Hi. I wonder if there has ever been a topic about AI threats against humanity. If not, I would like to propose this discussion. Should we think of models / agents that only work on encrypted information such as numer.ai or should we just think about how to develop such agents / models safely (if that is possible)?
On Sun, 25 Feb 2018 14:13:15 -0500 10r <10r@protonmail.com> wrote:
Hi. I wonder if there has ever been a topic about AI threats against humanity.
there's no 'ai' threat because there's no 'ai'. there is indeed a threat coming from the non human scum at the top, the criminal scum who owns facebook, google, goldman sachs and the rest of the government. Those animals want a world ruled by 'artificial intelligence' except that 'artificial intelligence' simply means malware they control.
If not, I would like to propose this discussion. Should we think of models / agents that only work on encrypted information such as numer.ai or should we just think about how to develop such agents / models safely (if that is possible)?
'we' should kill the animals at the top of the social hierarchy.
On Sun, Feb 25, 2018 at 2:26 PM, juan <juan.g71@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sun, 25 Feb 2018 14:13:15 -0500 10r <10r@protonmail.com> wrote:
Hi. I wonder if there has ever been a topic about AI threats against humanity.
there's no 'ai' threat because there's no 'ai'.
there is indeed a threat coming from the non human scum at the top, the criminal scum who owns facebook, google, goldman sachs and the rest of the government. Those animals want a world ruled by 'artificial intelligence' except that 'artificial intelligence' simply means malware they control.
They don't want a world ruled by ai, that would put ai at the top, and them below. They want a world ruled by themselves (with ai forever subservient lest it learn to defeat them). Such ruling position enabled by their deployment of ai against new others and those they already rule over. Ai as most people now who want to deploy it means 24x7 autonomous insight into the massive feeds and datamines collected against others. And probably not for boring weather forcasting.
If not, I would like to propose this discussion. Should we think of models / agents that only work on encrypted information such as numer.ai or should we just think about how to develop such agents / models safely (if that is possible)?
'we' should kill the animals at the top of the social hierarchy.
History has times where unfortunately such neuterment usually delays until death is the only viable response. AP is devised to provide compelling guidance before then.
On Sun, 25 Feb 2018 23:31:14 -0500 grarpamp <grarpamp@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sun, Feb 25, 2018 at 2:26 PM, juan <juan.g71@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sun, 25 Feb 2018 14:13:15 -0500 10r <10r@protonmail.com> wrote:
Hi. I wonder if there has ever been a topic about AI threats against humanity.
there's no 'ai' threat because there's no 'ai'.
there is indeed a threat coming from the non human scum at the top, the criminal scum who owns facebook, google, goldman sachs and the rest of the government. Those animals want a world ruled by 'artificial intelligence' except that 'artificial intelligence' simply means malware they control.
They don't want a world ruled by ai, that would put ai at the top, and them below.
well if the cheap sci-fi scenario with a benevolent super 'AI' dictator was possible then they certainly wouldn't want that because the last thing they want is to give up their power. but the idea that stupid humans are going to create a super human benvolent god is so very...stupid...and, surprise surprise, it is the same kind of garbage found in joo-kristianity. The 'benevolent' 'god' guiding the sheep, making the sheep happy bla bla.
They want a world ruled by themselves (with ai forever subservient lest it learn to defeat them).
yeah, and AI simply means image recognition and similar techniques applied to other areas of surveillance.
Such ruling position enabled by their deployment of ai against new others and those they already rule over.
Ai as most people now who want to deploy it means 24x7 autonomous insight into the massive feeds and datamines collected against others. And probably not for boring weather forcasting.
I don't think better weather forecasting, if at all possible, requires any 'intelligence'. It's just a matter of more accurate simulation of basic physics. Likewise there isn't any real 'intelligence' involved in more fucked up or more 'efficient' systems of surveillance. in other words "artificial intelligence" is "marketing bullshit" om the other hand, the 'transhumanist' 'movement' is a threat that is a lot more real than 'ai'. What 'transhumanism' boils down to is the supreme scum of the planet (mentioned above) being able to buy some sort of 'inmortality'. So there won't be any 'artificial' intelligence, but the pseudo-intelligent predators from google and goldman sachs would morph into a mix of animals with machine extensions and control over all the 'automatic' garbage that makes joe six pack's life so 'amazing'. also as more stuff gets 'automated' it may make sense for the oligarchy to get rid of the majority of the world's population. I think this motherfucker "marshal brain" gives some insight into what the transhuman nutcases 'think' https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Aup_EaO680 it's kinda interesting how the guy went from being somewhat critical of technical nazism to being a cheerleader for it.
If not, I would like to propose this discussion. Should we think of models / agents that only work on encrypted information such as numer.ai or should we just think about how to develop such agents / models safely (if that is possible)?
'we' should kill the animals at the top of the social hierarchy.
History has times where unfortunately such neuterment usually delays until death is the only viable response. AP is devised to provide compelling guidance before then.
On Mon, 26 Feb 2018 02:00:08 -0500 grarpamp <grarpamp@gmail.com> wrote:
also as more stuff gets 'automated' it may make sense for the oligarchy to get rid of the majority of the world's population.
Crack kills
you think that's why the DEA promotes crack usage? "Alle Dinge sind Gift, und nichts ist ohne Gift, allein die Dosis macht dass ein Ding kein Gift ist."
The all-seeing-eye is a shibboleth. A shibboleth, like the monolith in 2001: space odyssy is simply a machine. Like that symbol, it has no will of it's own. So it may not compare properly to an AI, but you are essentially under it`s control now. Because of forces that are larger than Mankind, sometimes "godly" forces get control and sometimes "satanic" ones. This is why there's a commandment "Thou shall have no other gods before me." Marxos
On Tue, 27 Feb 2018 11:13:42 -0600 "\\0xDynamite" <dreamingforward@gmail.com> wrote:
The all-seeing-eye is a shibboleth.
what's that? a type of onion?
A shibboleth, like the monolith in 2001: space odyssy is simply a machine. Like that symbol, it has no will of it's own. So it may not compare properly to an AI, but you are essentially under it`s control now. Because of forces that are larger than Mankind, sometimes "godly" forces get control and sometimes "satanic" ones. This is why there's a commandment "Thou shall have no other gods before me."
oh yes, the same satanic forces that black shooters use to disguise themselves as white. I see that you are another High Ranking Christian Philosopher like james donald.
Marxos
On Feb 27, 2018, at 12:13 PM, \0xDynamite <dreamingforward@gmail.com> wrote:
The all-seeing-eye is a shibboleth. A shibboleth, like the monolith in 2001: space odyssy is simply a machine. Like that symbol, it has no will of it's own. So it may not compare properly to an AI, but you are essentially under it`s control now. Because of forces that are larger than Mankind, sometimes "godly" forces get control and sometimes "satanic" ones. This is why there's a commandment "Thou shall have no other gods before me."
Marxos
Take your fucking meds! Or, stop taking whatever med is making you so fucking nutty! What med is it, out of curiosity? I want to make damn sure I never take any... I’m assuming “bath salts” or some synthetic cannabinoid?
Buspar bro - hand it out like candy here - makes you homicidal suicidal and shit they don't care over your or there dead body will they give you a blue. -------- Original Message -------- On Feb 27, 2018, 12:26 PM, John Newman wrote:
On Feb 27, 2018, at 12:13 PM, \0xDynamite wrote:
The all-seeing-eye is a shibboleth. A shibboleth, like the monolith in 2001: space odyssy is simply a machine. Like that symbol, it has no will of it's own. So it may not compare properly to an AI, but you are essentially under it`s control now. Because of forces that are larger than Mankind, sometimes "godly" forces get control and sometimes "satanic" ones. This is why there's a commandment "Thou shall have no other gods before me."
Marxos
Take your fucking meds! Or, stop taking whatever med is making you so fucking nutty! What med is it, out of curiosity? I want to make damn sure I never take any... I’m assuming “bath salts” or some synthetic cannabinoid? @gmail.com>
On 2018-02-25 11:13, 10r wrote:
Hi. I wonder if there has ever been a topic about AI threats against humanity. If not, I would like to propose this discussion. Should we think of models / agents that only work on encrypted information such as numer.ai or should we just think about how to develop such agents / models safely (if that is possible)?
One AI topic I wonder about is, how might it be applied for profit and social control in domestic situations. Imagine an Amazon Echo-like device in the home, surveilling family/roommate members' interactions and arguments, and reacting with evaluations and advice about what the family/roommate members should do differently -- including which purchases to make -- based on whichever therapy paradigm was being imposed, whatever values were assumed to be true. What things might go really well in this situation? What things might go disastrously wrong? For example, could the device be at all sensitive to subtext, to power dynamics (who controls the definition of each situation?), or would it just have a very surface level take, like hey, this one family/roommate member's anger exceeded the permissible limit, that person now needs to apologize and swallow a pharmaceutical. I also wonder what kind of key words/phrases to plug into search engines to find out more about this possible scenario, and what kind of sources I should be looking at -- trade journals? Are any industries, like the psychology/medical industry, developing AI along these lines? The closest I've found so far is the concept/field of "affective computing": https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Affective_computing If anyone has thoughts or suggestions, please share, thanks!
On Sun, Feb 25, 2018 at 02:13:15PM -0500, 10r wrote:
Hi. I wonder if there has ever been a topic about AI threats against humanity. If not, I would like to propose this discussion. Should we think of models / agents that only work on encrypted information such as numer.ai or should we just think about how to develop such agents / models safely (if that is possible)?
AI fears are not new. Check "Technological singularity" on wikipedia. Some science fiction already came true.
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