"Too much netflix and youtube syndrome" affecting 'Merican children
A friend of mine about her four year old: "My daughter was doing a little song and dance this morning and was really boogieing down. She paused for a second and said,"I'm buffering" Rr
On Mon, Sep 05, 2016 at 08:00:04PM -0700, Razer wrote:
A friend of mine about her four year old:
"My daughter was doing a little song and dance this morning and was really boogieing down. She paused for a second and said,"I'm buffering"
Very similar in Bulgaria. Children start using tablets and/or smartphones at age 3-5. They can't read. Click on warnings/dialogs just to get rid of them, in hard situations they ask olders or rarely reset the "box". Very likely their "boxen" are full of malware. Saw a child about 6-7 yro doing voice google search. The child talked like to human, short of starting the search with "dear google".
The nephew of a friend was drawing with me. I drew the sun and a little boat in the sea. He drew a lot of squares and explained me: - It's a tablet, a cell phone, a notebook... :P He also says that "he has bugs" when is sick. Me too! :D -- "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it."
On 09/05/2016 11:38 PM, Cecilia Tanaka wrote:
The nephew of a friend was drawing with me. I drew the sun and a little boat in the sea. He drew a lot of squares and explained me: - It's a tablet, a cell phone, a notebook... :P
;)
He also says that "he has bugs" when is sick. Me too! :D
People talked about pathogens as bugs long before software existed. But if he had said that his brain had been 0dayed ;)
-- "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it."
On Sep 6, 2016 2:51 AM, "Mirimir" <mirimir@riseup.net> wrote:
On 09/05/2016 11:38 PM, Cecilia Tanaka wrote:
He also says that "he has bugs" when is sick. Me too! :D
People talked about pathogens as bugs long before software existed. But
if he had said that his brain had been 0dayed ;) It would be pretty cute, hihi! <3 Well, sometimes, looking to myself at mirror, I think "Uh, I need to keep better my hardware! It's an old model, so I need to take care!" :-/
On 09/05/2016 10:50 PM, Mirimir wrote:
On 09/05/2016 11:38 PM, Cecilia Tanaka wrote:
The nephew of a friend was drawing with me. I drew the sun and a little boat in the sea. He drew a lot of squares and explained me: - It's a tablet, a cell phone, a notebook... :P
;)
He also says that "he has bugs" when is sick. Me too! :D
People talked about pathogens as bugs long before software existed. But if he had said that his brain had been 0dayed ;)
The malware and bugs happen as the machine ages and the OS support gets slower, and eventually, obsoleted. Rr
-- "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it."
On 09/05/2016 10:21 PM, Georgi Guninski wrote:
On Mon, Sep 05, 2016 at 08:00:04PM -0700, Razer wrote:
A friend of mine about her four year old:
"My daughter was doing a little song and dance this morning and was really boogieing down. She paused for a second and said,"I'm buffering"
Very similar in Bulgaria. Children start using tablets and/or smartphones at age 3-5. They can't read. Click on warnings/dialogs just to get rid of them, in hard situations they ask olders or rarely reset the "box". Very likely their "boxen" are full of malware.
Saw a child about 6-7 yro doing voice google search. The child talked like to human, short of starting the search with "dear google".
My mistake about her age... 5. Her mom does allow her to use the desktop, with supervision. She picked up the word because she lives in the mountains (near Corralitos btw), the internet is gleaned from the main house a few hundred feet away over a wireless connection,and mom and her watch too much netflix... Buffering. Rr
My neice now at age of 10 years old, spend hours on youtube, and I am not concerned if she is catching bugs, or figuring out that the internet is slow, but instead I am concerned that the evil the techonology is making to happen to our children, besides the evil that it is also doing to us. Technology must be avoided as much as we can. The trully malware is not affecting our computers, but our minds. Sent from [ProtonMail](https://protonmail.com), encrypted email based in Switzerland. -------- Original Message -------- Subject: "Too much netflix and youtube syndrome" affecting 'Merican children Local Time: 6 de Setembro de 2016 12:00 AM UTC Time: 6 de Setembro de 2016 03:00 From: rayzer@riseup.net To: cypherpunks <cypherpunks@lists.cpunks.org> A friend of mine about her four year old: "My daughter was doing a little song and dance this morning and was really boogieing down. She paused for a second and said,"I'm buffering" Rr
On 09/06/2016 10:55 AM, Peressim wrote:
My neice now at age of 10 years old, spend hours on youtube, and I am not concerned if she is catching bugs, or figuring out that the internet is slow, but instead I am concerned that the evil the techonology is making to happen to our children, besides the evil that it is also doing to us. Technology must be avoided as much as we can. The trully malware is not affecting our computers, but our minds.
Sent from ProtonMail <https://protonmail.com>, encrypted email based in Switzerland.
-------- Original Message -------- Subject: "Too much netflix and youtube syndrome" affecting 'Merican children Local Time: 6 de Setembro de 2016 12:00 AM UTC Time: 6 de Setembro de 2016 03:00 From: rayzer@riseup.net To: cypherpunks <cypherpunks@lists.cpunks.org>
A friend of mine about her four year old:
"My daughter was doing a little song and dance this morning and was really boogieing down. She paused for a second and said,"I'm buffering"
Rr
When I was that age (late 1950s, NYC area) television was, not new, but new as a common household 'appliance' everyone aspired to own. The 'lucky ones' had 'color' tvs that were absolutely awful by modern standards but most people had B&W sets. When I watched TeeVee it was with the rest of the family, like an outing, or going to a movie. There was always an adult there to help me out with complex concepts (and violence... "Racket Squad, The Untouchables, and Highway Patrol were just as bloody as a modern war movie). Later in their history teevees became babysitters with no adult attending. It does make a difference to have an adult nearby watching teevee with you if you're a child, and not just a chronological adult which is what many are now days after being babysat by teevee until they were terminally 'dumbed' and numbed. This is how you get that way: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zYTRIGtyZ44 By Iconoclast Videos Music by Synthamesk - H/t @Stimulator "An abrasive analysis of popular culture under the spectacle of postmodern capitalism. Warning: This video may induce seizures."
On Tue, Sep 6, 2016 at 2:19 PM, Razer <rayzer@riseup.net> wrote:
On 09/06/2016 10:55 AM, Peressim wrote:
is slow, but instead I am concerned that the evil the techonology is making to happen to our children, besides the evil that it is also doing to us. Technology must be avoided as much as we can. The trully malware is not affecting our computers, but our minds.
When I was that age (late 1950s, NYC area) television was, not new, but new as a common household 'appliance' everyone aspired to own. The 'lucky ones' had 'color' tvs that were absolutely awful by modern standards but most people had B&W sets. When I watched TeeVee it was with the rest of the family, like an outing, or going to a movie. There was always an adult there to help me out with complex concepts (and violence... "Racket Squad, The Untouchables, and Highway Patrol were just as bloody as a modern war movie).
Later in their history teevees became babysitters with no adult attending. It does make a difference to have an adult nearby watching teevee with you if you're a child, and not just a chronological adult which is what many are now days after being babysat by teevee until they were terminally 'dumbed' and numbed.
This is how you get that way:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zYTRIGtyZ44
By Iconoclast Videos Music by Synthamesk - H/t @Stimulator
"An abrasive analysis of popular culture under the spectacle of postmodern capitalism. Warning: This video may induce seizures."
Word. We are in your deepwebs. OP Channel with moar sidebars... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ulj261Te2OQ Timewasting... https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=mindfucked
Later in their history teevees became babysitters with no adult attending. It does make a difference to have an adult nearby watching teevee with you if you're a child, and not just a chronological adult which is what many are now days after being babysat by teevee until they were terminally 'dumbed' and numbed.
ask terminally dumb juan about babysitting teveee unsupervised children
With a good critical thinking base, it is fairly easy to avoid the 'evil' of technology and technology-enabled communications while benefiting greatly from broad knowledge, understanding, and, ideally, beneficial connections. If you are limited to or you choose the path of ignorance, you may fall for anything. Good critical thinking capability, along with a good awareness of scams, cognitive bias mistake patterns, and risk analysis, is a multi-layered defense-in-depth system, with the penultimate safety of a cognitive-enabled application level firewall. Lesser mental architectures try to stop everything with a port-based firewalls or anti-virus, but they're wide open to easily constructed phishing and zero-day attack. Openness to memetic infection is like allowing anyone to run code as root at the host level rather than in a throwaway Docker container. The opposite problem is being so afraid of being taken again that you won't incorporate anything new because you don't trust that you can discriminate. That's a lot like refusing to update your software for fear of exploit but leaving yourself open to now-known bugs and gaps that have been fixed. Or you simply are used to your current pattern and dislike change; to be safe, you may reject most input. I left home at 15 and taught myself programming etc., so I have a bias toward self-sufficiency: I didn't believe in sheltering my children except at the extremes; they are thoroughly resistant to memetic infection. sdw On 9/6/16 10:55 AM, Peressim wrote:
My neice now at age of 10 years old, spend hours on youtube, and I am not concerned if she is catching bugs, or figuring out that the internet is slow, but instead I am concerned that the evil the techonology is making to happen to our children, besides the evil that it is also doing to us. Technology must be avoided as much as we can. The trully malware is not affecting our computers, but our minds.
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-------- Original Message -------- Subject: "Too much netflix and youtube syndrome" affecting 'Merican children Local Time: 6 de Setembro de 2016 12:00 AM UTC Time: 6 de Setembro de 2016 03:00 From: rayzer@riseup.net To: cypherpunks <cypherpunks@lists.cpunks.org>
A friend of mine about her four year old:
"My daughter was doing a little song and dance this morning and was really boogieing down. She paused for a second and said,"I'm buffering"
Rr
sdw
On 09/06/2016 12:47 PM, Stephen D. Williams wrote:
With a good critical thinking base, it is fairly easy to avoid the 'evil' of technology and technology-enabled communications while benefiting greatly from broad knowledge, understanding, and, ideally, beneficial connections. If you are limited to or you choose the path of ignorance, you may fall for anything.
Good critical thinking capability, along with a good awareness of scams, cognitive bias mistake patterns, and risk analysis, is a multi-layered defense-in-depth system, with the penultimate safety of a cognitive-enabled application level firewall. Lesser mental architectures try to stop everything with a port-based firewalls or anti-virus, but they're wide open to easily constructed phishing and zero-day attack. Openness to memetic infection is like allowing anyone to run code as root at the host level rather than in a throwaway Docker container. The opposite problem is being so afraid of being taken again that you won't incorporate anything new because you don't trust that you can discriminate. That's a lot like refusing to update your software for fear of exploit but leaving yourself open to now-known bugs and gaps that have been fixed. Or you simply are used to your current pattern and dislike change; to be safe, you may reject most input.
I left home at 15 and taught myself programming etc., so I have a bias toward self-sufficiency: I didn't believe in sheltering my children except at the extremes; they are thoroughly resistant to memetic infection.
sdw
I like that :) It's always useful to compartmentalize through virtualization.
On 9/6/16 10:55 AM, Peressim wrote:
My neice now at age of 10 years old, spend hours on youtube, and I am not concerned if she is catching bugs, or figuring out that the internet is slow, but instead I am concerned that the evil the techonology is making to happen to our children, besides the evil that it is also doing to us. Technology must be avoided as much as we can. The trully malware is not affecting our computers, but our minds.
Sent from ProtonMail <https://protonmail.com>, encrypted email based in Switzerland.
-------- Original Message -------- Subject: "Too much netflix and youtube syndrome" affecting 'Merican children Local Time: 6 de Setembro de 2016 12:00 AM UTC Time: 6 de Setembro de 2016 03:00 From: rayzer@riseup.net To: cypherpunks <cypherpunks@lists.cpunks.org>
A friend of mine about her four year old:
"My daughter was doing a little song and dance this morning and was really boogieing down. She paused for a second and said,"I'm buffering"
Rr
sdw
On Mon, Sep 05, 2016 at 08:00:04PM -0700, Razer wrote:
A friend of mine about her four year old:
"My daughter was doing a little song and dance this morning and was really boogieing down. She paused for a second and said,"I'm buffering"
Speaking of children, Jordan Peterson with a true story: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4baRTivL_fQ Freedom toons: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rUdxCj7IKCY
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