Re: Meet ?badBIOS, ? the mysterious Mac and PC malware that jumps airgaps
perhaps i misunderstand it, though must 'resonance' be audibly acoustic, and would a SCIF actually defend against "vibrations" at all frequencies.
the question highlights how ill-suited the 'spy agencies' are for conducting asymmetric anything. Unless they had a Brain inside think of a mechanism and explain it to an Engineer to propose to a Facilities Security Manager who obtained confirmation from a Director, they would be vulnerable. For instance, TEMPEST security - every SCIF has it because inside it was well documented/implemented. SEISMIC security - no SCIF*** is isolated from seismic vibrations modulated with data. So, to ex-filtrate data, have those passing circus elephants stomp their feet in predetermined patterns. Or make one of those "Dune" style thumpers. The worms in this case being .... ? *** I'm suppose some very few SCIFs are vibration isolated for various reasons, but not as an exfil channel. -daniel
daniel <softservant@gmail.com> wrote:
For instance, TEMPEST security - every SCIF has it because inside it was well documented/implemented. SEISMIC security - no SCIF*** is isolated from seismic vibrations modulated with data. So, to ex-filtrate data, have those passing circus elephants stomp their feet in predetermined patterns. Or make one of those "Dune" style thumpers. The worms in this case being .... ?
dune worms as the moving invisible whorls of interdimensional flows of truth grounded and entangled within other remote hidden contexts while paired, various patterns bridged via resonant connectione from what i have heard, though may not understand correctly, is that this resonant vibration is not based on surrounding objects as a medium (though perhaps air or space) yet that, it is the object or material itself which has unique vibrational properties, such that any object has its specific, particular tuning (note: A=A logic here) and thus a floating balloon attached to a string could feasibly be made to resonate if the latex properties were vibrated, yet this would not need to occur through the ground or string to happen another way of considering the security issue of resonance, perhaps beyond audible sound or in concert with EM issues, is the sound-isolation chambers for testing electronics in... Anechoic chamber http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anechoic_chamber so imagine the chamber is essentially establishes an inside/ outside barrier, mainly acoustic, thus creates a wall between noise beyond its controlled perimeter and the acoustics inside. if you hang an ingot of silicon from a wire in the middle of the chamber, it would seemingly have resonant properties that if correctly tuned, could cause the silicon to begin vibrating so inside the chamber you could have a device that is tuned to the ingot of silicon and vibrate it, and who knows, maybe it would start to hum or something, or vibrate on the wire though this vibration would not necessarily begin on the ground or wall or move through the string, it would seem to (if understanding correctly) correspond directly to the ingot itself and its specific material qualities, its unique 'tuning' [note: music tuning corresponds directly with logic itself] so imagine that a SCIF is like a anechoic chamber to some extent, and that an acoustic barrier existed between what is on the inside and what is on the outside of the chamber. my presumption or gut instinct is that the acoustic barrier would not inherently be able to block all vibration that is matched or paired across the universe as a data structure (A=A) or block that boundary condition by ordinary means, because or perhaps due to its being *informational* or that it may not ride upon the material/energy in ways conceived maybe this instinct is entirely wrong, though i would wager it would be possible to vibrate the ingot from a distance, even if inside the anechoic chamber- if not via acoustics then perhaps through an opening or seam that allows that data to ride in on as if a carrier, though perhaps this is entirely wrong and not the correct model of space-time, and that it cannot be compartmentalized in this way at all, such that like paired photons, you could block the passage between them yet they are still connected, and this seems to be the same property with resonance, that they will be capable of resonating even when disconnected, to include all things 'like', if not mistaken (comparable to a substratum of reality itself in its informational dimensions, seemingly) in other words i would wager (no money, currency of truth) that it is more likely the ingot inside the chamber could be vibrated via a remote influence, even though in a bounded, protected, acoustically limited or 'safe' condition, and that how this occurs could be outside the normal physics of sound as energy, guessing, outside relativistic modeling, basing this on ideas of a friend researching the ideas [0] (though not in the existing context of crypto and security) so, the idea that a machine or some device could vibrate the ingot from the external side of the 'wall' or barrier, is to me highly likely or probable, by default of properties of materials in their molecular construction. security it seems is not yet engineering its defenses at that level while of course speculation, what it presumes is that even with an EM and acoustically shielded chamber or SCIF, that a device inside could still be resonating to an external matched or paired (tuned) influence and that the existing material/physical or energetic barriers may not be able to stop the informational dimension or quantum entanglement, else other correspondences even while visibly accounting for known threats within a given security model - thus 'out of bounds' or issues of parameters and boundaries, how they are accounted for or gaps exist between what exists (B) and what is believed to exist (A) as this leads to exploits (A=B), likewise: between what exists (T) and what is believed to exist (pT), as this leads to exploits (pT=T), &c. in other words, beyond electromagnetism, beyond ordinary audible acoustic frequencies, on another layer that could be parallel to these, hidden dimensionality that could have its own circuitry, networks, awareness in some way i think when microchips are x-rayed for inspection or electron microscopy is involved, it would not be surprising if part of this is looking for more than electronic hidden structures, and instead could involve resonating cavities that connect into circuitry, such that it could trigger unknown function via vibrational influence, function as a switch or whatever. that the physics exist to make this possible makes it highly probable it is employed in some way, especially if out of bounds for existing technology while at the same time it has magical subversive properties the point here not to wildly speculate, this is sober. to be expected considerations given existing physics and known issues and opaque technologies that are exploited against users, as if leveraging exactly these unknowns to crypto.weaponize consumer electronics and computing infrastructure for covert political takeover then again, i had some spicy food last night. [0] these ideas of resonance and tuning systems were introduced to me by my friend, composer Helen Hall, through her research into music and existing work on an independent film about Nikola Tesla and the aether... http://helenhall.net/ interview with helen hall (2007) http://www3.sympatico.ca/zero_1/interview/ http://www3.sympatico.ca/zero_1/interview/part2.htm http://www3.sympatico.ca/zero_1/interview/part3.htm
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