Elsevier tries to Swartz Sci-Hub
torrentfreak sits behind cloudflare :( On 27 June 2015 22:43:43 BST, grarpamp <grarpamp@gmail.com> wrote:
http://torrentfreak.com/sci-hub-tears-down-academias-illegal-copyright-paywa... http://www.sci-hub.club/
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On 6/27/15, oshwm <oshwm@openmailbox.org> wrote:
torrentfreak sits behind cloudflare :(
another reason to go FULL ONION but this does make me wonder about https://peertech.org/whatnext and if onion sites are up next in the squeeze...
On Sat, Jun 27, 2015 at 8:43 PM, coderman <coderman@gmail.com> wrote:
- i expect all onions, all the time, eventually :) another reason to go FULL ONION
I'd be hesitant to suggest that "onion (tor)" is the best choice of darknet (that in which any clearnet exit feature of same is not used), nor the best to come. However sure, any of todays legit darknets are more attractive than clearnet for many purposes. Darknets are now powerful spaces for generally unobservable communication and collaboration. In particular they seem unobservable to corporations and all lesser entities. [Darknets have not yet proven to be unobservable to the largest passive / active capable governments, of which a few exist. The academic vulnerabilities are documented. There's an active arms race. And a wait for proof.] Physical and other abuse / crime against individual humans seems to not be resulting in any legislative bans of darknet / crypto tech. Meta level things such as crimethink and active markets don't seem to be vulnerable either. Filesharing is an interesting proposition in that, unlike the physical and meta, it offends another class of opponent, the corporation. (Be it of traditional copyright consumer multimedia, or of corporate secrets). So the next real test may be when the filesharers move onto the darknets. Will the corporations expend resources to observe or legislate them, or will they give up?
""" "Thanks to Elsevier's lawsuit, I got past the point of no return. At this time I either have to prove we have the full right to do this or risk being executed like other `pirates'," she says, naming Aaron Swartz as an example.
"If Elsevier manages to shut down our projects or force them into the darknet, that will demonstrate an important idea: that the public does not have the right to knowledge. We have to win over Elsevier and other publishers and show that what these commercial companies are doing is fundamentally wrong." """
The tools and stands to be tested, both on clearnet and on darknets, are interesting, important, and necessary. Many are moving into the darknets today, yet it will take another decade or so to know the outcome.
On 06/27/2015 05:43 PM, coderman wrote:
On 6/27/15, oshwm <oshwm@openmailbox.org> wrote:
torrentfreak sits behind cloudflare :( another reason to go FULL ONION
but this does make me wonder about https://peertech.org/whatnext and if onion sites are up next in the squeeze...
Cloudflare HAS interest in logging tor. If you log into hushmail via tor the security notice you get (please verify yourself) is served by Cloudflare Screenshot and blurb, Tumblr: http://auntieimperial.tumblr.com/post/111007562804
On 06/27/2015 03:50 PM, oshwm wrote:
torrentfreak sits behind cloudflare :(
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On 27 June 2015 22:43:43 BST, grarpamp <grarpamp@gmail.com> wrote:
http://torrentfreak.com/sci-hub-tears-down-academias-illegal-copyright-paywa... http://www.sci-hub.club/
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On 6/27/15, grarpamp <grarpamp@gmail.com> wrote:
http://torrentfreak.com/sci-hub-tears-down-academias-illegal-copyright-paywa... http://www.sci-hub.club/
""" “Thanks to Elsevier’s lawsuit, I got past the point of no return. At this time I either have to prove we have the full right to do this or risk being executed like other ‘pirates’,” she says, naming Aaron Swartz as an example. “If Elsevier manages to shut down our projects or force them into the darknet, that will demonstrate an important idea: that the public does not have the right to knowledge. We have to win over Elsevier and other publishers and show that what these commercial companies are doing is fundamentally wrong.” """ - i expect all onions, all the time, eventually :)
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