https://lists.cpunks.org/mailman/listinfo/cypherpunks "the list is frequented...by spooks, trolls, and other sources of negative influence, surveillance or disruption. Sabotage, COINTELPRO and other forms of subversion or attack are often observed." I think that whoever wrote that, Greg? should also publish the list of government agents who engage in sabotage, COINTELPRO, etc. Whoever wrote that obviously knows who these 'actors' are, and there's no reason for him to protect them. I'll be waiting, as I think any other honest poster will.
On Sun, May 1, 2022, 9:49 PM punk <punks@tfwno.gf> wrote:
https://lists.cpunks.org/mailman/listinfo/cypherpunks
"the list is frequented...by spooks, trolls, and other sources of negative influence, surveillance or disruption. Sabotage, COINTELPRO and other forms of subversion or attack are often observed."
I think that whoever wrote that, Greg? should also publish the list of government agents who engage in sabotage, COINTELPRO, etc.
Whoever wrote that obviously knows who these 'actors' are, and there's no reason for him to protect them.
I'll be waiting, as I think any other honest poster will.
Reminds of before I forgot everything, seeing that quote. Things seemed much simpler on only one side. Would you like we started a list? Maybe we could start with properties of behavior, see if any cross-correlate with properties of spy orgs. Maybe scrape archives for helpful experience logs or something, if they're still there by the time they're downloaded. I could use my behavior properties being labeled and timestamped pretty badly.
I missed the earlier note yesterday: On Mon, May 02, 2022 at 03:45:49PM -0400, Karl Semich wrote:
On Sun, May 1, 2022, 9:49 PM punk <punks@tfwno.gf> wrote:
https://lists.cpunks.org/mailman/listinfo/cypherpunks
"the list is frequented...by spooks, trolls, and other sources of negative influence, surveillance or disruption. Sabotage, COINTELPRO and other forms of subversion or attack are often observed."
I think that whoever wrote that, Greg? should also publish the list of government agents who engage in sabotage, COINTELPRO, etc.
I didn't write that, someone else did. I don't know anything about who are the subscribers to the list. It's an open list, so there is no reason for government or whomever to approach me if they want to monitor the list.
Whoever wrote that obviously knows who these 'actors' are, and there's no reason for him to protect them.
I'll be waiting, as I think any other honest poster will.
Reminds of before I forgot everything, seeing that quote.
Things seemed much simpler on only one side.
Would you like we started a list? Maybe we could start with properties of behavior, see if any cross-correlate with properties of spy orgs. Maybe scrape archives for helpful experience logs or something, if they're still there by the time they're downloaded.
Raw data to facilitate analysis of writings by people who have posted to cypherpunks is easy enough - the full archive is freely available, and even the archive from before the list was in its current home. https://lists.cpunks.org Of course, that doesn't help with (a) lurkers, (b) remailers/redistributors, (c) people who don't subscribe, but watch the archives, and (d) any other surveillance to individual or collective list members. ~ Greg
I could use my behavior properties being labeled and timestamped pretty badly.
On Mon, 2 May 2022 15:03:06 -0700 Greg Newby <gbnewby@pglaf.org> wrote:
I missed the earlier note yesterday:
On Mon, May 02, 2022 at 03:45:49PM -0400, Karl Semich wrote:
On Sun, May 1, 2022, 9:49 PM punk <punks@tfwno.gf> wrote:
https://lists.cpunks.org/mailman/listinfo/cypherpunks
"the list is frequented...by spooks, trolls, and other sources of negative influence, surveillance or disruption. Sabotage, COINTELPRO and other forms of subversion or attack are often observed."
I think that whoever wrote that, Greg? should also publish the list of government agents who engage in sabotage, COINTELPRO, etc.
I didn't write that, someone else did.
I don't know anything about who are the subscribers to the list. It's an open list, so there is no reason for government or whomever to approach me if they want to monitor the list.
Oh I didn't mean anybody would necessarily approach you. My point is that given this fact : "Sabotage, COINTELPRO and other forms of subversion or attack are often observed." it should be easy to point to the observed examples.
this list does indeed still discuss things (occasionally) that used to not be classified or international secrets, such as cryptography or spooks.
On Tue, 3 May 2022 12:23:02 -0400
this list does indeed still discuss things (occasionally) that used to not be classified or international secrets, such as cryptography or spooks.
spooks like you - indeed the list is 99% spook spam, coming from turds like you, and all the rest. And now we have a new turd on floating on the cesspool! You can welcome your coworker 'God' something.
On Tue, May 3, 2022, 1:55 PM punk <punks@tfwno.gf> wrote:
On Tue, 3 May 2022 12:23:02 -0400
this list does indeed still discuss things (occasionally) that used to not be classified or international secrets, such as cryptography or spooks.
spooks like you - indeed the list is 99% spook spam, coming from turds like you, and all the rest. And now we have a new turd on floating on the cesspool! You can welcome your coworker 'God' something.
i'd prefer to blockchain or otherwise get a hash of archives like these into a pool of shared verified hashes before doing behavior analysis so take some time, get your behavior patterns to demonstrate what you want, etc
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