Re: Jacob Appelbaum in Germany
--On Saturday, January 04, 2014 10:55 AM +1000 "James A. Donald" <jamesd@echeque.com> wrote:
On 2014-01-04 07:04, Juan Garofalo wrote:
If you believed in the typical conservative "my house, my rules" garbage, why would you post in this mailing where people are supposed to subscribe to anarchistic and anti-intelectual 'property' views?
Schwarz was not charged with violating other people's intellectual property, but other people's physical property.
He needed killing, just as much as Martin Trayvon did, for much the same reasons as Martin Trayvon needed killing.
If an anti state protester, protest state power, not property. If you are protesting property, you are a pro state protestor
Which is why Schwarz thought he was part of the powerful, and thought those he harmed were part of the powerless. Because he was striking at physical property, not intellectual property.
1) that he wasn't striking at intellectual property is your (false) side of the story. 2) the physical property of the state and its accomplices isn't legitimate property, or rather, it isn't *their* property. "He needed killing, just as much as Martin Trayvon did" may the one who needs killing is you.
On 2014-01-05 08:44, Juan Garofalo wrote:
1) that he wasn't striking at intellectual property is your (false) side of the story.
2) the physical property of the state and its accomplices isn't legitimate property, or rather, it isn't *their* property.
That Aaron Schwarz repeatedly drew attention to himself by recklessly disrupting the network shows he thought of himself as the state, and those who he harmed as not the state. Much as Henry Louis Gates obviously considered himself the state, and a mere policeman as not the state. Snowden knew he risked punishment for civil disobedience, and so made his activities as normal as possible, as unobtrusive as possible. Aaron Schwarz did not know, and was so horrified to discover he was not part of the powerful that he followed in the footsteps of his hero Wallace and killed himself. Plus, just look at the smirk on his face. That says "I am powerful and protected, and those I have just harmed are not."
No offense, James, but this is the prosecutor's view, who went on to claim at a press conference, quote: "So the little fucker offed himself, saving the state bucks, fine by me," she said. Adding, "let this be a warning smartass motherfuckers at MIT, we are onto you, thanks to cooperating wits in the administration totally dependent upon government funding for invention of cruel and inhuman weapons." She paused, scratched her balls, went on, and on and on. The press drifted away, she followed, going on and on. Watching her was the Boston Marathon bombers. She was re-elected by the highly educated criminal class in Boston, that is Boston. Boston, as you know is the fountainhead of Austin's criminal class, who when not drunk as skunks at junk arts, music and TED festivals funded by NSA contractor Dell, regularly elects venal politicians same as down east Kennedy thugs. At 06:36 PM 1/4/2014, you wrote:
On 2014-01-05 08:44, Juan Garofalo wrote:
1) that he wasn't striking at intellectual property is your (false) side of the story.
2) the physical property of the state and its accomplices isn't legitimate property, or rather, it isn't *their* property.
That Aaron Schwarz repeatedly drew attention to himself by recklessly disrupting the network shows he thought of himself as the state, and those who he harmed as not the state. Much as Henry Louis Gates obviously considered himself the state, and a mere policeman as not the state.
Snowden knew he risked punishment for civil disobedience, and so made his activities as normal as possible, as unobtrusive as possible. Aaron Schwarz did not know, and was so horrified to discover he was not part of the powerful that he followed in the footsteps of his hero Wallace and killed himself.
Plus, just look at the smirk on his face. That says "I am powerful and protected, and those I have just harmed are not."
NSA contractor and Stratfor client Dell. ( http://whowhatwhy.com/2013/07/17/are-mexican-drug-lords-the-next-terrorist-t... ) Douglas On 01/04/2014 06:26 PM, John Young wrote:
No offense, James, but this is the prosecutor's view, who went on to claim at a press conference, quote: "So the little fucker offed himself, saving the state bucks, fine by me," she said. Adding, "let this be a warning smartass motherfuckers at MIT, we are onto you, thanks to cooperating wits in the administration totally dependent upon government funding for invention of cruel and inhuman weapons."
She paused, scratched her balls, went on, and on and on. The press drifted away, she followed, going on and on. Watching her was the Boston Marathon bombers.
She was re-elected by the highly educated criminal class in Boston, that is Boston. Boston, as you know is the fountainhead of Austin's criminal class, who when not drunk as skunks at junk arts, music and TED festivals funded by NSA contractor Dell, regularly elects venal politicians same as down east Kennedy thugs.
participants (4)
-
Douglas Lucas -
James A. Donald -
John Young -
Juan Garofalo