On 10/27/20, jamesd@echeque.com wrote:

On 2020-10-27 00:12, Karl wrote:

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Why are things different?

Holiness spiral.

Leftism has been getting lefter and lefter, faster and faster, for two centuries.

Eventually you get the left singularity - most recent examples being France and Russia.

Then God shows up and opens up a whole new universe on they ass... ;) https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8876569/God-right-president-Interne... https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/10/never-trumper-doxxes-maga-nuns-seen... https://www.foxnews.com/politics/nuns-maga-masks-trump-rally

Do you speak code? I want to send you a half-joke, but I don't know if you're a programmer. Here it is in English: James and Karl walk into a bar. They sit down at a table, the bartender notices them and indicates he'll be right there. "So," says Karl. "I wanted to get involved in some of the discussions around protecting some of the oppressed beliefs going on. The beliefs of say people who hate Black people, or want the only way to survive to be working a job. Thing is I don't know any of these people well, and don't really know their stories. In social justice circles, we share the stories of people so that others can understand and respect them. We could make sure people all get the college acceptances, tax breaks, etc that they really deserve." James flips the table upside down. "Are you upset?" asks Karl. "Nah," replies James. The bartender nods understandingly. "What did I say?" Karl asks. The bartender walks over, "You really don't understand this guy at all. Have you read anything he's written? Have you looked at any of the media his people spread?" "Well, no .... I don't have that much time ..." Karl responded. "People with these beliefs are appearing out of nowhere and expressing stuff! People are getting hurt! They say their people are getting hurt too! Don't we need to talk?" The bartender kicks Karl and James out of the bar. "We respect the boundaries of establishments here, friends. I certainly won't be fighting alongside people who don't respect my bar." On Tue, Oct 27, 2020 at 9:18 AM Karl wrote:

This dying leftist is hugging you, James.

I won't force you to believe in socialism.

But I'll still give money to people who don't have it, myself.

Money's going away soon. Kind of a thing for people to play with while other stuff happens.

On Tue, Oct 27, 2020 at 4:27 AM wrote:

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On 2020-10-27 00:12, Karl wrote:

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Why are things different?

Holiness spiral.

Leftism has been getting lefter and lefter, faster and faster, for two centuries.

Eventually you get the left singularity - most recent examples being France and Russia.

On 2020-10-27 23:47, Karl wrote:

the discussions around protecting some of the oppressed beliefs going on. The beliefs of say people who hate Black people

You are demonizing your opponents. Which, under present circumstances, leads to murder and is preparatory for mass murder. There are people who hate Jews. There are people who hate straights. There is no one who hates blacks. No one hates their inferiors. No one hates or hated blacks, least of all the slave traders. No one hates gays, least of all the people throwing them off high buildings. People are frequently troubled by problems caused by their inferiors, and want those problems to go away. But if the problems can be made to go away without harming their inferiors, they are very comfortable with that. Everyone was mighty comfortable with the late eighteenth century nineteenth century arrangement where gays theoretically did not exist.