Filling out captchas helps google train AI models
I just discovered that the reCaptchas that you usually bump into when using tor are not only a way to distinguish humans, but also they use your replies to train artificial intelligence modes https://www.google.com/recaptcha/intro/index.html#creation-of-value <https://www.google.com/recaptcha/intro/index.html> Tor users helping google with image recognition lol -- http://tornews3zbdhuan5.onion
On June 17, 2016 3:37:42 PM Mr Nobody <mrnobody@mail-on.us> wrote:
I just discovered that the reCaptchas that you usually bump into when using tor are not only a way to distinguish humans, but also they use your replies to train artificial intelligence modes
https://www.google.com/recaptcha/intro/index.html#creation-of-value <https://www.google.com/recaptcha/intro/index.html>
Tor users helping google with image recognition lol
It's been that way for many years... I'm surprised there is anyone left who didn't know that. (Not being a smartass. I think it was 5 or 6 years ago that 4chan had an admittedly poor-taste go at trying to poison the well there.) -S
On June 17, 2016 3:37:42 PM Mr Nobody <mrnobody@mail-on.us> wrote:
I just discovered that the reCaptchas that you usually bump into when using tor are not only a way to distinguish humans, but also they use your replies to train artificial intelligence modes
In case you or anyone else is interested in the evolution of recaptcha after google acquired it in 2009 - beginning with using us as free labor to digitize their books, to decoding street addresses for Google maps and on to the Match Game crap we have today: https://techcrunch.com/2012/03/29/google-now-using-recaptcha-to-decode-stree... http://www.blackhatworld.com/seo/something-interesting-ive-noticed-recently-... Warning for sensitive individuals: this image contains a racial slur. It was what /b/ called the attempt to screw with recaptcha, just including it for relevant reference (so don't send me hate mail): http://www.funnyjunk.com/funny_pictures/1019304/Operation/ So, yeah. We've known from the start that they were using recaptcha as free labor. -S
On Fri, Jun 17, 2016 at 10:29:17PM +0000, Mr Nobody wrote:
I just discovered that the reCaptchas that you usually bump into when using tor are not only a way to distinguish humans, but also they use your replies to train artificial intelligence modes
https://www.google.com/recaptcha/intro/index.html#creation-of-value <https://www.google.com/recaptcha/intro/index.html>
Tor users helping google with image recognition lol
When over tor, some captchas with distorted images are so weird, I am not sure solution exists at all... Is it possible this to be on purpose? Or should I try to pass the Turing test? :)
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On Fri, Jun 17, 2016 at 10:29:17PM +0000, Mr Nobody wrote:
I just discovered that the reCaptchas that you usually bump into when using tor are not only a way to distinguish humans, but also they use your replies to train artificial intelligence modes
https://www.google.com/recaptcha/intro/index.html#creation-of-value
<https://www.google.com/recaptcha/intro/index.html>
Tor users helping google with image recognition lol
When over tor, some captchas with distorted images are so weird, I am not sure solution exists at all...
Is it possible this to be on purpose?
I have run into sites where their 100% insoluble captchas were used to support the pretense of a "free" service option for non-subscribers. Apparently their SEO consultants* saw some benefit in annoying the hell out of users and discouraging them from believing that the sites in question work at all, paid account or not. Also, what better way for a centralized captcha provider to sabotage a website than to flag it to receive insoluble captchas? * I originally typed "crooked SEO consultants" but that is redundant. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJXdFgSAAoJEECU6c5XzmuqbYMH/AqYEC1imC5cQn37yNA0uDlC c3n872CZwVo9x/7VqIlYaoiVSXllNz9pXQxoZTfBisX4sAdP4KOicrNylSzQr9Pn 4/3ZVKF60F0HWRgX3Fqy6+4mcYXPd1OzoDYBIK2wcBEbRU8oNFFXgFQt5DV+VMED PU84QOiylOq3rryw+muuWp/h23UkMun2C+HSS8AZZ9MaWZu8HZU5CJQ14MH5+0ws 1AW8lFQffiLsojh46OBsYDGSkQqx1J1Sq6F40jUjrOVffEAAgNAGyxHfC3/x+mWs pGUslRwUMPaApz8+xwRxsaKdh1PG1RVlhT6I+AG+uFjeU6GYleGb77aZnKTgq00= =Zxpf -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
On Wed, Jun 29, 2016 at 07:21:54PM -0400, Steve Kinney wrote:
I have run into sites where their 100% insoluble captchas were used to support the pretense of a "free" service option for non-subscribers. Apparently their SEO consultants* saw some benefit in annoying the hell out of users and discouraging them from believing that the sites in question work at all, paid account or not.
From my experience, the less javascript you allow, the more insoluble
the captchas are. With all javascript + cookies the captchas are easy in general.
On Fri, Jun 17, 2016 at 10:29:17PM +0000, Mr Nobody wrote:
I just discovered that the reCaptchas that you usually bump into when using tor are not only a way to distinguish humans, but also they use your replies to train artificial intelligence modes
https://www.google.com/recaptcha/intro/index.html#creation-of-value <https://www.google.com/recaptcha/intro/index.html>
Tor users helping google with image recognition lol
There are lots of captcha libs out there that dont depend on or report back to google, e.g. secureimage (https://www.phpcaptcha.org/), I'm sure there are similar for node/js, python, etc.. -- John
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