Cpunk Propaganda To Reach The Sheeple [New functionality of Facebook]
On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 9:23 AM, Steve Kinney <admin@pilobilus.net> wrote:
There's a lot to dislike about The Facebook, but I do my best to assure that my participation causes more harm to the opposition team than to my own interests. They do get a constantly updated map of a big chunk of my real-world social network, and that kind of collection used to cost money and deplete finite resources dammit. But then, so did reaching a receptive audience with anarchist propaganda and commentary, so, I figure it for a break-even proposition.
Everyone bitches about having a hard time reaching the sheeple, from their tech lab in the basement that is. So similar above, to reach them you have to go to them, to their boring online "forums" and facebooks, the ones about football, beer, trucks, sewing, baby raising, cooking, etc... just start posting links to news stories you want them to see... all automated from the comfort of your basement.
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 11/12/2015 01:25 PM, grarpamp wrote:
On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 9:23 AM, Steve Kinney <admin@pilobilus.net> wrote:
There's a lot to dislike about The Facebook, but I do my best to assure that my participation causes more harm to the opposition team than to my own interests. They do get a constantly updated map of a big chunk of my real-world social network, and that kind of collection used to cost money and deplete finite resources dammit. But then, so did reaching a receptive audience with anarchist propaganda and commentary, so, I figure it for a break-even proposition.
Everyone bitches about having a hard time reaching the sheeple, from their tech lab in the basement that is. So similar above, to reach them you have to go to them, to their boring online "forums" and facebooks, the ones about football, beer, trucks, sewing, baby raising, cooking, etc... just start posting links to news stories you want them to see... all automated from the comfort of your basement.
Promoting news, propaganda, links to offsite documents and archives "of interest," etc. is easy, fun, and necessary. But one should not neglect the shoe leather aspects of the game. I have been involved with "political activism" off and on since the 1970s, and I never saw anything like the revival of Anarchy following Occupy. In my view Occupy was a tremendous success, because the camps became venues for intensive political education and practical training that changed the nature of radical politics and populist actions in the U.S. We still have many miles left to go, but at least something's finally on the move again. The anarchist veterans of Occupy seem to be the glue that holds a lot of today's ad hoc activist coalitions together, because Occupy taught its participants how to run consensus driven groups, and gave them practical experience in organizing and executing public events in a spectrum from "family friendly" to rude and confrontational. The Obama abomination stirred up a lot of middle class Liberals; their demographic is now well represented in public events that have little or nothing to do with partisan politics. The Bernie business is likely to bring a large wave of mad as hell, not gonna take it any more adults out of the woodwork. From every hundred or so who show up for a well organized public event sponsored by radicals, three or four are likely to stick and help run the next on e. "Anarchy finds work for idle hands." Everybody has their own jobs to do, determined by their interests, abilities and motivations. A keyboard and mouse may be enough for some folks, and those who do it well contribute a lot of value. But the ones who get up on their feet and down to the street will be the ones who actually change something. How can a local community voluntarily blow up the bridge over the swamp and raise their own flag, without a process for consensus and people who know how to beat some practical results out of the resulting clusterfuck? "Training tomorrow's trainers and challenging tomorrow's leaders" is widely recognized as Serious Business: Anyone who can find a functional radical crew, jump on board and stars contributing real work will be brought along pretty quickly. :o) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1 iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJWRQWAAAoJEDZ0Gg87KR0L2P4QAJBUwCw9IKMnxt+oEPfYFuVw TYFviSlt7VLd0zIw7yfPwsEfFPBGAE/limRtT/VmRoScTTH3yrHVhiIT7ffJDqyG fNLuCFaXhcXbuN2U1RGJjZoBRdRlXxbxt91KLM0AIa6EKCoto3VxmF10xVB6kbMS PDzNhE/gYhNH5mGtowkGNxE7zwxYZj+QYVFoPIuHYJHS5B8zuuJtFYGzfhUU8DOv PmU78lsGMSFAQqpvN0cO2IZ+8aDbqJvYh5M8Z5H2B5ABoAknf8ybN+YsOkqANMU7 pFxbx42JDg1M0TSeOfnNU2AgRV80sbVQXWbUOTm87RPMKlW5iyPonSYsWoXlMsYU mjdwOThAzrNHTR95nY8JPiU2Ys18zbGGcgjMyIYJy2Hvyq8lwY0/8iQDQa2io8Gr Op31nE2XubCVxnf9ChveUmWZfyUmR0T35FkjkoVqveXaP+HGRUPVtL6E6NfXRw7E NxaTr0wN9GV09Qp+pAacMGKpS8hTO3xUKS3eyvee372+W05X6oFVN/1Z9Y/xDLqS IHftLPeYgCZLQnYzHqAF4UmcKgb6U4+SIbg/b+KY3td/q1w0Tqm/fnq0dAE95rAD IffoiM/gFwDUWzpgdT5fcu+x3KgYf3gkK0c9zfcV85RzVmKZC+9GGH9tWgyUbMZi zu2aAAwidONJDscN0rE7 =uepi -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
On Thu, 12 Nov 2015 16:32:51 -0500 Steve Kinney <admin@pilobilus.net> wrote:
The Obama abomination stirred up a lot of middle class Liberals;
What could that possibly mean? 'Stirred'? Obama is the quintessential hero of the middle class american 'liberal' (aka left wing, 'politicall correct' fascist)
their demographic is now well represented in public events that have little or nothing to do with partisan politics. The Bernie business is likely to bring a large wave of mad as hell,
sanders? an american 'socialists' senator*? what is he supposed to stand for? You seem to be wearing your rose colored glasses...
not gonna take it any more adults out of the woodwork. From every hundred or so who show up for a well organized public event sponsored by radicals, three or four are likely to stick and help run the next on e.
"Anarchy finds work for idle hands." Everybody has their own jobs to do, determined by their interests, abilities and motivations. A keyboard and mouse may be enough for some folks, and those who do it well contribute a lot of value. But the ones who get up on their feet and down to the street will be the ones who actually change something. How can a local community voluntarily blow up the bridge over the swamp and raise their own flag, without a process for consensus and people who know how to beat some practical results out of the resulting clusterfuck?
"Training tomorrow's trainers and challenging tomorrow's leaders" is widely recognized as Serious Business: Anyone who can find a functional radical crew, jump on board and stars contributing real work will be brought along pretty quickly.
:o)
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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 11/12/2015 05:30 PM, juan wrote:
On Thu, 12 Nov 2015 16:32:51 -0500 Steve Kinney <admin@pilobilus.net> wrote:
The Obama abomination stirred up a lot of middle class Liberals;
What could that possibly mean? 'Stirred'? Obama is the quintessential hero of the middle class american 'liberal' (aka left wing, 'politicall correct' fascist)
"Liberals," so-called, are not cardboard cutouts; they are human beings. Two value reasoning, the passionate belief that the Left/Right axis describes real world politics, and judging others accordingly makes one a helpless cripple in the political sphere. That's why Amerikans have been so carefully and thoroughly taught to see and respond to the world around them through that frame of reference.
their demographic is now well represented in public events that have little or nothing to do with partisan politics. The Bernie business is likely to bring a large wave of mad as hell,
sanders? an american 'socialists' senator*? what is he supposed to stand for?
Political attitude surveys consistently show a popular mandate for what most would call Socialist economic policies and institutions in the U.S. Of course, in a Fascist State ruled by an astronomically wealthy oligarchy, no such thing is allowed. Hence the novelty and extraordinary popular appeal of Bernie Sanders. I expect his failure to deliver will radicalize a rather large number of people who would presently be described as Liberal. I know from observation that the Obama deception had that effect.
You seem to be wearing your rose colored glasses...
Just a cognitive bias toward well documented evidence and lessons of personal experience, and a lifetime of studying the art and science of propaganda. I got hooked on propaganda when I was 11 or 12 and never lost interest. Propaganda is the principal formative influence on social norms and political beliefs in the media-saturated "developed" nations. No one escapes the influence of propaganda, but those who do not study propaganda will be controlled by it. :o) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1 iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJWRVPuAAoJEDZ0Gg87KR0Li8YQALZxsaAW67BbIRIC8YeiU8b7 vrqdChBsvtEeI5tErLIrDzOpzfonzEC3F/rwUlNsE7O7GK9e6OiO7e+hYQZGr1e6 vlImJyUGIu9DqVPA0ZszLpHl1atZWGoxt4qgGMv/3ToeMEjhCzX8JxbwGym2Luah fmt3ybTeOuRz03Ce+NZ5hX7zdnbtfIK4UJCxVhPlNmWfm6iiGP1udi3KnDOEuGop Y6hIEpRehZSJXZIhZpqJKjQ6JAeJW582vmdTwXIJFXwaNABXzRUzI4ISw4/GEveO z+7Jm3B8p1V3QfHfNCsMH1mM89dnzkeXoXHGk07HAHM/noYu1bD9ihh71cAGnPkp au9W3SxMegaLo1IveIWco+B92PGs8gCQVLcUoCJr3l68B6YgAR55JfpFv8g//pXv Qd3X2oyxQNF/KYslpRzKSqqOj2fXZ/jriBoeKiIUDMq/MxTDw/72G0OwWW4RbgHH a5HUXXmZChmDBVhkJXypnN007/5rsWikQnYSIb2ywIeY/bIVA+Dje626PY7TkeG/ e2gdVfId89sxmgN3DdaC9aWQJ6gPq3ku1NEmFZPLhwCGN9bWvdee0OYbvakRpUft nctmbPrghnEMuGU6ry7+lnQXI5lFpQWNViDXiEmlXEXHChFhXdBgyCM74hfrhpvN rQvR8QPsbSS8DJeSv93a =K2d8 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
On Thu, 12 Nov 2015 22:07:29 -0500 Steve Kinney <admin@pilobilus.net> wrote:
"Liberals," so-called, are not cardboard cutouts; they are human beings. Two value reasoning, the passionate belief that the Left/Right axis describes real world politics, and judging others accordingly makes one a helpless cripple in the political sphere. That's why Amerikans have been so carefully and thoroughly taught to see and respond to the world around them through that frame of reference.
I know the left/right classification can be pretty meaningless and most of the time it is. On the other hand mainstream liberals and mainstream conservatives, which are supposed to be left and right are hopeless I'm afraid (I do realize that some of them can become more politically sophisticated given the 'right' incentives)
their demographic is now well represented in public events that have little or nothing to do with partisan politics. The Bernie business is likely to bring a large wave of mad as hell,
sanders? an american 'socialists' senator*? what is he supposed to stand for?
Political attitude surveys consistently show a popular mandate for what most would call Socialist economic policies and institutions in the U.S. Of course, in a Fascist State ruled by an astronomically wealthy oligarchy, no such thing is allowed. Hence the novelty and extraordinary popular appeal of Bernie Sanders. I expect his failure to deliver will radicalize a rather large number of people who would presently be described as Liberal. I know from observation that the Obama deception had that effect.
Ah, my mistake. I didn't get your point at first. I mostly remain skeptical though. I mean, the only thing you can be sure about politicians is that they won't keep their 'promises'. And yet the democratic charade doesn't seem to be losing strength.
You seem to be wearing your rose colored glasses...
Just a cognitive bias toward well documented evidence and lessons of personal experience, and a lifetime of studying the art and science of propaganda.
I got hooked on propaganda when I was 11 or 12 and never lost interest. Propaganda is the principal formative influence on social norms and political beliefs in the media-saturated "developed" nations. No one escapes the influence of propaganda, but those who do not study propaganda will be controlled by it.
Hehe =)
:o)
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