On 07/15/2016 08:16 PM, Zenaan Harkness wrote:

On Fri, Jul 15, 2016 at 08:00:52PM -0700, Rayzer wrote:

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On 07/15/2016 12:54 PM, juan wrote:

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https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2016/07/security_effect.html

"Security Effectiveness of the Israeli West Bank Barrier"

"The Barrier together with associated security activities was effective in preventing suicide bombings and other attacks and fatalities with little if any apparent displacement. Changes in terrorist behavior likely resulted from the construction of the Barrier, not from other external factors or events."

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So that's the kind of nazi war propaganda that this highly reputable new member of the tor's 'board of directors' posts in his blog. The only thing that matters when you write an analysis is that it's correct. The question was obvious. His answer was clear. If it wasn't effective he would have said so, and that's what matters. Actually, what matters to some is the nature/ character/ principles of a man or woman.

Juan's presented facts speak loudly to this, and are in fact, what matters.

You seem to have a problem understanding honesty as a virtue yet you so go on on about "nature/ character/ principles". Wutsupwitsdat? A little hypocrite wot? As I said I have no computer industry friends and the crap you're spewing is illustrative of why that might be. Rr

On 07/15/2016 11:19 PM, Zenaan Harkness wrote:

On Fri, Jul 15, 2016 at 08:44:43PM -0700, Rayzer wrote:

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On 07/15/2016 08:16 PM, Zenaan Harkness wrote:

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On Fri, Jul 15, 2016 at 08:00:52PM -0700, Rayzer wrote:

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On 07/15/2016 12:54 PM, juan wrote:

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https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2016/07/security_effect.html

"Security Effectiveness of the Israeli West Bank Barrier"

"The Barrier together with associated security activities was effective in preventing suicide bombings and other attacks and fatalities with little if any apparent displacement. Changes in terrorist behavior likely resulted from the construction of the Barrier, not from other external factors or events."

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So that's the kind of nazi war propaganda that this highly reputable new member of the tor's 'board of directors' posts in his blog. The only thing that matters when you write an analysis is that it's correct. The question was obvious. His answer was clear. If it wasn't effective he would have said so, and that's what matters. Actually, what matters to some is the nature/ character/ principles of a man or woman.

Juan's presented facts speak loudly to this, and are in fact, what matters.

You seem to have a problem understanding honesty as a virtue

Fact: Schnier deleted Juan's post.

I call this something other than honesty.

Taste? Bruce doesn't hide the fact that he moderates comments on his blog. If he claimed that he doesn't delete posts, but in fact does, that would be dishonest. It's his blog, so it's his choice.

Did you unintentionally misunderstand me?

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yet you so go on on about "nature/ character/ principles". Wutsupwitsdat? A little hypocrite wot? As I said I have no computer industry friends and the crap you're spewing is illustrative of why that might be.

Why are you quoting my post in this Juan? You weren't responding to me. Are all the widdle lines on the sidebar moving around on you b/c narcotics? On 07/16/2016 12:18 PM, juan wrote:

On Fri, 15 Jul 2016 23:47:00 -0600 Mirimir wrote:

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Bruce doesn't hide the fact that he moderates comments on his blog. Bruce? What, is the shitbag a family member of yours or something?

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Bruce doesn't hide the fact that he moderates comments on his blog. He doesn't? So where's the notice saying that he is a censor who will delete comments he doesn't like?

And even if there was such notice, that wouldn't change the fact that he's an intellectual fraud.

Exactly like you mirimir. Yep, I've had enough of you =) You've finally proven you are a piece of shit - not to be trusted, at all.

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If he claimed that he doesn't delete posts, but in fact does, that would be dishonest.

It's his blog, so it's his choice.

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Did you unintentionally misunderstand me?

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yet you so go on on about "nature/ character/ principles". Wutsupwitsdat? A little hypocrite wot? As I said I have no computer industry friends and the crap you're spewing is illustrative of why that might be.

The purpose of cpunks is to host aggressive messages others with thin skins, reputations, profits, ideologies and egos to protect delete. Which may explain why deleters appear absent here (many are ghosts) but do lurk or have lurkers and protection agents watching for slightest challenge, keeping lists for covert anonymized retribution -- for worst offenses, extermination -- following the lead of nations and religions. Moderated fora, Wikipedia the prime example, Tor a slight one, cannot abide misbehavior or funding will be squeezed or shut down. Govs, NGOs. coms, are moderated to assure survival of banality as cover for brutality. Celebrity is moderation, and might be better called tampering. At 11:09 AM 7/16/2016, you wrote:

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On 07/15/2016 10:19 PM, Zenaan Harkness wrote:

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Fact: Schnier deleted Juan's post.

Fact. Juan is a TROLL who couldn't possibly have anything rational to add to anything Schnier posts.

First ad hom and he's gone most anywhere anytime anyway.

Tough darts. No one's got the time for spew.

I have ongoing problems with the local indymedia redacting my comments because they don't adhere to their unfathomable ideology that I can't quite identify, so I simply don't bother posting there.

What was it someone said about freedom of the press is OWNING the press?

If Juan has something to say that Bruce Schnier doesn't want to hear or allow in his comments he should start a blog. Write an open letter and use all those SEO tricks to get his post noticed by the same people who read Schnier.

The fallacious assumption you're making here is that Schnier owes him a soapbox to respond, IF what Juan does can be considered 'responding'. No one owes anyone shit.

Rr

On 07/16/2016 12:35 PM, juan wrote:

On Sat, 16 Jul 2016 08:09:17 -0700 Rayzer wrote:

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On 07/15/2016 10:19 PM, Zenaan Harkness wrote:

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Fact: Schnier deleted Juan's post.

Fact. Juan is a TROLL who couldn't possibly have anything rational to add to anything Schnier posts.

schneider is a jewish neocon like you rayzer =)

OOPS. Your 'lefty' 'progressive' 'humanitarian' mask fell off yet again =)

I rest my case. Rr