Taint Review Team
Docs via MuckRock show internal DEA training manuals instructing for parallel construction based on classified / illegally obtained information, combined with an internal review board to shield that information from the public courts. https://www.muckrock.com/news/archives/2014/feb/03/dea-parallel-construction... "Americans don't like it!" R
From: Rich Jones <rich@openwatch.net>
Docs via MuckRock show internal DEA training manuals instructing for parallel construction based on classified / illegally obtained information, >combined with an internal review board to shield that information from the public courts. https://www.muckrock.com/news/archives/2014/feb/03/dea-parallel-construction... "Americans don't like it!"
It appears that these agencies are trying to teach their staff a way to commit a crime, let's call it "obstruction of justice". In any criminal prosecution, the defense is entitled to receive various kinds of information, see 'Brady material',http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brady_v._Maryland . My understanding is that the government is required to disclose to the defendant (and his attorney) any potentially exculpatory information. This could include the method and manner the government obtained the evidence in question. Similar is 'Jencks material', http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jencks_v._United_States , and 'Giglio material', http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giglio_v._United_States The purpose of obstructing access to the source of the information is to prevent the defense from identifying and questioning the validity of the information, and to prevent the defense from impeaching witnesses who may otherwise want to remain anonymous. The prosecution may want to hide behind their putative ignorance of the information, because it is in the hands of some government agency, but I believe that the prosecution is required to investigate and determine such contacts even if they weren't initially aware of them. The problem is that the prosecution doesn't actually do that, in many cases. If the defense learns of the possible true source of that information, they can demand that the material be provided, but if they don't get a relevant disclosure, they might not even know what to ask. Jim Bell
On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 2:26 PM, jim bell <jamesdbell9@yahoo.com> wrote:
... It appears that these agencies are trying to teach their staff a way to commit a crime, let's call it "obstruction of justice".
hey now, your "crime" is my mistrial and dismissal with prejudice! don't knock it till you've tried it. ;)
"Any agency that is above the law [such as CIA] can get away with anything. It's sad, and most people don't know it, or care, but it's true,” the source says. “When they invoke national security, everyone just craps their pants, even judges." Above is from Narco News, check it Rich, Narco news follows all the crap the DEA does, now my question is can we vector the muckrock training mans' to another leak maybe located in cryptome- in order to obtain the code name for HOW the spooks tip-off LEA's to get into court only to reverse engineer (parallel construct) evidence to cover source methods. Its something to do w/ traffic stops? _Mg mag_foto / blacksetstudio.com On Feb 4, 2014, at 3:04 PM, Rich Jones <rich@openwatch.net> wrote:
Docs via MuckRock show internal DEA training manuals instructing for parallel construction based on classified / illegally obtained information, combined with an internal review board to shield that information from the public courts.
https://www.muckrock.com/news/archives/2014/feb/03/dea-parallel-construction...
"Americans don't like it!"
R
Yeah, it does have to do directly with traffic stops. Check out p180 of the PDF (279 is the number in the document). They even put "traffic stop" in quotes. [image: Inline image 1] And I'm guessing that the B7E redacted word <http://i.imgur.com/R9UjhTZ.png>is "bullshit." Essentially, they have constructed an intelligence laundering system. DEA agent asks the spooks<http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/08/05/us-dea-sod-idUSBRE97409R20130805>for intel on an operation, spook uses illegal surveillance to find out intel, spook tells a paid informant, informant anonymously tells DEA agent, DEA agents get local law enforcement to make a "traffic" stop to create a parallel construction, then in the court case none of the original intelligence is used. All perfectly "legal." Since the prosecution is legally required to hand over any information is has which might exonerate a defendant, such as evidence harvested from the "poisonous tree," the Taint Review Board is used as an intermediary to make sure that nobody on the prosecution has any idea where the poison came from. There are a bunch of other gems in here too. p324: True or False, Is racial profiling okay? Answer: [[ Redacted. b(7)(E) ]] R On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 8:29 AM, MARK GORE <mag_foto@mac.com> wrote:
"Any agency that is above the law [such as CIA] can get away with anything. It's sad, and most people don't know it, or care, but it's true," the source says. "When they invoke national security, everyone just craps their pants, even judges."
Above is from Narco News, check it Rich, Narco news follows all the crap the DEA does, now my question is can we vector the muckrock training mans' to another leak maybe located in cryptome- in order to obtain the code name for HOW the spooks tip-off LEA's to get into court only to reverse engineer (parallel construct) evidence to cover source methods. Its something to do w/ traffic stops? _Mg
mag_foto / blacksetstudio.com
On Feb 4, 2014, at 3:04 PM, Rich Jones <rich@openwatch.net> wrote:
Docs via MuckRock show internal DEA training manuals instructing for parallel construction based on classified / illegally obtained information, combined with an internal review board to shield that information from the public courts.
https://www.muckrock.com/news/archives/2014/feb/03/dea-parallel-construction...
"Americans don't like it!"
R
"(b)(7)(E)" seems like a cite to a section of a document or regulation, not a retraction: Section b, subsection 7, paragraph E. It is a relative cite URI, with base URI (document ID) implied here. Stephen On 2/6/14, 10:08 AM, Rich Jones wrote:
Yeah, it does have to do directly with traffic stops. Check out p180 of the PDF (279 is the number in the document). They even put "traffic stop" in quotes.
Inline image 1 And I'm guessing that the B7E redacted word <http://i.imgur.com/R9UjhTZ.png>is "bullshit."
Essentially, they have constructed an intelligence laundering system. DEA agent asks the spooks <http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/08/05/us-dea-sod-idUSBRE97409R20130805> for intel on an operation, spook uses illegal surveillance to find out intel, spook tells a paid informant, informant anonymously tells DEA agent, DEA agents get local law enforcement to make a "traffic" stop to create a parallel construction, then in the court case none of the original intelligence is used. All perfectly "legal." Since the prosecution is legally required to hand over any information is has which might exonerate a defendant, such as evidence harvested from the "poisonous tree," the Taint Review Board is used as an intermediary to make sure that nobody on the prosecution has any idea where the poison came from.
There are a bunch of other gems in here too. p324: True or False, Is racial profiling okay? Answer: [[ Redacted. b(7)(E) ]]
R
On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 8:29 AM, MARK GORE <mag_foto@mac.com <mailto:mag_foto@mac.com>> wrote:
"Any agency that is above the law [such as CIA] can get away with anything. It's sad, and most people don't know it, or care, but it's true," the source says. "When they invoke national security, everyone just craps their pants, even judges."
Above is from Narco News, check it Rich, Narco news follows all the crap the DEA does, now my question is can we vector the muckrock training mans' to another leak maybe located in cryptome- in order to obtain the code name for HOW the spooks tip-off LEA's to get into court only to reverse engineer (parallel construct) evidence to cover source methods. Its something to do w/ traffic stops? _Mg
mag_foto / blacksetstudio.com <http://blacksetstudio.com>
On Feb 4, 2014, at 3:04 PM, Rich Jones <rich@openwatch.net <mailto:rich@openwatch.net>> wrote:
Docs via MuckRock show internal DEA training manuals instructing for parallel construction based on classified / illegally obtained information, combined with an internal review board to shield that information from the public courts.
https://www.muckrock.com/news/archives/2014/feb/03/dea-parallel-construction...
"Americans don't like it!"
R
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It's a reference to the FOIA law itself. 7E is the exemption saying they don't have to talk about police tactics, basically, and that's why that information was redacted. Exemption 7(E) affords protection to all law enforcement information that "would disclose techniques and procedures for law enforcement investigations or prosecutions, or would disclose guidelines for law enforcement investigations or prosecutions if such disclosure could reasonably be expected to risk circumvention of the law." http://www.justice.gov/oip/exemption7e.htm R On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 11:08 AM, Stephen D. Williams <sdw@lig.net> wrote:
"(b)(7)(E)" seems like a cite to a section of a document or regulation, not a retraction: Section b, subsection 7, paragraph E. It is a relative cite URI, with base URI (document ID) implied here.
Stephen
On 2/6/14, 10:08 AM, Rich Jones wrote:
Yeah, it does have to do directly with traffic stops. Check out p180 of the PDF (279 is the number in the document). They even put "traffic stop" in quotes.
[image: Inline image 1] And I'm guessing that the B7E redacted word <http://i.imgur.com/R9UjhTZ.png>is "bullshit."
Essentially, they have constructed an intelligence laundering system. DEA agent asks the spooks<http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/08/05/us-dea-sod-idUSBRE97409R20130805>for intel on an operation, spook uses illegal surveillance to find out intel, spook tells a paid informant, informant anonymously tells DEA agent, DEA agents get local law enforcement to make a "traffic" stop to create a parallel construction, then in the court case none of the original intelligence is used. All perfectly "legal." Since the prosecution is legally required to hand over any information is has which might exonerate a defendant, such as evidence harvested from the "poisonous tree," the Taint Review Board is used as an intermediary to make sure that nobody on the prosecution has any idea where the poison came from.
There are a bunch of other gems in here too. p324: True or False, Is racial profiling okay? Answer: [[ Redacted. b(7)(E) ]]
R
On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 8:29 AM, MARK GORE <mag_foto@mac.com> wrote:
"Any agency that is above the law [such as CIA] can get away with anything. It's sad, and most people don't know it, or care, but it's true," the source says. "When they invoke national security, everyone just craps their pants, even judges."
Above is from Narco News, check it Rich, Narco news follows all the crap the DEA does, now my question is can we vector the muckrock training mans' to another leak maybe located in cryptome- in order to obtain the code name for HOW the spooks tip-off LEA's to get into court only to reverse engineer (parallel construct) evidence to cover source methods. Its something to do w/ traffic stops? _Mg
mag_foto / blacksetstudio.com
On Feb 4, 2014, at 3:04 PM, Rich Jones <rich@openwatch.net> wrote:
Docs via MuckRock show internal DEA training manuals instructing for parallel construction based on classified / illegally obtained information, combined with an internal review board to shield that information from the public courts.
https://www.muckrock.com/news/archives/2014/feb/03/dea-parallel-construction...
"Americans don't like it!"
R
-- Stephen D. Williams sdw@lig.net stephendwilliams@gmail.com LinkedIn: http://sdw.st/in V:650-450-UNIX (8649) V:866.SDW.UNIX V:703.371.9362 F:703.995.0407AIM:sdw Skype:StephenDWilliams Yahoo:sdwlignet Resume: http://sdw.st/gres Personal: http://sdw.st facebook.com/sdwlig twitter.com/scienteer
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