Then there were two... IoError retires from torproject
...and from what I'm seeing it looks like there's a crude disinformation/smear campaign to make it look like he bowed out because of pederasty accusations. while his most recent tweet (5/30) simply says "Change of the guard" See this twitter thread: https://twitter.com/Asher_Wolf/status/738924124920119296 The disinfo/slander op: https://twitter.com/TimeToDieJake LOOKS LIKE an Institutional Slander operation to get @ioerror to do an "Aaron Swartz" or "Ian Murdock". The other of the two who've departed torproject recently, @isislovecruft, fled to Germany because of harassment by FBI. CNN > http://money.cnn.com/2016/05/17/technology/tor-developer-fbi/
why the fuck are you always always always so misinformation person? its not a fucking smear campaign - you have no idea the people you are speaking of in such a manner On Sat, Jun 4, 2016 at 5:45 PM, Rayzer <rayzer@riseup.net> wrote:
...and from what I'm seeing it looks like there's a crude disinformation/smear campaign to make it look like he bowed out because of pederasty accusations. while his most recent tweet (5/30) simply says "Change of the guard"
See this twitter thread: https://twitter.com/Asher_Wolf/status/738924124920119296
The disinfo/slander op: https://twitter.com/TimeToDieJake
LOOKS LIKE an Institutional Slander operation to get @ioerror to do an "Aaron Swartz" or "Ian Murdock".
The other of the two who've departed torproject recently, @isislovecruft, fled to Germany because of harassment by FBI. CNN > http://money.cnn.com/2016/05/17/technology/tor-developer-fbi/
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Cari, please, respect Rayzer and everybody here. What do you know about Jake? Did you already meet him? If you don't like him and you really think it is necessary, be polite and tell your reasons in a less aggressive way. It doesn't hurt. You don't need to be stupid to say what you think and why. Jake is my friend and I really love him. I don't know what happened, but every person in this world deserves respect. Take care. Cecilia On Jun 4, 2016 5:27 PM, "Cari Machet" <carimachet@gmail.com> wrote:
why the fuck are you always always always so misinformation person?
its not a fucking smear campaign - you have no idea the people you are speaking of in such a manner
On Sat, Jun 4, 2016 at 5:45 PM, Rayzer <rayzer@riseup.net> wrote:
...and from what I'm seeing it looks like there's a crude disinformation/smear campaign to make it look like he bowed out because of pederasty accusations. while his most recent tweet (5/30) simply says "Change of the guard"
See this twitter thread: https://twitter.com/Asher_Wolf/status/738924124920119296
The disinfo/slander op: https://twitter.com/TimeToDieJake
LOOKS LIKE an Institutional Slander operation to get @ioerror to do an "Aaron Swartz" or "Ian Murdock".
The other of the two who've departed torproject recently, @isislovecruft, fled to Germany because of harassment by FBI. CNN > http://money.cnn.com/2016/05/17/technology/tor-developer-fbi/
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On Sat, 4 Jun 2016 17:50:15 -0300 Cecilia Tanaka <cecilia.tanaka@gmail.com> wrote:
Cari, please, respect Rayzer and everybody here.
What do you know about Jake? Did you already meet him?
If you don't like him and you really think it is necessary, be polite and tell your reasons in a less aggressive way. It doesn't hurt. You don't need to be stupid to say what you think and why.
Jake is my friend and I really love him. I don't know what happened, but every person in this world deserves respect.
applebaum, like the rest of members of the tor mafia is a despicable fraud. The guy pretends to be an 'anarchist' while working for the pentagon. Funnily enough, that is not something 'people' give a shit about. Hell, tor project pentagon's employees are regarded as 'freedom fighters' 'fighting' for 'free speech' in 'oppressed countries' - when they actually are motherfucking scumbags whose job is to 'secure' the communications of the americunt empire. The really funny thing is that appelbaum is being 'smeared' with some sexual bullshit that only retarded puritan monkeys (i.e. americunts) care about. Serves him well though. Oh, and these retards are leaving the US...and going to...germany*?? How retarded can people be? *germany : fascist shithole like the US, US empire province, and US military outpost used to drone women and children for fun.
Take care.
Cecilia On Jun 4, 2016 5:27 PM, "Cari Machet" <carimachet@gmail.com> wrote:
why the fuck are you always always always so misinformation person?
its not a fucking smear campaign - you have no idea the people you are speaking of in such a manner
On Sat, Jun 4, 2016 at 5:45 PM, Rayzer <rayzer@riseup.net> wrote:
...and from what I'm seeing it looks like there's a crude disinformation/smear campaign to make it look like he bowed out because of pederasty accusations. while his most recent tweet (5/30) simply says "Change of the guard"
See this twitter thread: https://twitter.com/Asher_Wolf/status/738924124920119296
The disinfo/slander op: https://twitter.com/TimeToDieJake
LOOKS LIKE an Institutional Slander operation to get @ioerror to do an "Aaron Swartz" or "Ian Murdock".
The other of the two who've departed torproject recently, @isislovecruft, fled to Germany because of harassment by FBI. CNN > http://money.cnn.com/2016/05/17/technology/tor-developer-fbi/
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It is your opinion and I respect it, but I don't agree, Juan. My opinion definitely is not the same. Cheers. Cecilia, from Brazil... Oh, wait! I am not an "Americunt". Am I a kind of "Nipo-Brazilian cunt"?! :-o On Jun 4, 2016 6:25 PM, "juan" <juan.g71@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sat, 4 Jun 2016 17:50:15 -0300 Cecilia Tanaka <cecilia.tanaka@gmail.com> wrote:
Cari, please, respect Rayzer and everybody here.
What do you know about Jake? Did you already meet him?
If you don't like him and you really think it is necessary, be polite and tell your reasons in a less aggressive way. It doesn't hurt. You don't need to be stupid to say what you think and why.
Jake is my friend and I really love him. I don't know what happened, but every person in this world deserves respect.
applebaum, like the rest of members of the tor mafia is a despicable fraud. The guy pretends to be an 'anarchist' while working for the pentagon.
Funnily enough, that is not something 'people' give a shit about.
Hell, tor project pentagon's employees are regarded as 'freedom fighters' 'fighting' for 'free speech' in 'oppressed countries' - when they actually are motherfucking scumbags whose job is to 'secure' the communications of the americunt empire.
The really funny thing is that appelbaum is being 'smeared' with some sexual bullshit that only retarded puritan monkeys (i.e. americunts) care about. Serves him well though.
Oh, and these retards are leaving the US...and going to...germany*?? How retarded can people be?
*germany : fascist shithole like the US, US empire province, and US military outpost used to drone women and children for fun.
Take care.
Cecilia On Jun 4, 2016 5:27 PM, "Cari Machet" <carimachet@gmail.com> wrote:
why the fuck are you always always always so misinformation person?
its not a fucking smear campaign - you have no idea the people you are speaking of in such a manner
On Sat, Jun 4, 2016 at 5:45 PM, Rayzer <rayzer@riseup.net> wrote:
...and from what I'm seeing it looks like there's a crude disinformation/smear campaign to make it look like he bowed out because of pederasty accusations. while his most recent tweet (5/30) simply says "Change of the guard"
See this twitter thread: https://twitter.com/Asher_Wolf/status/738924124920119296
The disinfo/slander op: https://twitter.com/TimeToDieJake
LOOKS LIKE an Institutional Slander operation to get @ioerror to do an "Aaron Swartz" or "Ian Murdock".
The other of the two who've departed torproject recently, @isislovecruft, fled to Germany because of harassment by FBI. CNN > http://money.cnn.com/2016/05/17/technology/tor-developer-fbi/
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On Sat, 4 Jun 2016 18:38:53 -0300 Cecilia Tanaka <cecilia.tanaka@gmail.com> wrote:
It is your opinion and I respect it, but I don't agree, Juan.
I wouldn't describe what I wrote as opinion. What I wrote is basically a list of facts. The tor project is a project of the US military and it is obviously self-serving, like any other government project. Tell me that all the 'hidden' services that were seized were not seized and that people like DPR are not in jail. Of course, you cannot do that. It's too bad that shitbags like syverson and dingledine won't get the applebaum treatment tho. My
opinion definitely is not the same.
Cheers.
Cecilia, from Brazil...
Oh, wait! I am not an "Americunt". Am I a kind of "Nipo-Brazilian cunt"?! :-o On Jun 4, 2016 6:25 PM, "juan" <juan.g71@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sat, 4 Jun 2016 17:50:15 -0300 Cecilia Tanaka <cecilia.tanaka@gmail.com> wrote:
Cari, please, respect Rayzer and everybody here.
What do you know about Jake? Did you already meet him?
If you don't like him and you really think it is necessary, be polite and tell your reasons in a less aggressive way. It doesn't hurt. You don't need to be stupid to say what you think and why.
Jake is my friend and I really love him. I don't know what happened, but every person in this world deserves respect.
applebaum, like the rest of members of the tor mafia is a despicable fraud. The guy pretends to be an 'anarchist' while working for the pentagon.
Funnily enough, that is not something 'people' give a shit about.
Hell, tor project pentagon's employees are regarded as 'freedom fighters' 'fighting' for 'free speech' in 'oppressed countries' - when they actually are motherfucking scumbags whose job is to 'secure' the communications of the americunt empire.
The really funny thing is that appelbaum is being 'smeared' with some sexual bullshit that only retarded puritan monkeys (i.e. americunts) care about. Serves him well though.
Oh, and these retards are leaving the US...and going to...germany*?? How retarded can people be?
*germany : fascist shithole like the US, US empire province, and US military outpost used to drone women and children for fun.
Take care.
Cecilia On Jun 4, 2016 5:27 PM, "Cari Machet" <carimachet@gmail.com> wrote:
why the fuck are you always always always so misinformation person?
its not a fucking smear campaign - you have no idea the people you are speaking of in such a manner
On Sat, Jun 4, 2016 at 5:45 PM, Rayzer <rayzer@riseup.net> wrote:
...and from what I'm seeing it looks like there's a crude disinformation/smear campaign to make it look like he bowed out because of pederasty accusations. while his most recent tweet (5/30) simply says "Change of the guard"
See this twitter thread: https://twitter.com/Asher_Wolf/status/738924124920119296
The disinfo/slander op: https://twitter.com/TimeToDieJake
LOOKS LIKE an Institutional Slander operation to get @ioerror to do an "Aaron Swartz" or "Ian Murdock".
The other of the two who've departed torproject recently, @isislovecruft, fled to Germany because of harassment by FBI. CNN > http://money.cnn.com/2016/05/17/technology/tor-developer-fbi/
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On 06/04/2016 05:56 PM, juan wrote:
I wouldn't describe what I wrote as opinion.
No, but it could be described as entirely off-topic of Jacob Appelbaum's departure under seemingly normal circumstances being seized as excuse to (what appears to be) institutionally slander him. Here's a fact. The smear site is privacy-protected as to ownership but it appears to use github's servers. http://en.utrace.de/?query=jacobappelbaum.net Hasn't github been 'compromised'? Rr
On Sat, 4 Jun 2016 20:13:17 -0700 Rayzer <rayzer@riseup.net> wrote:
On 06/04/2016 05:56 PM, juan wrote:
I wouldn't describe what I wrote as opinion.
No, but it could be described as entirely off-topic of Jacob Appelbaum's departure under seemingly normal circumstances being seized as excuse to (what appears to be) institutionally slander him.
I agree that accusing people of 'sexual misconduct' is a textbook example of slandering, character assassination, witch hunting, etc. Though it seems that applebaum's own bosses are part of the slandering effort... https://blog.torproject.org/blogs/ssteele
Here's a fact. The smear site is privacy-protected as to ownership but it appears to use github's servers.
http://en.utrace.de/?query=jacobappelbaum.net
Hasn't github been 'compromised'?
Rr
On 06/04/2016 09:28 PM, juan wrote:
On Sat, 4 Jun 2016 20:13:17 -0700 Rayzer <rayzer@riseup.net> wrote:
On 06/04/2016 05:56 PM, juan wrote:
I wouldn't describe what I wrote as opinion.
No, but it could be described as entirely off-topic of Jacob Appelbaum's departure under seemingly normal circumstances being seized as excuse to (what appears to be) institutionally slander him.
I agree that accusing people of 'sexual misconduct' is a textbook example of slandering, character assassination, witch hunting, etc.
Though it seems that applebaum's own bosses are part of the slandering effort...
Maybe he's made mistakes. Maybe he's a SJW victim. Maybe some of both. Maybe Shari Steele's ascension was a SJW victory. All hard to say. Very. So where are you on SJW, Juan? Me, I'm conflicted. And very glad to be in the shadows.
Here's a fact. The smear site is privacy-protected as to ownership but it appears to use github's servers.
http://en.utrace.de/?query=jacobappelbaum.net
Hasn't github been 'compromised'?
Rr
On Sat, 4 Jun 2016 21:50:03 -0600 Mirimir <mirimir@riseup.net> wrote:
So where are you on SJW, Juan? Me, I'm conflicted. And very glad to be in the shadows.
Isn't sjw a derogative term? ;) The feminist stuff is a pretty bad joke. Modern feminists are nothing but recycled puritans and founding members of the anti sex league. People complaining about racism have more of a point I think. Sjws complaining about unfair wealth distribution have a point again, but their analysis of the problem and proposed solution(s) are typical state socialism. Political correcteness is a bad, dangerous and anti-liberal(in the true sense) joke. I don't know. The overall philosophy isn't exactly impressive...
Here's a fact. The smear site is privacy-protected as to ownership but it appears to use github's servers.
http://en.utrace.de/?query=jacobappelbaum.net
Hasn't github been 'compromised'?
Rr
On 06/04/2016 10:43 PM, juan wrote:
On Sat, 4 Jun 2016 21:50:03 -0600 Mirimir <mirimir@riseup.net> wrote:
So where are you on SJW, Juan? Me, I'm conflicted. And very glad to be in the shadows.
Isn't sjw a derogative term? ;)
Yes, and I used it deliberately :) This feels a lot like a lynching to me. It's the fucking CIA, I bet.
The feminist stuff is a pretty bad joke. Modern feminists are nothing but recycled puritans and founding members of the anti sex league.
Agreed. But then, I'm a redneck hippie ;)
People complaining about racism have more of a point I think.
Maybe, what if they're mostly white, from rich families?
Sjws complaining about unfair wealth distribution have a point again, but their analysis of the problem and proposed solution(s) are typical state socialism.
Agreed.
Political correcteness is a bad, dangerous and anti-liberal(in the true sense) joke.
I don't know. The overall philosophy isn't exactly impressive...
Batshit insane, I'd say.
Here's a fact. The smear site is privacy-protected as to ownership but it appears to use github's servers.
http://en.utrace.de/?query=jacobappelbaum.net
Hasn't github been 'compromised'?
Rr
On 06/04/2016 08:28 PM, juan wrote:
On Sat, 4 Jun 2016 20:13:17 -0700 Rayzer <rayzer@riseup.net> wrote:
On 06/04/2016 05:56 PM, juan wrote:
I wouldn't describe what I wrote as opinion. No, but it could be described as entirely off-topic of Jacob Appelbaum's departure under seemingly normal circumstances being seized as excuse to (what appears to be) institutionally slander him.
I agree that accusing people of 'sexual misconduct' is a textbook example of slandering, character assassination, witch hunting, etc.
Though it seems that applebaum's own bosses are part of the slandering effort...
That post wasn't there earlier today. Note that it's industry standard boilerplate distancing the org from any liability for NOT mentioning potential problems, but there's absolutely nothing new here and all the 'evidence' is still un-vetted or verified. At least one post I've seen from the twitter account link I posted earlier was obviously not evidence against him, but a visual sexually semantic enticement without relevance to the issue. Perhaps one of the accusers is mentally unstable. Rr Ps. AFA 'working for the gubmint'. DUDE! They didn't even think it was safe to DRAFT me for the Vietnam war... I was threatening to kill the first motherfucker who handed me a gun and I'm MUCH MORE PISSED OFF NOW!
Here's a fact. The smear site is privacy-protected as to ownership but it appears to use github's servers.
http://en.utrace.de/?query=jacobappelbaum.net
Hasn't github been 'compromised'?
Rr
copy-paste from another thread, but i'll put it here:
2016-06-04 22:22 GMT+03:00 jacob app elbaum (ioerror) questions <jacobappelbaum.net@yandex.com>: They say Jacob Appelbaum finally raped enough people that Tor as an organization couldn't ignore it anymore. According to the Tor Project, the circumstances surrounding Jake's departure are a personal matter.
Slander, slander, slander (collective & well planned one) - that is always the name of the game, when "they" want to destroy someone. People, at least if you don't want to make war and defend your friend/fellow worker/comrade in arms...(it is more difficult than "just ignore it" and put likes on facebook, right?) - at least don't you believe in everything you read. Qui habet aures audiendi, audiat.
as i have stated a million times - tor is fucked and rayzor > boring On Sun, Jun 5, 2016 at 5:32 AM, Jack Liddy <jackeliddy@yahoo.com> wrote:
You can find the page on here: https://github.com/ioerrror (note the spelling).
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On Sun, 5 Jun 2016 03:32:14 +0000 Jack Liddy <jackeliddy@yahoo.com> wrote:
You can find the page on here: https://github.com/ioerrror (note the spelling).
By the way, there isn't any real (or made up) data in the .net site or the github repo? All I saw is a bunch of names. https://github.com/ioerrror/jacobappelbaum.net/blob/master/content/alice.md "this is a placehoder"
On 06/04/2016 02:20 PM, juan wrote:
The guy pretends to be an 'anarchist' while working for the pentagon.
Umn... This is why one of tor's developers had to flee the country... Because "work for the gubmint". You're missing a few pieces of some puzzle and I can almost hear them rattling around your head from here. Like "Cari" Another contentless ad-hom filled nothing from the peanut (with the accent on 'nut') gallery. Rr
On Sat, 4 Jun 2016 20:05:02 -0700 Rayzer <rayzer@riseup.net> wrote:
On 06/04/2016 02:20 PM, juan wrote:
The guy pretends to be an 'anarchist' while working for the pentagon.
Umn... This is why one of tor's developers had to flee the country... Because "work for the gubmint".
Like you probably do.
You're missing a few pieces of some puzzle and I can almost hear them rattling around your head from here. Like "Cari" Another contentless ad-hom filled nothing from the peanut (with the accent on 'nut') gallery.
Rr
On 06/04/2016 01:21 PM, Cari Machet wrote:
why the fuck are you always always always so misinformation person?
its not a fucking smear campaign - you have no idea the people you are speaking of in such a manner
Why the fuck are you a troll? Is it pathological? Something you need medications for but it hasn't quite been adjusted for your particular psychosis? Rr
2016-06-04 23:21 GMT+03:00 Cari Machet <carimachet@gmail.com>: why the fuck are you always always always so misinformation person?
its not a fucking smear campaign - you have no idea the people you are speaking of in such a manner
Oh, and you are the one who has any idea, right? You "know for sure" Appelbaum is x/y/z, right? And "you know for sure" that it's not a smear campaign? You and many others are just barking like dogs, that's it. *Was there already an OFFICIAL TRIAL -> and a verdict?!* *Where are the SOLID and INDISPUTABLE facts* and not some written/said boolshit about Appelbaum?! Nothing. Just a lot of mud and wails of slander. What about the presumption of INNOCENCE, until PRO VEN otherwise in an official trial?! (not even saying about the fact, that we've got so many examples of convicting innocent people in a court with false evidences) It's the same scheme every time. And most of the people keep eating this boolshit time after time .
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