Swartz, Weev & radical libertarian lexicon (Re: Jacob Appelbaum in Germany - Aaron Swartz)
From: rysiek <rysiek@hackerspace.pl> To: cypherpunks@cpunks.org Sent: Tuesday, January 7, 2014 10:51 AM Subject: Re: Swartz, Weev & radical libertarian lexicon (Re: Jacob Appelbaum in Germany - Aaron Swartz) Dnia wtorek, 7 stycznia 2014 19:36:44 Cari Machet pisze:
umn i just met u at #30c3 i know who u r so... aaahhh memories... names .... ppl... buses ... berlin... i was making a little joke and calling u poland sorry i happen to love poland generally so i like to talk about it i guess
AAAAHH! Now I got all the puzzles in my view. OHAI, CARI. :) /me facepalms hard/
how do you conclude that aaron was not "hacking" PLEASE EXPLAIN ???????
Well... There are two ways the word "hacking" is used most often. 1. breaking into computer systems and generally doing some computery-evil stuff 2. doing some amazing technical things
When I arrived at MIT in 1976, I learned that the term "hacker" meant ONLY the second definition above. (I believe the term originated at the TMRC (Tech Model Railroad Club in the 1950's; that fact is probably in Wikipedia) There was no hint of illegality, nor was the term in any way limited to computer activities. I would have been called a "chemistry hacker" or an "electronics hacker" at that point. I (and many, many other people, no doubt) were peeved that the first definition above came into vogue. The term "cracker" constituted an attempt to limit the misuse of "hacker". Jim Bell
Dnia wtorek, 7 stycznia 2014 14:10:05 Jim Bell pisze:
When I arrived at MIT in 1976, I learned that the term "hacker" meant ONLY the second definition above. (I believe the term originated at the TMRC (Tech Model Railroad Club in the 1950's; that fact is probably in Wikipedia) There was no hint of illegality, nor was the term in any way limited to computer activities. I would have been called a "chemistry hacker" or an "electronics hacker" at that point.
Thanks for that first-hand experience information.
I (and many, many other people, no doubt) were peeved that the first definition above came into vogue. The term "cracker" constituted an attempt to limit the misuse of "hacker".
...just as "hacktivist" was a later attempt at devising a "clean" term for hacking, that would not have the negative connotations. As we already know, both attempts failed, unfortunately. Hence my opinion that we should try to reclaim the term "hacker" (and "hacking", etc.) and get it to mean what it originally meant. -- Pozdr rysiek
When I arrived at MIT in 1976, I learned that the term "hacker" meant ONLY the second definition above. (I believe the term originated at the TMRC (Tech Model Railroad Club in the 1950's; that fact is probably in Wikipedia) There was no hint of illegality, nor was the term in any way limited to computer activities. I would have been called a "chemistry hacker" or an "electronics hacker" at that point.
Yes to TMRC. And never forget S. Levy's book (*) --dan (*) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hackers:_Heroes_of_the_Computer_Revolution
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