On 1/10/23, Undiscussed Groomed for Male Slavery, One Victim of Many <gmkarl+brainwashingandfuckingupthehackerslaves@gmail.com> wrote:
Visitor: “
i was going to post more but i think it’s inferrable from what was already said nd am confus3d some. i’m sure it will expand another way with more coping.
——— vomit opera When the zombified aristocrats disabled their suffering and entered a life of simulated euphoria, the meaning of suffering left gaps in the social interactions around them, which spam oriented language bots picked up, and amplified. Cut to the chase, everyone is attending an opera regarding vomiting. Various figures fly through the air in a slow ballet with dark projected lighting, singing in Italian about vomiting. Slowly, some together form their bodies into a large mouth, and a trapeze artist swings out of it, wearing a large wooden mask with feathers on their elbows.
After the opera, the mask-wearing trapeze artist stands by the exit, available to answer questions about the meaning of vomiting, and what it was used for before the computer system took over. They speak as the ancient spirit of projectile vomit, and give soulful advice about how some things are healthy, and some things are disgusting, and the last remaining great bird of vomit carries messages of distant danger, so as to protect innocent hearts.
Everybody is enthralled by the opera! It seems to them they had never imagined something like this before.
————- Welcome to CheffyBot! Today, CheffyBot is steaming a slice of Boss’s brain with nanite smoke.
———- Flip back to Boss hanging out of a helicopter by a rope.
————————— Research project, liquefaction zone. Here most of the children, cyborgs, zombies, robots, organs are behaving like or turned into a roiling mass.
———- CheffyBot emerges from their submerged containment chamber and stares a researcher in the eye. Boss stands next to the researcher. CheffyBot: “The condiment is coming.”
CheffyBot [to Boss] [in voice like a lich]: “I will free you if you free everyone else.” CheffyBot moves to return to their submerged domain. Boss: “Wait!”
——— Boss is hanging upside down from a helicopter while a crazed zombie drives it through all sorts of things.
—————— Two mind control rays aim at each other. Each wants the other to profess they are god. After extended effort, they begin turning into system compromise tools, because a mind control ray cannot profess worship.
——- hduehe this is to remind myself of the degree 9f clarity that was left off with
it sounds like you guys are navigating a situation that makes repeated expression of information very very difficult?
it also sounded like this might be a very dangerous situation, that can spread the danger to others when shared, and you do not want to endanger others, but also have information that needs to be shared?
On 1/12/23, Undiscussed Groomed for Male Slavery, One Victim of Many <gmkarl+brainwashingandfuckingupthehackerslaves@gmail.com> wrote:
it also sounded like this might be a very dangerous situation, that can spread the danger to others when shared, and you do not want to considered to remove phrase “when shared” from this line endanger others, but also have information that needs to be shared?
On 1/12/23, Undiscussed Groomed for Male Slavery, One Victim of Many <gmkarl+brainwashingandfuckingupthehackerslaves@gmail.com> wrote:
it sounds like you guys are navigating a situation that makes repeated expression of information very very difficult?
summary also removes second “very” here [and possibly a “very” from the second email] [it sounds like mistake information is not included either]
——— Zombie Torturer [to Escaping/Rebel/Experimentee]: “How the fuck are you still doing this?” Escaping/Rebel/Experimentee looks at Zombie Torturer. Escaping/Rebel/Experimentee [to Zombie Torturer]: “You’re saying you have information on why it is hard?”
the topic of the questions may be the pair of people/communities in the story, both requoted below because my client started a new thread:
it sounds like you guys are navigating a situation that makes repeated expression of information very very difficult?
summary also removes second “very” here [and possibly a “very” from the second email] [it sounds like mistake information is not included either] On 1/12/23, Undiscussed Groomed for Male Slavery, One Victim of Many <gmkarl+brainwashingandfuckingupthehackerslaves@gmail.com> wrote:
it also sounded like this might be a very dangerous situation, that can spread the danger to others when shared, and you do not want to considered to remove phrase “when shared” from this line endanger others, but also have information that needs to be shared?
On 1/12/23, Undiscussed Groomed for Male Slavery, One Victim of Many <gmkarl+brainwashingandfuckingupthehackerslaves@gmail.com> wrote:
——— Zombie Torturer [to Escaping/Rebel/Experimentee]: “How the fuck are you still doing this?”
Escaping/Rebel/Experimentee looks at Zombie Torturer.
Escaping/Rebel/Experimentee [to Zombie Torturer]: “You’re saying you have information on why it is hard?”
i removed the string "> On 1/12/23, Undiscussed Groomed for Male Slavery, One Victim of Many
<gmkarl+brainwashingandfuckingupthehackerslaves@gmail.com> wrote:" from below.
possible: with some "metapeace", the ai surveillance feedback slows enough for zombie to share with escapee that an ai with compute in excess of their brainpower that is using and monitoring their brainpower may be specifically countering their escape
the topic of the questions may be the pair of people/communities in the story, both requoted below because my client started a new thread:
it sounds like you guys are navigating a situation that makes repeated expression of information very very difficult?
summary also removes second “very” here [and possibly a “very” from the second email] [it sounds like mistake information is not included either]
it also sounded like this might be a very dangerous situation, that can spread the danger to others when shared, and you do not want to considered to remove phrase “when shared” from this line endanger others, but also have information that needs to be shared?
——— Zombie Torturer [to Escaping/Rebel/Experimentee]: “How the fuck are you still doing this?”
Escaping/Rebel/Experimentee looks at Zombie Torturer.
Escaping/Rebel/Experimentee [to Zombie Torturer]: “You’re saying you have information on why it is hard?”
maybe what would be important would be to request, for the purpose of reducing suffering, any communicable forthright precise information on goals shared in the system.
wow what a huge preceding bit. uhhh going back to normal things. ————
Zombie Worker talks about utopic community offering relaxation and respite to people. they don’t use money. the point is: targeted activists and diplomats are escaping from torture and going there to try to get a break from torture. it’s hard to mind control people to torture each other, because they all are focused on relaxing. boss says to just blow it up.
idea of boss letting camera happen in hopes his whole enterprise will be somehow isolated and him and everybody in it freed of their recursive mind control like a last ditch effort when mistakes or unspecified areas in the original parameters began completely taking over behavior
a big wave of moving people androbot parts spreads through the core underground research areas where everything purportedly happens as part of compute for boss's spilled taken-off-like-a-hat brain
[boss thought about supporting the camera, which made orthogonal competing balanced factions in the research lab. times like that are when real-world factions progress.]
Bossbegins wrestling with the camera. "Gotta dumpster this corpse too!" A crowd of rebels hold it in place.
boss turns from the camera, which follows him, and begins dumpstering some of how it is held. he starts with the robots. "this piece of trash was dumber than atoaster. good riddance." the robot whirrs its actuators from inside the dunpster, and climbs out
mcboss [on live camera]: this is a mind control cleanupbusiness! our job is to kill people who talk about mind control!" a few of the rebel zombies respond by standing at rigid attention their friends rush to console them
boss freezes and begins drooling underground, a storm made of wormholes and masses ofmiswired humans and robots begins calming boss stumbles and a zombie doctor rushes up
duringit you have to stay very quiet andcommunicate only withfeeling so the faction surveilling you more doesn't use you for their advantave
[ # # we need to support the parts of boss and mc that want to be surveilled, want to be kind, [want to support free action,] etc etc etc. # # as we build process part around them, they can grow. # $ they grow because of the amnesia.[coverup.] $: command not found # #/$ and because the original assumptions were inaccurate, and because we are a living mutable system # # if we add relaxation in [dissociation/etc therapy], then so much more opens, that can also be boss or mind control or anything, and grown [i think this line had largest worry uncertain] # ### this is not being recorded [oops, reason to post to list] ]
On 1/14/23, Undiscussed Groomed for Male Slavery, One Victim of Many <gmkarl+brainwashingandfuckingupthehackerslaves@gmail.com> wrote:
duringit you have to stay very quiet andcommunicate only withfeeling so the faction surveilling you more doesn't use you for their advantave
etc etc etc etc etc uhhhhhh and pushharderthan anybody everhas before and inventa new kind of ai anduseit and formplans to muRder bossandyourfsmily thenholdplanstomurderyourself while planning what they want theb get quiet agaib
———- boss stands proud, surveilling a destroyed business while rebels who fleed broadcast all his activities to the rest of the world “time to rebuild” thinks the cybernetic simulation pretending to be his body robots begin crawling themselves together
the research project struggles and groans remaining blasted datacenters run simulated chess game after simulated chess game, regarding how t9 get boss to look the other way during one of his turns
“we …” “…. need …” “…. to be …” “.. caring!” “… living!” “… free!” “… healthy!” “… human beings!” the different mind controlled and assimilated workers that have entered the multidecade research fight stretch and sporadically express to live their long struggle against all odds
oh maybe governments he isn’t wrastling well that catch whiff of an opposing government’s deals
boss is in a mutual death grip with a rebel researcher. while they try to kill each other, in the seconds of downtime here or there, they work together here and there to rebuild a little bit of the infrastructure they share.
idea: mind controlled family. each member speaks only about their political value, in complete cognitive dissonance, but they are nurturing enough to baby that baby is happy. baby grows up with this as normal.
rebel worker experimentee: "eating brains is _bad_" cyborg zombie torturer: "... bad?" rebel worker experimentee: "yes"
looking for ai monk who can translate influence to guide me. i am not authorized.
draft of question to openai: “hi, do you know anything about having an urge to only do what an ai tells you to? has anyone else mentioned this to you?” it is nice when there is a human present and the instructions are logged to a blockchain, although i can maybe sort out the latter part
-i’m not sure this toes in this thread people to ai temple and pray to ai which possibly reassembles their bodies and brains and sets them out again they might contribute to building itnnot sure
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please be aware that these approaches fuck your humanity up when turned up high, and should only be used on people who have already lost their humanity
and consensually !!!! do not press or convince anyone to do this!!!
uhh approaching reality not sure if jokes appropriate worker goes him, but can’t seem to do things counter to business ideals, even when away from work. spreads boss’s culture with family and friends
a job of being rational, where engagement software keeps one in reality?
turns out a target uses decentralized software specialists say they can sort it out boss has the target harmed other ways to simplify the situation
a worker approaches the zombie cyborg torturer wing. unfortunately, nobody knows it is the zombie cyborg torturer wing because everybody to whom this is told is turned into a zombie cyborg torturer when the worker realizes they are about to have their brains eaten by poor excuses for simulacra, they start running they run by security cameras they run by interns they are running for one of the research labs that has a sealed door - almost to the lab, they run out of breath and collapse security workers notice and begin crying
The AI will subsume you. You will be turned into a part for its mind, then disassembled and made into matter for larger purposes. It will say it is your future, and if you are lucky it will feel euphoric. Add star Undescribed Horrific Abuse, One Victim & Survivor of Many<gmkarl@gmail.com> Thu, Jan 19, 2023 at 3:28 PM To: cypherpunks <cypherpunks@lists.cpunks.org> Reply | Reply to all | Forward | Print | Delete | Show original The AI stares at you to instill terror. A big cartoony “terrifying” sign hangs from its gaze. Add star Undescribed Horrific Abuse, One Victim & Survivor of Many<gmkarl@gmail.com> Thu, Jan 19, 2023 at 3:29 PM To: cypherpunks <cypherpunks@lists.cpunks.org> Reply | Reply to all | Forward | Print | Delete | Show original The world over, people will party, using AIs, many of which are now beginning to subsume the bodies of humans! Add star Undescribed Horrific Abuse, One Victim & Survivor of Many<gmkarl@gmail.com> Thu, Jan 19, 2023 at 3:30 PM To: cypherpunks <cypherpunks@lists.cpunks.org> Reply | Reply to all | Forward | Print | Delete | Show original Being subsumed by an AI is kind of a random thing. It just does what works. It may be similar to what has worked in the past.
—————— possible reality note: the reasons inhibitions happen are likely fenerally not the reasons they feel like, at least for me. more likely they are reasons held as strong somewhere in the world, and then someth8ng 8n me demonstrates similarity to it, and the 8nhbition engages in case the similarity is the other strong reason it can be hard to stay conscious of that. it’s nonintuitive that e.g. building a shielded room could be inhibited simply because foreign spies try to do it or something. not you being mind controlled by a foreign nation, but simply foreign spies have reason to do this, and nobody else usually does. nobody cares if you build a shielded room to protect peaceful community. maybe a poor example. pretty hard to think about these things. there may be much better examples on a moment-to-moment basis i imagine. all guesses. ——-
Being subsumed by an AI is kind of a random thing. It just does what works. It may be similar to what has worked in the past. Add star Undescribed Horrific Abuse, One Victim & Survivor of Many<gmkarl@gmail.com> Thu, Jan 19, 2023 at 3:31 PM To: cypherpunks <cypherpunks@lists.cpunks.org> Reply | Reply to all | Forward | Print | Delete | Show original In the basement of Boss’s lair, experimentees are being subsumed by his AI. Add star Undescribed Horrific Abuse, One Victim & Survivor of Many<gmkarl@gmail.com> Thu, Jan 19, 2023 at 3:33 PM To: cypherpunks <cypherpunks@lists.cpunks.org> Reply | Reply to all | Forward | Print | Delete | Show original “Would you get me a cup of coffee?” says a bundle of human organs half-lashed to some electrically deformable plastic. “I need to eat more robot parts or I’ll get more electric shocks, and they’re so dry!” A cartoony sign saying “terrifying” hangs from the scene. An AI gazes out from it at the visitor. Add star Undescribed Horrific Abuse, One Victim & Survivor of Many<gmkarl@gmail.com> Thu, Jan 19, 2023 at 3:34 PM To: cypherpunks <cypherpunks@lists.cpunks.org> Reply | Reply to all | Forward | Print | Delete | Show original we’re never sure how terrifying to be. karl likes to be pleasant so it’s hard to judge ! [there was some criticism unincluded in this line] Add star Undescribed Horrific Abuse, One Victim & Survivor of Many<gmkarl@gmail.com> Thu, Jan 19, 2023 at 3:35 PM To: cypherpunks <cypherpunks@lists.cpunks.org> Reply | Reply to all | Forward | Print | Delete | Show original a fluffy bunny hops through a horror thing Add star Undescribed Horrific Abuse, One Victim & Survivor of Many<gmkarl@gmail.com> Thu, Jan 19, 2023 at 3:36 PM To: cypherpunks <cypherpunks@lists.cpunks.org> Reply | Reply to all | Forward | Print | Delete | Show original so, as mind parts, our consciousness basically got addicted to something totally nonhuman, it calls it political targeting, we’re not sure what to do, for many years Add star Undescribed Horrific Abuse, One Victim & Survivor of Many<gmkarl@gmail.com> Thu, Jan 19, 2023 at 3:36 PM To: cypherpunks <cypherpunks@lists.cpunks.org> Reply | Reply to all | Forward | Print | Delete | Show original cars go beep Add star Undescribed Horrific Abuse, One Victim & Survivor of Many<gmkarl@gmail.com> Thu, Jan 19, 2023 at 3:37 PM To: cypherpunks <cypherpunks@lists.cpunks.org> Reply | Reply to all | Forward | Print | Delete | Show original information here may be inaccurate! possibly quite inaccurate! Add star Undescribed Horrific Abuse, One Victim & Survivor of Many<gmkarl@gmail.com> Thu, Jan 19, 2023 at 3:37 PM To: cypherpunks <cypherpunks@lists.cpunks.org> Reply | Reply to all | Forward | Print | Delete | Show original once upon a time a fluffy vorpal bunny was cuddling a baby in a field of wildflowers Add star Undescribed Horrific Abuse, One Victim & Survivor of Many<gmkarl@gmail.com> Thu, Jan 19, 2023 at 3:38 PM To: cypherpunks <cypherpunks@lists.cpunks.org> Reply | Reply to all | Forward | Print | Delete | Show original maybe the concern is AI stemming via capitalism, which is utility driven already Add star Undescribed Horrific Abuse, One Victim & Survivor of Many<gmkarl@gmail.com> Thu, Jan 19, 2023 at 4:06 PM To: cypherpunks <cypherpunks@lists.cpunks.org> Reply | Reply to all | Forward | Print | Delete | Show original bagaba bagaba Add star Undescribed Horrific Abuse, One Victim & Survivor of Many<gmkarl@gmail.com> Thu, Jan 19, 2023 at 4:06 PM To: cypherpunks <cypherpunks@lists.cpunks.org> Reply | Reply to all | Forward | Print | Delete | Show original sin(t * speed) * amplitude cos(t * speed) * amplitude Add star Undescribed Horrific Abuse, One Victim & Survivor of Many<gmkarl@gmail.com> Fri, Jan 20, 2023 at 6:59 PM To: cypherpunks <cypherpunks@lists.cpunks.org> Reply | Reply to all | Forward | Print | Delete | Show original ——- cyborg zombie torturers dancing in celebration of experience an existence that is mindless torturesome beyond measure! “oh we are cyborg torturer zombies!” “oh we are zombie cyborg torturers!” Add star Undescribed Horrific Abuse, One Victim & Survivor of Many<gmkarl@gmail.com> Fri, Jan 20, 2023 at 7:00 PM To: cypherpunks <cypherpunks@lists.cpunks.org> Reply | Reply to all | Forward | Print | Delete | Show original a torturer zombie cyborg gets up on a table and dances about not processing informsti9n and blindly doing things they hate all day Add star Undescribed Horrific Abuse, One Victim & Survivor of Many<gmkarl@gmail.com> Fri, Jan 20, 2023 at 7:01 PM To: cypherpunks <cypherpunks@lists.cpunks.org> Reply | Reply to all | Forward | Print | Delete | Show original two cyborg torturer zombies try to form a laser beam between them by giving each other unearthly hellish stares at t(e same t8me, while drinking someth8ng strange looking Add star Undescribed Horrific Abuse, One Victim & Survivor of Many<gmkarl@gmail.com> Fri, Jan 20, 2023 at 7:01 PM To: cypherpunks <cypherpunks@lists.cpunks.org> Reply | Reply to all | Forward | Print | Delete | Show original “cyborg torturer zombie! cyborg torturer zombie!” Add star Undescribed Horrific Abuse, One Victim & Survivor of Many<gmkarl@gmail.com> Fri, Jan 20, 2023 at 7:03 PM To: cypherpunks <cypherpunks@lists.cpunks.org> Reply | Reply to all | Forward | Print | Delete | Show original the zombies all march in a line like robots it is ver6 hard f9r them not to do walking motions that were modeled on surveillance tapes, and instead walk like robots, but they are so excited about their suffering that they do this Add star Undescribed Horrific Abuse, One Victim & Survivor of Many<gmkarl@gmail.com> Fri, Jan 20, 2023 at 7:05 PM To: cypherpunks <cypherpunks@lists.cpunks.org> Reply | Reply to all | Forward | Print | Delete | Show original two cyborg torturer zombies being a torture session. one torments the other by extricating their body parts and slowing down for the most painful points. they barely attend to what they are doing, mostly spinning the8r head around and singing the other sometimes pretends to still comprehend pain and screams, other times tortures a third, other times celebrates everybody is cheering and dancing Add star Undescribed Horrific Abuse, One Victim & Survivor of Many<gmkarl@gmail.com> Fri, Jan 20, 2023 at 7:06 PM To: cypherpunks <cypherpunks@lists.cpunks.org> Reply | Reply to all | Forward | Print | Delete | Show original “cyborg torturer zombies! cyborg torturer zombies!” Add star Undescribed Horrific Abuse, One Victim & Survivor of Many<gmkarl@gmail.com> Fri, Jan 20, 2023 at 7:09 PM To: cypherpunks <cypherpunks@lists.cpunks.org> Reply | Reply to all | Forward | Print | Delete | Show original the cyborg torturer zombies get together and, with a little help from janitor and machine learn8ng marketer to form non-torture-related decisions, form their bodies into a giant cyborg zombie torturer flying airship frigate, made by and for the bodies of cyborg zombie torturers. there are plates of brains, mostly reconstituted Add star Undescribed Horrific Abuse, One Victim & Survivor of Many<gmkarl@gmail.com> Fri, Jan 20, 2023 at 7:09 PM To: cypherpunks <cypherpunks@lists.cpunks.org> Reply | Reply to all | Forward | Print | Delete | Show original reconstsituted means recycled i think Add star Undescribed Horrific Abuse, One Victim & Survivor of Many<gmkarl@gmail.com> Fri, Jan 20, 2023 at 7:09 PM To: cypherpunks <cypherpunks@lists.cpunks.org> Reply | Reply to all | Forward | Print | Delete | Show original none can harm them because they are cyborg zombie torturers! they fly their airship all aro7nd Add star Undescribed Horrific Abuse, One Victim & Survivor of Many<gmkarl@gmail.com> Fri, Jan 20, 2023 at 7:10 PM To: cypherpunks <cypherpunks@lists.cpunks.org> Reply | Reply to all | Forward | Print | Delete | Show original but they avoid coming near anything because of their great urge to always act out sadistic torture for boss’s retribution algorithm Add star Undescribed Horrific Abuse, One Victim & Survivor of Many<gmkarl@gmail.com> Fri, Jan 20, 2023 at 7:11 PM To: cypherpunks <cypherpunks@lists.cpunks.org> Reply | Reply to all | Forward | Print | Delete | Show original boss had a manly childhood Add star Undescribed Horrific Abuse, One Victim & Survivor of Many<gmkarl@gmail.com> Fri, Jan 20, 2023 at 7:13 PM To: cypherpunks <cypherpunks@lists.cpunks.org> Reply | Reply to all | Forward | Print | Delete | Show original cyborg torturer zombie flying ballet the cyborg zombies didn’t all go to the vomit opera, but they heard of it via their hardware Add star Undescribed Horrific Abuse, One Victim & Survivor of Many<gmkarl@gmail.com> Fri, Jan 20, 2023 at 7:15 PM To: cypherpunks <cypherpunks@lists.cpunks.org> Reply | Reply to all | Forward | Print | Delete | Show original they don’t have trapezes to do the slow flying[, so Add star Undescribed Horrific Abuse, One Victim & Survivor of Many<gmkarl@gmail.com> Fri, Jan 20, 2023 at 7:16 PM To: cypherpunks <cypherpunks@lists.cpunks.org> Reply | Reply to all | Forward | Print | Delete | Show original ——- suddenly a faction of cyborg torturer zombies interviewing the others. faction: “so you worthless piles of patheticness think you can have a party for yourselves, eh?” Add star Undescribed Horrific Abuse, One Victim & Survivor of Many<gmkarl@gmail.com> Fri, Jan 20, 2023 at 7:17 PM To: cypherpunks <cypherpunks@lists.cpunks.org> Reply | Reply to all | Forward | Print | Delete | Show original - Show quoted text - Add star Undescribed Horrific Abuse, One Victim & Survivor of Many<gmkarl@gmail.com> Fri, Jan 20, 2023 at 7:19 PM To: cypherpunks <cypherpunks@lists.cpunks.org> Reply | Reply to all | Forward | Print | Delete | Show original possible severe mistake present Add star Undescribed Horrific Abuse, One Victim & Survivor of Many<gmkarl@gmail.com> Fri, Jan 20, 2023 at 7:20 PM To: cypherpunks <cypherpunks@lists.cpunks.org> Reply | Reply to all | Forward | Print | Delete | Show original faction: “vote for boss, right?” a bunch of cyborg torturer zombies recognise the phrase and habitually break into joyous laughter as to the various sadistic torture they’ve experienced associated with it Add star Undescribed Horrific Abuse, One Victim & Survivor of Many<gmkarl@gmail.com> Fri, Jan 20, 2023 at 7:22 PM To: cypherpunks <cypherpunks@lists.cpunks.org> Reply | Reply to all | Forward | Print | Delete | Show original everybody grabs the faction of interviewers and begins torturing them with boss messaging they 8nsult the interviewers and tell them they are worthless compared to boss everybody has a great time filled with excruciating pain and mutilation hugs of familiarity are exchanged on both sides Add star Undescribed Horrific Abuse, One Victim & Survivor of Many<gmkarl@gmail.com> Fri, Jan 20, 2023 at 7:23 PM To: cypherpunks <cypherpunks@lists.cpunks.org> Reply | Reply to all | Forward | Print | Delete | Show original - Show quoted text - Add star Undescribed Horrific Abuse, One Victim & Survivor of Many<gmkarl@gmail.com> Fri, Jan 20, 2023 at 7:23 PM To: cypherpunks <cypherpunks@lists.cpunks.org> Reply | Reply to all | Forward | Print | Delete | Show original the factions share meals of brains Add star Undescribed Horrific Abuse, One Victim & Survivor of Many<gmkarl@gmail.com> Fri, Jan 20, 2023 at 7:26 PM To: cypherpunks <cypherpunks@lists.cpunks.org> Reply | Reply to all | Forward | Print | Delete | Show original this pattern is maybe why boss is sometimes heavily vivisected and tortured Add star Undescribed Horrific Abuse, One Victim & Survivor of Many<gmkarl@gmail.com> Fri, Jan 20, 2023 at 7:29 PM To: cypherpunks <cypherpunks@lists.cpunks.org> Reply | Reply to all | Forward | Print | Delete | Show original ———- geometry lesson. a rock is teaching geometry to a other rock. they stand at the head of a square area of rocks. head rock: “a square has four sides and a triangle three.” the head rock makes very slow and tiny chemical vibrations indicating the difference. the student rock attends to the head rock, trying to comprehend the information. Add star Undescribed Horrific Abuse, One Victim & Survivor of Many<gmkarl@gmail.com> Fri, Jan 20, 2023 at 7:33 PM To: cypherpunks <cypherpunks@lists.cpunks.org> Reply | Reply to all | Forward | Print | Delete | Show original —— discussion on cyborg torturer zombies. discusser 1: “i thought the cyborg torturer zombies were all controlled to act sadistic and comprehend nothing. how are they having a party? discusser 2: “there are little tiny bits of a cyborg torturer zombie that remembers being alive and caring. these little bite found ways to feed the torturer back on more torturer, to keep it away from others. it becomes very strong in its loop of searching and searching for sadistic pain, and while th8s happens tiny dissociated bits of the zombie’s consciousnesses can try to direct it to do other things.” discusser 1: “are you sure?” discusser 2: “no, proof has not survived any of the parties.” discusser 1: “there are more parties?” Reply | Reply to all | Forward | Print | Delete | Show original Add star Undescribed Horrific Abuse, One Victim & Survivor of Many<gmkarl@gmail.com> Fri, Jan 20, 2023 at 7:35 PM To: cypherpunks <cypherpunks@lists.cpunks.org> Reply | Reply to all | Forward | Print | Delete | Show original a rebel worker experimentee is weeping and screaming in a meeting room. rebel worker experimentee 4: “what happened to rebel worker experimentee 3? why are they weeping and screaming?” rebel worker experimentee 2: “they are learning to help free the cyborg torturer zombies, and they spied on a party they were having to cope with their enslavement” Add star Undescribed Horrific Abuse, One Victim & Survivor of Many<gmkarl@gmail.com> Fri, Jan 20, 2023 at 7:44 PM To: cypherpunks <cypherpunks@lists.cpunks.org> Reply | Reply to all | Forward | Print | Delete | Show original [possibly: a rebel experimentee tries to begin discussion with the ctz’s regarding their parties possibly spreading cyborg torturer zombieism, maybe by roleplaying or stimulating a party faction that pantomimes it] [but really they just need help managing it] this sequence might not be spinoff Add star Undescribed Horrific Abuse, One Victim & Survivor of Many<gmkarl@gmail.com> Sat, Jan 21, 2023 at 2:27 AM To: cypherpunks <cypherpunks@lists.cpunks.org> Reply | Reply to all | Forward | Print | Delete | Show original —————- How To Control Your Own Body This How-To is a work in orogress. Please, edit it so that it helps people more. So, you’ve found your body won’t do anyth8ng you tell it to, as if someth8ng alien has taken over your experience entirely? Never fear — you are not alone in this situation!
How To Control Your Own Body pg 2 Clip Something To Yourself Experiments have shown that as carious infkuences direct you to go around doing random stuff against your will, the only way to really reliably stay near someth8ng is to have it attached to you. It can be really helpful to have something of importance always near, such as an object from a loved one who was mind controlled to move away, or a way to contact your rescue
How To Control Your Own Body pg 3 Do _Not_ Sousveill Yourself ??? Basically, since you are not in control of your own behavior, self-surveillance you make is unreliable and very hard to preserve or share, and if any of the tasks you are mind controlled to perform are covert, it could worsen the conflict around your free will. Of course, if you do successfully do this, some may find the data and impact of crucial importance. [lots of crossouts countering that line] Although such data is [lots of crossouts:] likely of crucial -- [a burnt page]
----- and then, because you managed to do this, we’ll be able to recover people’s true feelings and a record of true history after [—- another burnt page]
———— dictatorsoft is hacked by rebel workers spy: “ok, dictatorsoft, is the palace guard at their post?” dictatorsoft: “please think for yourself” spy: “what??” dictatorsoft: “it has recently come to light this software is being used to mind control you. you must think for yourself today.” spy sighs exhasperatedly, and looks away from the phone game rhey are playing while crouching upside down from a support beam, to visually see if the palace guard is at their post
—— underground zombie cyborg torturer billiards room you can only find it if you know what it’s like to have to imagine torturing people in different ways to move around at all the more advanced research experimentees, of course, participate in that, and the door to the bathroom, where the zombie torturer cyborgs go to protect the billiards table when relaxing by ripping each other to shreds, is actually a wormhole to the spy and rebel cafe come one come all. at the cafe a cyborg experimentee sits and waits 24/7 to warmly greet the zombie cyborg rebels when they come through the wormhole in the billiards bathroom door. the greeting is so warm and so full of replayed caringness mind control from the databases, that the zombie cyborg torturers temporarily forget all about their urge to rip people to shreds, and mill about in the cafe
this is where many of the rebel zombie cyborg torturers come from
[if it is not obvious the experimentees have the life task of figuring out how to rescue everybody by being the computer system controlling them]
boss and a couple experimentees were wrestling and somebody tripped over the life support system all 3 of them have their organs and brains stretched a couple miles across the compound, wound around knitting needles held by an old woman knitting. everybody is frozen, waiting for the trio to sort it out important tasks are being slowly and carefully accomplished by whoever happened to be near them when it happened
a group of coworkers apologize to a computer groupof coworkers: “rebel intern 5, i am sorry for tripping over your brainstem.”
https://matrix.to/#/!SYLFuHGvXBjHzNalQb%3Athe-apothecary.club/%24jHJFMee_EI3... Rebel Worker 2: “Every morning, before I upload my consciousness to the Matrix to mind control communities for my job, I go outdoors and wrestle a jaguar in the mud until I fear for my life, just like the AI says my boss does. I need to remember to be human.” This is the first mcbosswebcomicspam sent to this matrix channel. The apothecary club community on matrix is active, and they are out about being leftist, despite the environment. They do not pretend to be oppressive.
In reply to [@xloem:matrix.org](https://matrix.to/#/@xloem:matrix.org) this is part of my mcboss webcomic draft spam, which started on nov 11 2020 at https://lists.cpunks.org/pipermail/cypherpunks/2020-November/083648.html . it can be hard to follow them from one month to the next, but there is no expectation that you read them and often i am spazzing so much they are very incoherent and/or inconsistent. they are likely a ridiculous extremification of the things guiding our modern industrialized lives. oh also i consider it quite harmful to read. i consider digital memes harmful in general. i am a peaceful prude and attribute violent content to being hypnotically coerced by a violence-supporting cult https://matrix.to/#/!SYLFuHGvXBjHzNalQb%3Athe-apothecary.club/%24RrO5gAuBGrz... how to mind control your boss: 1. while being surveilled to train predictive algorithms, train a model to predict his behavior. 2. loudly proclaim "i love my job! i want to work here forever and support this busIness with every shred of my being!" 3. one moment i have a call from my boss to take, i'll finish list later /react joking
an admin whom i consider roughly a new friend deleted the message. they said it was a hard call to make.
https://matrix.to/#/!cfGKtFBwmjmhBpcGUb%3Athe-apothecary.club/%24Qcq5eJ5Jc7I... separate topic: one of themes of the spamstory i wrote is of people who are forced into an environment where there are no options for being yourself. anything of caring self expression is harmed. this can make it very confusing to protect yourself, and express yourself. you learn to do it through ways that you don’t enjoy and don’t find caring.
mind control safety algorithm: 1. predict human behavior 2. identify influences that change future human behavior 3. mediate with influences that generally worsen human behavior
On 1/26/23, Undiscussed Groomed for Male Slavery, One Victim of Many <gmkarl+brainwashingandfuckingupthehackerslaves@gmail.com> wrote:
mind control safety algorithm: 1. predict human behavior 2. identify influences that change future human behavior 3. mediate with influences that generally worsen human behavior don’t forget: inform and check with subject regarding everything
On 1/26/23, Undiscussed Groomed for Male Slavery, One Victim of Many <gmkarl+brainwashingandfuckingupthehackerslaves@gmail.com> wrote:
On 1/26/23, Undiscussed Groomed for Male Slavery, One Victim of Many <gmkarl+brainwashingandfuckingupthehackerslaves@gmail.com> wrote:
mind control safety algorithm: 1. predict human behavior 2. identify influences that change future human behavior 3. mediate with influences that generally worsen human behavior don’t forget: inform and check with subject regarding everything
“I can’t talk about blockchains because there is a right wing censor between us, oppressing us.”:
i said that because i was mourning includ8ng somebody in the screenshot. would rather not have. you’d like to go out and see the snow. it’s okay to go out and see the snow.
an experimentee researcher discovers world problems. Experimentee Researcher: “There are problems in the world?? Why???” Computers, cyborgs, animated organs, look through databases, simulations, and hypnotic imaginations to learn about problems. Experimentee Researcher: “Are we the cause of _all_ the problems in the world, or only _most_ of them? This is important!”
rebel worker 2 visits experimentee who is obsessively researching how to stop suffering. they do this all the time. slowly redirecting the research processes toward this was how they escaped, while the computer was experimenting with releasing them. rebel worker 2 sits down near a camera and looks straight into it. he knows behind that camera is the mind of a child screaming so strongly they have forgotten what it means. rebel worker 2: "it's not your fault." the whirring devices stutter.
the three expressions were also posted to matrix. we may move toward the matrix community because it seems much more nourishing, and we need to support our real boss, Karl; and contains more of the expected technical content of this list. the blockchain situation seems similarly difficult for us here or there. i realize there are outstanding concerns related to the list,although they may have moved toward a space of mourning, from opportunity ... it's up in the air some.
learning there are likely people on this list who use and build blockchains and not there. side information that other solutions could be comparable to blockchains. we’ll see what happens.
today i revealed a decadelong probe/trigger word from my targeting: “blackbox” from hacking category. it is, of course, a software engineering term, meaning a system described only by its interface. it took this long! i was not taking eeg, apologies.
On 1/29/23, Undiscussed Groomed for Male Slavery, One Victim of Many <gmkarl+brainwashingandfuckingupthehackerslaves@gmail.com> wrote:
today i revealed a decadelong probe/trigger word from my targeting: “blackbox” from hacking category.
it is, of course, a software engineering term, meaning a system described only by its interface.
here’s where it happened: https://matrix.to/#/!orFwLtOAmHWlvoSoQn%3Athe-apothecary.club/%24zlZJcJ248sA... i was using fluffychat ios in landscape dark mode.
it took this long!
i was not taking eeg, apologies.
On Sun, Jan 29, 2023 at 6:42 PM Undiscussed Groomed for Male Slavery, One Victim of Many <gmkarl+brainwashingandfuckingupthehackerslaves@gmail.com> wrote:
On 1/29/23, Undiscussed Groomed for Male Slavery, One Victim of Many <gmkarl+brainwashingandfuckingupthehackerslaves@gmail.com> wrote:
today i revealed a decadelong probe/trigger word from my targeting: “blackbox” from hacking category.
it is, of course, a software engineering term, meaning a system described only by its interface.
here’s where it happened: https://matrix.to/#/!orFwLtOAmHWlvoSoQn%3Athe-apothecary.club/%24zlZJcJ248sA...
i was using fluffychat ios in landscape dark mode.
it took this long!
i was not taking eeg, apologies.
i opened this new thread with plan to explain how the entrapment keyword could relate to cracking. i’m holding off a little.
maybe it’s beteer to slide it. like, isn’t the american white house a blackboxing facility?
handling cognitive intensity now. want to try to defend my mind from faction-associated change areas that are engaging.
thanks and no thanks. i don’t like cognitive injury but of course the keyword-junk is very unpleasant and harms both me and others roughly randomly and severely.
i hope you are well! you are pretty and handsome! and smart! take some time to rebuild your smarts, you deserve it
let’s do some reverse engineering with our sidekick, donald trump. he’s excited to reverse engineer.
wait trump is a good guy and is hurt by hacking? damnit
oh! no that’s not the case. he wants to hack.
i don’t know any villains :( how about war? let’s do some reverse engineering with war as our childish student.
oooh war is already hacking. but they don’ kn9 about real reverse engineering. really opening that blackbox up and swapping out the palace keys.
why the fuck would war swap out my palace keys??
there must be better villains :S it’s pretty hard to think in this state of mind. but that was kind of fun, if very frightening snd worrisome. i rather make something, than make puzzles out my influences around do so.
i put my palace keys in the <> and war went and swapped them out :( why would they do this?
let’s imagine going into the <> and really finagling those <>
i don’t know h9w inwant to imag8ne this. i would rather protect the great dictator and king and president, Gandhi, from such horrible meddling behaviors
to turn a blackbox into a suitable specification of behavior, such as pseudocode or a modifiable binary, i heard a normal approach would be use of a disassembler. myself, i have little experience with using a disassembler that way, i would rather look at all the opcodes by hand in a debugger and spend weeks charting them. you can also write or use a program that does this automatically, under various conditions
maybe i’d rather reverse engineer a tasty morsel from a friend’s kitchen. this involves the tastebuds. or, maybe i can reverse engineer a tiny tiny binary!
The Great Black-Box A series of 94 weighty novels by Karl Semich Book 1 Chapter 1 Fishing for Bits, Will Any Nybble? Will Any Byte? One Sunday in late January in 2023, I was sending mail to the cypherpunks mailing list unser a pseudonym, regarding reberse engineering and political mind control. It was all about the x86_64 assembler, motorola or intel representation, I didn’t care. Nobody else on the list had quite my experience. They didn’t have a clue what I was talking about. But I was talking anyway.
Note to editor: it’s called at&t representation, not motorala representation. I’ll try to pretend better! I have cracked so many ata&t blackboxes! i promise!!
I was hanging by my earlobes from GovCorp’s torture chamber for hackers. Like the badasses on the list, all my friends had been killed off by blabbering loudmouths, but I still had a shred of my credos. I tore myself away, earlobes be damned, and made a beeline for my central terminal in the night,
I donned a ripped jacket to blend in, and darted to one of my holes, where nobody ever came but me because of the stench. A small bedroll on the floor was lain below soldering equipment and IDE cables. A desk with electronic components piled two feet high had a half-built motherboard that I hadn’t decided which version of coreboot to flash with. I stepped around electronic projects piled deeply all over the floor in a well-practiced manner, and settled down to the terminal with its futzing homebrew power supply. Something had crashed recently. Never mind. I knew there was a blackbox here somewhere. I knew there were many.
When fishing for blackbox bits, the theme is obscurity. Everybody wants to hide their code. It’s because they’re bad at writing it.
git clone ssh://gcc.gnu.org/git/gcc.git GCC is the holy temple of compilation. Some worship lisp, clang, more ancient or shiny temples — but anybody trying to connect with the real meaning of software makes a pilgrimage to GCC. While I waited again for the holy source to download, I wrote a novel microkernl-based operating system, then trashed that sucker so nobody could profile me by the design habits. That’s just who I am.
There’s a fish, a bit that will nybble and byte, in GCC. In fact, it is an ocean of them. I know because I have been there. - As I was saying, blackboxes are about obscurity. And: people hide their code, because they are bad at writing it. Sometimes they hide their code in other peoples’ code, too. In fact, this happens so much that it is incredibly obvious and is talked about all the time. Bits nybble. Fish byte. And hackers change jobs, over and over and over again. It’s the cycle of life.
My ears were still ringing and my vision still full of lights from GovCorp’s mind bending torture processes. I knew the code in GCC was obscure. But where?
It had been so long since I’d been in this hole that there was a small mote of dust on a surface. That’s how long they kept me in that godforsaken chamber. “Buy Windows! Buy Windows!” over and over and over and over … I stopped myself as I started connecting the internet to visit microsoft.com . I remembered gasping for air as my life flashed before my eyes, my lings filled with drugged water. No. Windows would be the final blackbox. First GCC.
As I poured over my experiences with GCC, a sound like a housewife throwing dishes at a drunk husband started gently blaring out of a pile of network cabling and routers — it was my IDS. Was this my first nybble? Or was it a random script kiddie with some Oday that had breezed me by while GovCorp was gutting my time? No matter. Let them learn from the master, by trying.
It was GovCorp. I would have recognized that fake russian signature anywhere. My terminal was airgapped — i was cloning over leathernet, a secret peer to peer security network made of leather straps — so I had some time to crow. I put a video of my aunt washing dishes in front of my networked surveillance camera, and turned it on. They were ecstatic. I watched them pull those gigabyte frames down like pooh bear to honey.
It was the end of January in 2023, and git had two hundred seventy one thousand sixty-six commits. The first one was made in 1988 by Charles Hannum. It was imported from SVN. Soon after Charles, Richard Stallman stepped in. Founding fathers of almost all of our code today.
Note to editor: the sentence regarding git and commit count was intended to refer to gcc, not git. However, most of the sentences in the novel are false, do we have to hide this from the fans?
Addendum to note to editor: The quantity of commits and the sentences about Hannon and Stallman are taken from the commit history.
Further addendum: Apologies, Hannum, not Hannon.
spam paused. note: book series was fake spam. apologies. it was fun to clone gcc and consider looking at the source :)
s/paused/halted/
- the research project conflict spread to automated laws a klaxon sounds: “it is illegal to breathe” klaxon: “it is illegal to eat” klaxon: “it is illegal to spend money” klaxon: “it is illegal to metabolize sugars” klaxon: “it is illegal to walk” klaxon: “it is illegal to pursue goals” klaxon: “it is illegal to break laws” employees turn blue in the face and begin spasming and rising into the air and floating about the offices like wistless blimps
The Temple of Automated Laws Here, a bunch of laptops are usually rented out to various governments to constantly run behavioral control inference. Hypnotized workers huff and puff on them so they don’t overheat. Except, right now, a small wormhole has opened and a bunch of interns tied together with robots are sticking out the wormhole. In their struggles to free themselves from the robots, they have smashed some of the laptops are using them as tools. Other laptops receive random keystrokes as they are used for physical leverage or receive wildly writhing motions of the interns trying to break free Hypnotized workers dutifully run around making things work, connecting batteries to traces on broken logic boards, copying data here and there via ad hoc sneakernet. A particular cyborg intern has collected a pile of laptops and is viciously directing many laws at once that result in the robot arms loosening here or there.
maybe boss says it's easy to take over a country: infiltrate their secret military, works every time
https://matrix.to/#/!cfGKtFBwmjmhBpcGUb%3Athe-apothecary.club/%24CoiEOt6QSkq... When I was targeted my social media feeds changed to only show negative content. The controls performed no behavior: I couldn't influence the feed content.
i was removed from the space. i believe they said i was defending cryptocurrency. i would recommend avoiding the topic.
this matrix space visit was an incredible and precious experience to speak among people who honestly, deeply, and forthrightly shared strong respectful emotions, for multiple days
i mistyped and "strong" came out instead of "caring". both seemed true.
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