jim bell jdb10987 at yahoo.com Fri Oct 27 11:00:11 PDT 2017

I didn't purport to "tax" anyone. I ask for donations.

You "cheekily" suggested a finder fee for increasing the "value" of "coin" properties. Finder "fees" are a "tax".

distinguish between "tax" and a "donation"

Both are the redistribution of "wealth", e.g., the same. Only the context changes. Mandatory and optional "taxes" or "exchanges of value for service" are the same kind of payment within a different context. You can disguise coerced payments as "donations" all you want, it doesn't change the truth. The open-source/libre communities have been doing this for decades. And the church, even longer.

achieve freedom by means of AP (murda)

This is very violent. Cypherpunks is a board of peace. You should fork your work to my 'Archive Politics', project.

"the expression of certain freedoms" Be more specific.

I think you said it breddu gud: Freedom is free. Getting to a condition of freedom, however, is not the same thing as being free. We have to do things to become free."" -Jim Bell

Explain what you call "[my] double standard with "taxes""

I did above. Finders "fee" for crypto. I do not object to your pursuit of wealth, via direct donation, to pay for your time in developing a new system of political governance.

you split up these comments in a confusing fashion

I snip out the bulk and keep what is heard. Your actual quote is archived in the previous thread post, I am only referencing.

It's hard to respond when you do that.

Don't you use HTML email ? It is difficult to read when you do that. Your words are often not separated from the content you quote. But this is an unmoderated list =)

deliberately misrepresenting me you distort what I actually wrote

Nope. Just posting what I hear, to establish a reference for my words. What you write, "in my own words", for aiding accuracy. It enables (you) to make edits to initial statements or "signals" as received by (me). "Just one murder away from utopia" is a Gommunist critique and parallels my observation of your AP system.

definitional drivel deleted you are falsely representing the definition of "State"

Lol. You cannot ignore the agreed meaning of words you use without offering alternative meanings. Unless you define 'state'/'State' different than 'state' (state of something) or 'State' (Antarctic State), you are subject to the logic of my argument which asserts that a "State" is an individual and/or collective status of beliefes and agreements protected only by the individual and/or collective ability to defend the status of these beliefs and agreements.

I don't recall ever having "agreed" to

Voided oaths do not apply.

ded guyz made the decision for me usual excuse

Not an excuse because it is not true. Americans must reaffirm their "constitution" every generation.

that criticism is quite backwards AP donations are going to be made by individuals "The interests of the group" are irrelevant

"The Group" in this context is the greater commongood, as you seem to assert that "bad politicians" will be targets of this system and "benefit" the greater populace.

"THE group", as if there is only one

"The Group" in this context is those who participate in the AP system as you propose, mostly those with the greatest resources. In both examples, "The Group" becomes a tyranny of the few, and Marina's observations follow.

"AP, is a "State" (political definition)" Your opinion.

Govern: to regulate or direct. AP is a system of government. Do you dispute this ?

likening libertarianism to communism nonsense

Lol. Democracy: People should have a say. Totalitarianism: Do as I/We say at threat of death. Libertarianism (Socialism/Communism): People should have a say, at threat of death. It is the mere perception of freedom, as exemplified in Plato's Republic when discussing the "just" lie. The "freedom" of an individual to pay into an AP system is removed by the "freedom" of another to "kill" them for doing so, enslaving all participants, and (since proofs are difficult if not impossible to recover given you suggest public cryptography) all suspects, to group controlled behaviors.