Gramps ' Theory '  being a vacuous imbeciles ' Fantasy ' as seen by . . .

...

...

   And remember, we really tangled with these guys in the 90's. Public key    cryptography was regarded a weapon of war back then. The American    government was really friggin' pissed off at us, and did as much damage as    they could within the law. Constant harassment, legal pressure, people    lost their jobs... the whole thing was constantly on the verge of    everybody ending up in jail as far as we could tell. <<<

No cypherpunk was ever jailed, based on list activities, in the eternal sunshine of a vacuous imbeciles mind.