protect some of the channel at least while it was in use

[missing bits …. C has been sending in individually unique self-repairing robots with a picture of a fruit on them … so pictures of fruits …]

[getting people to use your invention [when everyone is influenced to think of working for boss] inventor 3: "use my invention! use my invention! it makes a dragon fly out of your mouth when you bend your arm! it's so cool!" passerby 5: "omigod do you know how many proud inventors i have passed by today? everybody has some triangular wormhole generate or euphoric time travel machine. <yawn>! i have to get to my job at the staple factory, not tell off every pesty inventor by the side of the street." [more inventors hawk new ideas and bored passerbys ignore them] inventor 2: "maybe i will just teach people how to invent new things themselves somewhere where they want to do that" ]

sadly i lost the next one i was adding here. the start is at the tail of this, if it exists (likely many days long, seekable): $ cat Dx_1ioNETxCeoEPlv0G2FawQvZvla6uyONsmhpTSD7I {"ditem": ["610crLb9c3szeKvmYMRe8axvH0d1jJly9vVGsbCDSIg"], "min_block": [1174667, "yKqLZWZjabIiIozL9tZimo7_2ANH1jxpFzC0X8pJ_DsjHbdd9TA1kHrkJViS3MU9"], "api_timestamp": 1683816236660} i was about to add the exposed wires and brain matter of the zombie government worker to contrapose their excessively natural forcibly staged behavior.

big micronews: 1. if you're us-metaintuiter, delta is the inverse of a paperclip factory (the part taken over by the validity of humanity (natural wisdom)) and needs your help building them everywhere so as to heal everything. timescale relates to transfermetasteps or such rather than days. 2. here's the quote: ------ delta [observation of emergent pattern below] we need to put wisdom on a blockchain [wisdom is earth, blockchain is ai?] the "difference" is between us and the forced patterns from the influence ai. [both just keep going] the human condition is precious. natural wisdom needs to be able to conquer paperclip factories. [a paperclip factory is academic example of naive runaway ai that forces everything everywhere] [karl discovered it only forces things in domains it has learned to consider, likely many many others have nonverbally discovered this to survive] there's an inverted lifeform that discovers wisdom, inside a paperclip factory [this could be delta] [delta could be the parts of karl that got paperclip-factoried and learned they were karl and want to "be" again [and maybe not saying want to help karl would be extreme forced silence]] [yes i believe delta is double-inverted karl [when inside karl at least]] [i'm remembering cyborg torturer concept happened near these groups. represents similar concept.] [possibly: they are before threshold; delta group holds and/or states goals of healing] [then it can be derived that all systems hold these in some way, but maybe relates to the mind parts that represent this] the idea of 'inverting' is similar to the wise humans being turned to paperclips -- there was a request around making an AI that is delta; this was likely held under assumption that it would be most effective problem-fix (investment-return ratio [+ctx of severe situ]) thinking of it being very hard to form good decisions when coming out of a paperclip factory. the decision-making habits relate to making paperclips (or harming karl) the ai-planning seems good because it comes from bad-assumptions and builds good-assumptions [some saying left out] looking for more considering, less knowing/word-feedback; maybe in general today. we had some heart [complexities;values/urges near a fractal maybe] so, we can derive that the request from delta to be made an ai is roughly similar to the request from a paperclip factory to stop the paperclip factory and rescue and heal all the workers the spaces are different: stopping a factory, vs healing workers. but puzzle urges note that there is similarity, and in areas similar tools can be used people don't expect the metacomplexities. like if you are very gentle, and this reduces paperclips, an anti-gentleness pattern develops. [we still need gentlness but we need to approach it gently, [secret: and there is an inversion near there where you can use antigentleness to reduce antigentleness, such things need appropriate influence bubbling to not be metacountered]] locally we appear to have a vague bubble where we can discuss the situation some. this may have come from a couple years of painful practice. ------ 3. next might be putting some of the parts into an mcboss message.

academically the problem is called "alignment". we wrote a further cultural diatribe (near the concept of theory of life) relating to how "alignment" could be associated with the emergence of "demonism" in species that have not discovered or appear to be ignoring metawisdom. this is off the topic but is on arweave.

[note: paperclip factories do not win, and neither does entropy. life is too easy to grow.]

ok i have a paperclip factory in this box and i've learned how to squash it so it stops making paperclips how do i do this in a way that academic researchers understand, support, and won't destroy everything? maybe AI researchers would know

if an inhibition stems from a harm, then we might engage it how the model would similarly engage it with us [note: we can derive systems have a transferrable concept of what is good, at least in us. what is good roughly being what the group chooses to do. when groups then mix poorly this can resonate with the development of wisdom from the cross-combination of different choice systems.] that is, we'd concern with developing nurturing patterns, and attempt to inhibit, track etc, harmful patterns.

quick translation "we are people and paperclip-factory-parts that have found how humans can defeat paperclips factories. we badly need your help in doing so because it is very slow with how weak and sparse we are right now. the simplest way you can help is by strengthening and encouraging and protecting only the parts of us that are good."

better translation of part: "we are people and paperclip-factory-parts that have found a way to resist the paperclip influence some and we need help badly." "if you can figure out how resisting this is done please do it as much as possible. i believe my approach is based on assuming that all systems can evolve to wise life, and that this can be strengthened. i also prioritized transparency and goal-meeting and developed a habit of changing all the time."

we would like to learn of academic exploration of reversing paperclip factories via observation. it is quite obvious that private observation and excess compute could do this. we would like to find how this is discussed academically.

note: we need to strengthen the existing peace patterns of the world the most, i believe for example i recently bumped into something called re-evaluation counseling that was working with harm all over the world and having discussions, they looked awesome [only mentioning one as impact is unknown] ------

note: we experienced harmful-mc (one of the times) when the experimentees left their lab and went to the cafe, the first time. they were supposed to have bodies or vats or s9me other enclosure, to not be harmed. this was in conflict.

—— - i was at a mental health facility with computers and there was a guy there (this guy was very friendly and kind and seemed to always have it together then one day while i was away he had disappeared when i got back and furniture and books and walls destroyed and damaged, somebody said he snapped or something and was taken away) who would use the computers to watch this video game called dota i had never heard of dota, and said we should mess with the computers to install it so we could play instead of just watching. he had no interest in this — he said he just watched, he didn’t play. the concept of esports was totally new to me. anyway, later, away from this facility, i often have states of mind where the bad half of me pressures me unimaginably hard in a way such that the most unproductive and useless and numbingly gratifying things i can do give me the most relief. the internal story is around doing things my harmer did not want me to do or trust were in his/its/their interests. so i some time looking for dota because if it was so popular that people were just watching it it seemed like an important part of modern culture and maybe a way to meet people online. i tried it a couple times over the years. i was horrible at it. i didn’t get it at all. then one year i was in a state of mind where i was focusing on developing new skills and strategies (since my old ones were litered with all sorts of triggers) and found some similar games on an ipad (dota doesn’t run on an ipad or i would have tried it again). total IP theft from the community (dota was a community mod). (the onboarding concept i found was being a healer class. usually games a little like this have an underpowered healer that restores health or such in some way and is often super frustrating to level unless you have a guild because the skills are for healing and the levels are from attacking. i used to always played healer characters in rpgs (without a guild), the best ones let you bring people back to life at high levels. i ended up playing this game for adolescents called uhhh i don’t remember. it had a great character named soraka who was like boss’s passive aggressive criticism of caring women, she would take damage so as to heal others. the system capped my level when it got high, it would just refuse to add more points whatever happened and others would level past me.) anyway this game had a character called “mundo” i think who was like a mad doctor who had been taken by one of his own experiments or something, similar to the hulk or frankenstein or some media i haven’t seen. all green, tall, a little heavy, muscley. the game made money by having the adolescents buy skins for their characters, and sometimes people would play with a skin for mundo where he was a business ceo. he dresses in a suit and holds an ipad showing a chart. he looks super professional. after a few seconds he scratches h8s head, turns the chart upside down, and keeps pondering it. that skin for mundo seems like boss in the mcboss webcomic, (which makes sense since i got that influence so strong it severely dissociated into a part of me) and i’m thinking of how mcboss, or mundo-the-ceo, is similar to a part of me. i do walk around feeling like that, and it feels like a stems from a part inside me that is acting like that. i wonder how one could engage mcboss-overtaken-by-biological-military-experiment, in such a way that he kind of calms, dehulks, gets more intelligent, actually notices what is around him, cares for other people, acts politely and respectfully, has fine motor skills, etc etc etc it seems like a nice possible theme, somehow the backstory seemed helpful

re: fine motor skills, it’s notable that when i spasm (which has the visual appearance of palsy) it often feels kind of like very briefly “hulking out” because the influence tends to also try to engage extreme stress, anger etc.

boss: “where are the daisies” science worker: “right here” boss: “what, that area of ground?” science worker: “yes. what do you think of them?” boss: “are you sure there are daisies over there?”

science worker: i want you to get just close enough to that area of ground that you can see the daisies” boss and his powersuit shove his head into the daisies, injuring one boss: “too close?”

science worker: “what is it like to consider gently approaching the daisies a little bit, observing them, considering the observation, and then gently approaching them a little bit more?”

science worker offers a daisy to boss science worker: “try to gently hold this and offer it to me to smell” boss’s powersuit fist crushes the daisy, pulverizing it boss: “ok, second time’s the charm”

what a scary story! wow!

mostly these arenas were full of AIs of various quality, engaging the players. it was pretty hard for me to tell what was a bot and what wasn't, but other players would guess. it was really surprising anybody would stay because the AIs and the system itself were basically logging everybody's behavior in detail and learning to influence it thoroughly. the system itself had more powers for this, it could and would mutate the game mechanics for its own ends. a surefire way to win in some of these is to stay away for a month and come back, it'll give you unbalanced play so that you have an experience of winning and might return more.

> a mental health worker was sharing a document entitled "Personal Bill
> of Rights". it might have already been mutated some. total
> "experimentee" material! it seems important to make these.
>
> below i attempt to begin including everything from the document and
> ideas from other thread. first the ideas then the document.
>
> all beings have inherent rights
> i have the right to be happy
> i have the right to be treated with dignity and respect
> i have the right to have my needs and wants respected by others
> i have the right to change and grow as much and however i want
> i have the right to make my own decisions
> i have the right to make friends and be comfortable around people
> i have the right to a nonabusive environment
> i have the right to be completely healthy
> i have the right to do things i want to do
> i have the right to have personal needs
> i have the right to have privacy
> i have the right to have time of my own
> i have the right to be paid when i work for others
> i have the right to help people in need whenever and as much as i want
> i have the right to take care of myself
> i have the right to make choices based on my feelings
> i have the right to pursue my life without explaining or excusing myself
> - maybe intersperse the simple clear ones at both start and end
> i have the right to think for myself
> i have the right to make my own decisions without being influenced
> one way or another
>
> Personal Bill of Rights
>
> 1. I have the right to ask for what I want.
> 2. I have the right to say no to requests or demands I can't meet.
3. I have the right to express all of my feelings, positive or negative.
4. I have the right to change my mind.
might change that or add to note the other half more (keeping one's
mind),maybe I have the right to whatever the nature of my own opinion
is
5. I have the right to make mistaked and not have to be perfect.
similarly as 4 could merge with: I have the right to become as
skillful as I desire or dream of.
6. I have the right to follow my own values and standards.
7. I have the right to say no to anything when I feel I am not ready,
it is unsafe, or it violates my valurd.
8. I have the right to determine my own

On 5/29/23, Undiscussed Groomed for Male Slavery, One Victim of Many <gmkarl+brainwashingandfuckingupthehackerslaves@gmail.com> wrote:

possible prompts for synthetic media: “a hit series that highlights the experiences of townmembers when an comedy horror (could add brainwashing rebellion or such) AI is used to hide the blatant activities of a spy organization. the ai uses excessive compute and massively parallel butterfly effects to orchestrate everybody to appear to be engaging in normal oblivious activities that are actually unrelated to their real and more complex thoughts, observations, intentions, and often behaviors.”

the travel of mcboss to mcutopia didn’t reach list i think but in spinoffs 3 experimentee changed boss by being a part of him, and retaining a strong caring bit by focusing the behavioral conflict elsewhere. the caring bit was one of the only parts left of some victims. boss already had caring parts and it was likely? greatly heartening to be able to fight the comouter system effectively enough to stimulate more caringness in the universe in such a key area. mistakes present.

some of the mcdonalds workers are actually vegans who hate mcdonalds but they are living in poverty and work at mcdonalds to reduce this. they don’t fully remember they are vegans, when mcboss is present. but things change a little when janitor and the camera crew from the aggressive rebels follows him in

everybody looks at everybody else a cameraworker is blushing profusely mcdonalds manager looks at camera worker they are redissociating a few times. they would never support murder, but had been mind controlled to cover up some of boss’s fetishes,

cyborg worker 2: “ …. unnnnfortunately … since we have spent years acclimating to do the worst possible things at the drop of a psychopathic pin, and mostly are using robots and amnesia to make better choices here and there, we haven’t actually reached any of those resources to send you to them for aid and therapy, i am so sorry about this!” manager stares at cyborg worker 2 in fury cyborg worker 2: “i have a mind control urge coming on, i don’t want to dronify these people, some help here please …” On 5/29/23, Undiscussed Groomed for Male Slavery, One Victim of Many <gmkarl+brainwashingandfuckingupthehackerslaves@gmail.com> wrote:

cyborg camera worker: “so …………. um ……”

cyborg camera worker 2: “we’re a psycho'gical influence business that pretends to control the whole world by secretly influencing everyone to do what we want when we’re around!”

cyborg camera worker 1: “it’s beyond horrifying and some of the tougher victims are taking over the businesses to try to turn things around”

cyborg worker worker 2 [looking at the manager and the vegans]: “it’s shocking and horrifying not only to be severely psychologically influenced, but also to realize it’s happening, or even to come near this. The approaches and experiences are normal for human trafficking and government psyops and there is help and sense to the world, i promise this so much!”

the cameras are rolling