Or the global cost of decentralized abuses. Which could be, and used to be, worse. Name your abuse of choice: it's worse when it's being done everywhere to / by everyone.
let's play a game: centralized power to redress cultural wrongs. assuming that Stephen is speaking of social concerns; a centralized action designed to redress cultural norms could be righteous, right? who can say "Brown v. Board of Education" was not the arc of history? these are the seductions of centralization - when they accomplish easily what is hard fought directly. to think that centralized power is only utilized for righteous ends is to succumb to the fallacy. no, decentralized malicious actions are not as bad as centralized ones. they are, by definition, limited. e.g. within the realm of direct intervention. best regards,
On Tue, Mar 26, 2019 at 4:35 PM coderman <coderman@protonmail.com> wrote:
Or the global cost of decentralized abuses. Which could be, and used to be, worse. Name your abuse of choice: it's worse when it's being done everywhere to / by everyone.
let's play a game: centralized power to redress cultural wrongs.
assuming that Stephen is speaking of social concerns; a centralized action designed to redress cultural norms could be righteous, right?
who can say "Brown v. Board of Education" was not the arc of history?
these are the seductions of centralization - when they accomplish easily what is hard fought directly.
to think that centralized power is only utilized for righteous ends is to succumb to the fallacy.
no, decentralized malicious actions are not as bad as centralized ones. they are, by definition, limited. e.g. within the realm of direct intervention.
best regards,
Three quotes from a man of wisdom, which seem apropos here: The danger is not that a particular class is unfit to govern. Every class is unfit to govern. - Lord Acton It is bad to be oppressed by a minority, but it is worse to be oppressed by a majority. For there is a reserve of latent power in the masses which, if it is called into play, the minority can seldom resist. But from the absolute will of an entire people there is no appeal, no redemption, no refuge but treason. - Lord Acton There is no worse heresy than that the office sanctifies the holder of it. - Lord Acton Kurt
On 3/26/19 4:48 PM, Kurt Buff - GSEC, GCIH wrote:
On Tue, Mar 26, 2019 at 4:35 PM coderman <coderman@protonmail.com> wrote:
Or the global cost of decentralized abuses. Which could be, and used to be, worse. Name your abuse of choice: it's worse when it's being done everywhere to / by everyone. let's play a game: centralized power to redress cultural wrongs.
assuming that Stephen is speaking of social concerns; a centralized action designed to redress cultural norms could be righteous, right?
who can say "Brown v. Board of Education" was not the arc of history?
these are the seductions of centralization - when they accomplish easily what is hard fought directly.
to think that centralized power is only utilized for righteous ends is to succumb to the fallacy.
no, decentralized malicious actions are not as bad as centralized ones. they are, by definition, limited. e.g. within the realm of direct intervention.
Each may seem limited, but in aggregate, their available bandwidth exceeds the restricted bandwidth of centralized failures. Debugging is much easier in your scalable Docker app stack running in AWS then a million individual IoT programs running autonomously distributed and uncoordinated.
best regards,
Three quotes from a man of wisdom, which seem apropos here:
The danger is not that a particular class is unfit to govern. Every class is unfit to govern. - Lord Acton
It is bad to be oppressed by a minority, but it is worse to be oppressed by a majority. For there is a reserve of latent power in the masses which, if it is called into play, the minority can seldom resist. But from the absolute will of an entire people there is no appeal, no redemption, no refuge but treason. - Lord Acton
There is no worse heresy than that the office sanctifies the holder of it. - Lord Acton
+1
Kurt
sdw
On Tue, 26 Mar 2019 16:48:04 -0700 "Kurt Buff - GSEC, GCIH" <kurt.buff@gmail.com> wrote:
Lord Acton
Perfect case in point. 'lord' acton was a catholic piece of shit, a full member of the english oligarchy, sided with the southern slave states during teh US civil war, was converted into 'baron acton' by a divine decree of CUNT VICTORIA, et cetera I would bet a couple of cents that kurt buff knows exactly shit about libertarianism apart from the conservative propaganda he learned by reading 2 'anarcho' fascist articles from moises.org
Kurt
On Wed, Mar 27, 2019 at 12:04 PM Punk <punks@tfwno.gf> wrote:
On Tue, 26 Mar 2019 16:48:04 -0700 "Kurt Buff - GSEC, GCIH" <kurt.buff@gmail.com> wrote:
Lord Acton
Perfect case in point. 'lord' acton was a catholic piece of shit, a full member of the english oligarchy, sided with the southern slave states during teh US civil war, was converted into 'baron acton' by a divine decree of CUNT VICTORIA, et cetera
I would bet a couple of cents that kurt buff knows exactly shit about libertarianism apart from the conservative propaganda he learned by reading 2 'anarcho' fascist articles from moises.org
Kurt
- You misspelled mises.org - You'd lose your money on that bet, you foul-mouthed anti-intellectual pinheaded know-nothing. HAND, TTFN, Kurt
On Wed, 27 Mar 2019 12:28:11 -0700 "Kurt Buff - GSEC, GCIH" <kurt.buff@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wed, Mar 27, 2019 at 12:04 PM Punk <punks@tfwno.gf> wrote:
On Tue, 26 Mar 2019 16:48:04 -0700 "Kurt Buff - GSEC, GCIH" <kurt.buff@gmail.com> wrote:
Lord Acton
Perfect case in point. 'lord' acton was a catholic piece of shit, a full member of the english oligarchy, sided with the southern slave states during teh US civil war, was converted into 'baron acton' by a divine decree of CUNT VICTORIA, et cetera
I would bet a couple of cents that kurt buff knows exactly shit about libertarianism apart from the conservative propaganda he learned by reading 2 'anarcho' fascist articles from moises.org
Kurt
- You misspelled mises.org
LMAO!!! Dude, I didn't 'misspell' MOISES. What do you think is the origin of the surname of fascist JEW 'von' MISES? Eh? MOISES(spanish) - MOSES - MISES - get it now?
- You'd lose your money on that bet, you foul-mouthed anti-intellectual pinheaded know-nothing.
sonny, so far the only thing you've done is fully prove my point by copypasta-ing a couple of quotes from arch conservative asshole 'sir' 'lord' 'baron' acton. do I need to explain yet again how catholic theocracy and english oligarchy are the non plus ultra of the ancien regime and so as anti libertarian, pro conservative as it gets?
GSEC, GCIH
uh, what can that possibly be? Certified corporate fascist perhaps?
HAND, TTFN,
STASI
Kurt
plonk On Wed, Mar 27, 2019 at 12:43 PM Punk <punks@tfwno.gf> wrote:
On Wed, 27 Mar 2019 12:28:11 -0700 "Kurt Buff - GSEC, GCIH" <kurt.buff@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wed, Mar 27, 2019 at 12:04 PM Punk <punks@tfwno.gf> wrote:
On Tue, 26 Mar 2019 16:48:04 -0700 "Kurt Buff - GSEC, GCIH" <kurt.buff@gmail.com> wrote:
Lord Acton
Perfect case in point. 'lord' acton was a catholic piece of shit, a full member of the english oligarchy, sided with the southern slave states during teh US civil war, was converted into 'baron acton' by a divine decree of CUNT VICTORIA, et cetera
I would bet a couple of cents that kurt buff knows exactly shit about libertarianism apart from the conservative propaganda he learned by reading 2 'anarcho' fascist articles from moises.org
Kurt
- You misspelled mises.org
LMAO!!! Dude, I didn't 'misspell' MOISES. What do you think is the origin of the surname of fascist JEW 'von' MISES? Eh? MOISES(spanish) - MOSES - MISES - get it now?
- You'd lose your money on that bet, you foul-mouthed anti-intellectual pinheaded know-nothing.
sonny, so far the only thing you've done is fully prove my point by copypasta-ing a couple of quotes from arch conservative asshole 'sir' 'lord' 'baron' acton.
do I need to explain yet again how catholic theocracy and english oligarchy are the non plus ultra of the ancien regime and so as anti libertarian, pro conservative as it gets?
GSEC, GCIH
uh, what can that possibly be? Certified corporate fascist perhaps?
HAND, TTFN,
STASI
Kurt
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