Signal (as I think its now called) wants your phone number and does SMS verification for sign up. I haven't used it so am not sure how this process works or occurs but doesn't sound very privacy enhancing to me. On 15/11/15 18:56, coderman wrote:

On 11/14/15, Zenaan Harkness wrote:

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I think RedPhone / Open Whisper Systems is a start to what we might achieve as a "base" level of privacy for "most people"...

moxie makes compromises (by playing within the Apple/GOOG system)

we should do better!

On Sun, 15 Nov 2015 10:56:58 -0800 coderman wrote:

On 11/14/15, Zenaan Harkness wrote:

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I think RedPhone / Open Whisper Systems is a start to what we might achieve as a "base" level of privacy for "most people"...

moxie makes compromises (by playing within the Apple/GOOG system)

not only that, but the 'architecture' is just ordinary client/server?

we should do better!