This may ultimately come through twice sorry, with different subject lines - the first forward attempt made has not yet come through, so this time I've changed the subject, removed the tor talk subject prefix and indented the email as you see below. Emails are usually "instantaneous" - with the new cp listserv, at most a minute has consistently been enough to see my email to the list, come right back to me, so this is odd - checked gmail's spam folder and all... Let's see if this one works... ----- Forwarded message from grarpamp D ate: Wed, 19 Oct 2016 19:26:26 -0400 F rom: grarpamp T o: tor-talk@lists.torproject.org To the extent that any leaking, sunshine, analysis, media and communication regarding governments occurs over the Tor network, such as via SecureDrop, Ricochet, Elgg, etc... We now have presidential candidates publicly and explicitly naming and quoting Wikileaks [1] in a relatively positive light (even if not yet similarly referencing and understanding Tor [though their staffers might]). Example... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7YaQwKXpwQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5KEAJ5qxFJw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5GQTv1DaQqI Though this ventures into mechanics of politics, I think it's deeply relavent to some of the many reasons anonymous overlay networks and crypto exist (not limited to Tor), why people contribute to them, why they need to succeed. [1] There are probably better videos of presidential candidates referencing wikileaks far more in depth and at length than these (hopefully including mentions to nets and crypto), they just popped as examples in one of many feeds such as... https://www.reddit.com/r/wikileaks+conspiracy ...so if you see any examples of them (even congress candidates) referencing or discussing any type of communications network like Tor, Signal, Tox etc, or crypto, whether by name or by context, in any light... please post it. (No, the iPhone crypto FBI thing doesn't count.) For example, as opposed to the US, a number of Euro office seekers already talk about nets and crypto long ago. ----- End forwarded message -----