Re: Why cryptome sold web logs to their paying customers?
If Mike had uploaded them without full inspection, no problem. But, as I understand the narrative, he knowingly uploaded them.
I found them after uploading them, as I and the Daily Dot article said. He discovered the files when he uploaded the contents of the sticks to the
Internet Archive, Best told the Daily Dot in a Twitter message. “Scrolling down through the list, I found about a hundred awstats log files listed in a row,” he said, referring to Cryptome analytics data.
On Sat, Oct 10, 2015 at 5:10 PM, Michael Best <themikebest@gmail.com> wrote:
To prove the GCHQ slide could've been fake, getting John to fix the leak and stop calling me a liar. Same as I've said all along. How is that implausible?
On Sat, Oct 10, 2015 at 5:08 PM, Razer <Rayzer@riseup.net> wrote:
Got it. Totally altruistic motivation...
On 10/10/2015 01:46 PM, Michael Best wrote:
"Any money" is still more than I'll make off this. My only compensation is a headache from ridiculous accusations.
Any chance you hold this same standard to Snowden and consider his press coverage as "an ongoing for-profit commercial motivation as redistributor" for the NSA docs?
Sent from my iPhone
On Oct 10, 2015, at 16:39, Razer <Rayzer@riseup.net> wrote:
On 10/10/2015 01:35 PM, Michael Best wrote:
Nope, laughing at someone who has no idea how little a media mention is worth in terms of money.
Sent from my iPhone
Yes I do and it depends on how much money you consider 'money'... For some, paying the rent is enough. Ask any artist or musician.
RR
On Oct 10, 2015, at 16:33, Razer < <Rayzer@riseup.net>Rayzer@riseup.net> wrote:
Nervous laugh...
On 10/10/2015 01:32 PM, Michael Best wrote:
I say Best's name's appearance in DailyDot or
any other media constitutes an ongoing for-profit commercial motivation as redistributor.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
On 10/10/2015 05:10 PM, Michael Best wrote:
If Mike had uploaded them without full inspection, no problem. But, as I understand the narrative, he knowingly uploaded them.
I found them after uploading them, as I and the Daily Dot article said.
OK, I forgot that :( So you get a pass too ;) But then, why justify yourself, saying that you didn't get a straight answer from JYA?
He discovered the files when he uploaded the contents of the sticks to the
Internet Archive, Best told the Daily Dot in a Twitter message. “Scrolling down through the list, I found about a hundred awstats log files listed in a row,” he said, referring to Cryptome analytics data.
Does "when" mean "before" or "after"? But I take your clarification. My point hasn't been to blame you, or JYA. But there is stuff to learn.
On Sat, Oct 10, 2015 at 5:10 PM, Michael Best <themikebest@gmail.com> wrote:
To prove the GCHQ slide could've been fake, getting John to fix the leak and stop calling me a liar. Same as I've said all along. How is that implausible?
On Sat, Oct 10, 2015 at 5:08 PM, Razer <Rayzer@riseup.net> wrote:
Got it. Totally altruistic motivation...
On 10/10/2015 01:46 PM, Michael Best wrote:
"Any money" is still more than I'll make off this. My only compensation is a headache from ridiculous accusations.
Any chance you hold this same standard to Snowden and consider his press coverage as "an ongoing for-profit commercial motivation as redistributor" for the NSA docs?
Sent from my iPhone
On Oct 10, 2015, at 16:39, Razer <Rayzer@riseup.net> wrote:
On 10/10/2015 01:35 PM, Michael Best wrote:
Nope, laughing at someone who has no idea how little a media mention is worth in terms of money.
Sent from my iPhone
Yes I do and it depends on how much money you consider 'money'... For some, paying the rent is enough. Ask any artist or musician.
RR
On Oct 10, 2015, at 16:33, Razer < <Rayzer@riseup.net>Rayzer@riseup.net> wrote:
Nervous laugh...
On 10/10/2015 01:32 PM, Michael Best wrote:
I say Best's name's appearance in DailyDot or
any other media constitutes an ongoing for-profit commercial motivation as redistributor.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
On 10/10/2015 05:10 PM, Michael Best wrote:
If Mike had uploaded them without full inspection, no problem. But, as I understand the narrative, he knowingly uploaded them.
I found them after uploading them, as I and the Daily Dot article said.
Also, just to be clear, here's how I would have handled this. So I have these Cryptome archives. And I upload them to the Internet Archive. And then I notice that [what the fuck!] they include weblogs! And so I contact the Internet Archive, and make sure that they don't propagate my upload. Then I remove the weblogs from the Cryptome archives, and upload them to the Internet Archive. Then I email JYA etc etc etc. For whatever that's worth ;)
He discovered the files when he uploaded the contents of the sticks to the
Internet Archive, Best told the Daily Dot in a Twitter message. “Scrolling down through the list, I found about a hundred awstats log files listed in a row,” he said, referring to Cryptome analytics data.
On Sat, Oct 10, 2015 at 5:10 PM, Michael Best <themikebest@gmail.com> wrote:
To prove the GCHQ slide could've been fake, getting John to fix the leak and stop calling me a liar. Same as I've said all along. How is that implausible?
On Sat, Oct 10, 2015 at 5:08 PM, Razer <Rayzer@riseup.net> wrote:
Got it. Totally altruistic motivation...
On 10/10/2015 01:46 PM, Michael Best wrote:
"Any money" is still more than I'll make off this. My only compensation is a headache from ridiculous accusations.
Any chance you hold this same standard to Snowden and consider his press coverage as "an ongoing for-profit commercial motivation as redistributor" for the NSA docs?
Sent from my iPhone
On Oct 10, 2015, at 16:39, Razer <Rayzer@riseup.net> wrote:
On 10/10/2015 01:35 PM, Michael Best wrote:
Nope, laughing at someone who has no idea how little a media mention is worth in terms of money.
Sent from my iPhone
Yes I do and it depends on how much money you consider 'money'... For some, paying the rent is enough. Ask any artist or musician.
RR
On Oct 10, 2015, at 16:33, Razer < <Rayzer@riseup.net>Rayzer@riseup.net> wrote:
Nervous laugh...
On 10/10/2015 01:32 PM, Michael Best wrote:
I say Best's name's appearance in DailyDot or
any other media constitutes an ongoing for-profit commercial motivation as redistributor.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
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