TIME RUNNING OUT: Privacy about to be criminalized in Australia - [MINISTRY] [PEACE] [CHILLING EFFECTS]
Our liberties are close to going up in smoke, folks! Legislation is on its 2nd of 3 readings. $50K+ fines and 5 to 10 years jail for "Anybody who refuses to help the authorities crack a computer system when ordered". These (proposed) sentences are merely for refusing to give your phone PIN or computer (or other) password. Australia already has absolute despotism "on the books" - i.e. as part of the "anti terror legislation", already! (Arbitrary detention, no lawyer, no telling anyone, family must not tell anyone, solitary detention, torture, all in the name of "anti terror".) ALL WE ARE WAITING FOR (besides a little more of the despotic legislation, for example see below), is an actual despotic dictator as head of state and a 9/11 or "Pearl Harbour" type event - for example a global financial "reset" (started at the whim of the Rothschilds family of course, just like 1939). Something worse than Orwell's 1984 is nearly here folks. Be alert, Zenaan Daily Mail Now the police want your passwords – and you could be fined $60,000 or put in prison for five years if you refuse Alison Bevege 2018-09-27 https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/now-the-police-want-your-passwords-... People could face up to five years' in jail if they do not give their laptop password or mobile phone PIN to the authorities under proposed changes to the law. Home Affairs Minister Peter Dutton introduced the new laws to the Parliament, saying they are needed to help police and spies catch criminals who are hiding behind encryption technology. But civil libertarians say the changes go too far. 'The bill is a draconian measure to grant law enforcement authorities unacceptable surveillance powers that invade Australians' civil rights,' said Liberal Democrats Senator David Leyonhjelm in an emailed statement to Daily Mail Australia. 'It appears that people who are not even suspected of committing a crime can face a fine of up to $50,000 and up to five years' imprisonment for declining to provide a password to their smartphone, computer or other electronic devices.' The penalty unit fine is actually more than $50,000 asthe value of a penalty unit has recently been increased to $210. img: a group of police officers riding on the back of a man: Civil libertarians are worried the new laws go too far towards making Australia a police state© Provided by Associated Newspapers Limited Civil libertarians are worried the new laws go too far towards making Australia a police state Anybody who refuses to help the authorities crack a computer system when ordered will face up to five years jail. If the crime being investigated is terrorism, the penalty for non-compliance is increased to 10 years' jail or $126,000. If Parliament passes the bill, tech companies will have to help authorities crack the encryption on users devices when told to help - or face up to $10 million in fines. If anybody at the company tells anybody that they have been told to do it, they will face up to five years' in jail. This will give authorities access to your protected online information in the event of an investigation. Under the legislation, foreign countries can also ask Australia's Attorney General for police to access data in your computer to help them investigate law-breaking overseas. img: a man holding a sign: A 46-year-old British-Australian software developer had his password-protected laptop and phone seized and inspected by Australian Border Force officers at Sydney Airport last month© Provided by Associated Newspapers Limited A 46-year-old British-Australian software developer had his password-protected laptop and phone seized and inspected by Australian Border Force officers at Sydney Airport last month For the bill to become law, it has to pass through three readings in the federal Parliament. It is now on its second reading. More than 14,000 submissions of concern about the Telecommunications and Other Legislation Amendment (Assistance and Access) Bill 2018 have been received. Submissions are open until October 19 so there is still time for you to have your say. img: a person standing in front of a fence: If anybody refuses to help the authorities crack into a computer system they face up to 5 years' jail or 10 years' if they are investigating a terrorism offence.© Provided by Associated Newspapers Limited If anybody refuses to help the authorities crack into a computer system they face up to 5 years' jail or 10 years' if they are investigating a terrorism offence. As the Australian Government grapples with new technology challenging law enforcement and national security, lawmakers have passed increasingly tough legislation affecting individual rights over the past five years. Some in the community have become concerned about the risk of the authorities having too much power. 'This is another extension of powers which goes well beyond what is reasonable and necessary in a democracy,' said NSW Council of Civil Liberties vice-president Lesley Lynch. img: a person holding an object in her hand: If you don't give your mobile PIN or password when directed, you could face five years' jail© Provided by Associated Newspapers Limited If you don't give your mobile PIN or password when directed, you could face five years' jail There is also reportedly a potential conflict between Australia's legislation and tough new data privacy laws passed in Europe. A 46-year-old British software developer had his password-protected laptop and phone seized by Australian Border Force (ABF) officers earlier this year as he travelled through Sydney Airport. The ABF would not say whether any files had been copied, but did inspect his devices. Nathan Hague told The Guardian he believed the ABF had cracked his laptop password and inspected his files. He said this potentially compromises his business, putting it in breach of Europe's tough new GDPR data privacy laws and he would have to give privacy breach notifications to his clients.
On Sun, Sep 30, 2018 at 03:32:09PM -0300, Juan wrote:
On Sun, 30 Sep 2018 22:27:35 +1000 Zenaan Harkness <zen@freedbms.net> wrote:
Our liberties are close to going up in smoke, folks!
So why do you say that while at the same time daily spamming daily stormer garbage?
You don't make much sense do you?
Race war is apparently wanted, and (((some folk))) seem to be pushing real hard for it. Raising awareness of this is possibly useful - if you want to avoid a civil war (or hell, if you want a civil war) then guidance becomes self evident: https://dailystormer.name/queen-ann-calls-out-nonsensical-jewsmedia-talking-... Queen Ann Calls Out Nonsensical Jewsmedia Talking Point That Only Brown People Understand Rape Victims Andrew Anglin Daily Stormer September 30, 2018 Throughout the process of the discussion by the Jewish media of a hearing with the mentally ill rape-hoaxer Christine Blasey Ford, the Jewish media kept talking about how bad it would look to have WHITE MEN questioning the woman. Although there is at least an argument to be made that men questioning an alleged “sexual assault” victim is somehow mean or something, the fact that they continually talked not about the optics of men questioning her, but WHITE MEN was never explained, and no explanation was even hinted at. In Ann Coulter’s latest op-ed, entitled “No More Mr. White Guy,” https://www.anncoulter.com/columns/2018-09-26.html she gives a list of quotes from media people bringing up the problem not only of the sex of the Senators who would be doing the questioning, but of the race. I will go ahead and underline those of these that are Jewish. “They know the optics of 11 white men questioning Dr. Ford … will be so harmful and so damaging to the GOP.” — Areva Martin, CNN legal analyst “They understand that you have all of these white men who would be questioning this woman … the optics of it would look terrible.” — Gloria Borger, CNN chief political analyst “Women across this nation should be outraged at what these white men senators are doing to this woman.” — Rep. John Garamendi, D-Calif. “There has been some discussion of the GOP senators who happened to all be … white men.” — Jim Sciutto, CNN correspondent “What troubles me is now there are … they’re all white men.” — Jennifer Granholm, former governor of Michigan, on CNN ”You’re seeing on display a metaphor for what this party is, which is basically ignorant white men.” — “Morning Joe” contributor Donny Deutsch “All these white men … stumbling all over themselves asking her, you know, aggressive and obnoxious questions.” — Asha Rangappa, CNN analyst “What are those — that collection of old white men going to do?” — Cynthia Alksne, MSNBC contributor “If she testifies in front of the Judiciary Committee, where 11 members are white men …” — Susan Del Percio, Republican political strategist, on MSNBC “Once again, it will be all white men on the Republican side of the Judiciary Committee.” — CNN anchor Poppy Harlow “The optics for Republicans are going to be really tricky … You’ve got all white men on the Republican side here …” — Julie Pace, Washington bureau chief for The Associated Press, on CNN “The Republicans, it happens to be 11 white men still on that side.” — CNN host John Berman “The Republicans, it is 11 white men, talk to me about how you think the tone inside this hearing on Monday will be perceived?” — Berman, a few minutes later “On the Republican side, all 11 are white men.” — Berman, again, same show, several minutes later “What hasn’t changed is the number of white men questioning, certainly, on the Republican side.” — Dana Bash, CNN chief political correspondent “The Republican side on the Senate Judiciary Committee is all white men …” — Irin Carmon, senior correspondent for New York Magazine, on MSNBC “Only this crowd of clueless old white guys …” — The Washington Post’s Jennifer Rubin on Twitter Ann took it a step further than she’s probably ever taken it, and mockingly suggested a list of non-white men who could have been brought in to question Ford.Some suggestions (note: not all of the following individuals are Republicans, but none has any partisan profile that I am aware of): 1. The Rev. Al Sharpton (Tawana Brawley affair demonstrates that he believes women). 2. Bill Cosby (extensive, up-close experience with victims of sexual assault, albeit from a rapist’s, rather than a “rapee’s” perspective). 3. Keith Ellison (likely good rapport with committee Democrats; has own transportation to Capitol Building). 4. Matias Reyes (would undoubtedly throw himself into committee’s work as pleasant change of pace from prison). 5. Sorry, I don’t remember the gentleman’s name, but that guy who kidnapped and raped the Columbia student, poured bleach on her and Krazy-Glued her lips shut. (This one is sort of a “wild card,” I admit; he could be absolutely great, or, judging by his history of poor impulse control, he could be too emotionally unstable to handle the committee’s important work; definitely a Person of Color, though; that I’m sure about.) 6. Alton Maddox, attorney for black youth hired by Jewish landlord to slash a model’s face because she refused to date him. Maddox pioneered novel “she’s a manipulative slut who had it coming” defense. (Close relationship with the Rev. Sharpton a definite plus.) 7. Lakireddy Bali Reddy, entrepreneurial Indian immigrant with strong experience with underage rape victims, having brought little girls to the U.S. purchased from their poverty-stricken parents in India as his private sex slaves. (His presence may bring Asha Rangappa on board.) That is brutal. Republicans eventually decided to bring in a female prosecutor to replace the men. But she was white. Ann was able to agree that the whole “men questioning women on sex assault thing” is at least something a person can process, but pointed out that the weird “white men” talking point seemed to suggest that if it was BROWN men it would somehow be better. “I get the logic of demanding women interlocutors. But what is the thinking behind snickering at “white men” judging an accusation of sexual assault? Chuck Grassley is a big rapist? You can be for rape or against it — I happen to be against it — but the idea that alleged sexual assault survivors need the loving care of black, Indian or Hispanic men to judge their stories flies in the face of crime statistics from around the globe. In the history of the world, there has never been a more pacific, less rapey creature than the white male of Western European descent. I realize it gives The New York Times’ editorial board (recent acquisition: Sarah Jeong) warm feelings every time someone throws in the word “white” as an intensifier, denoting extra hatefulness, but really, guys, it’s getting old. Can we please, for the love of God, drop the painfully trite, mind-numbing cliche about “white men,” as if somehow their whiteness makes evil even eviler?” And with that, I am sold on Ann being Tucker’s running mate in 2024.
On Mon, 1 Oct 2018 09:48:11 +1000 Zenaan Harkness <zen@freedbms.net> wrote:
On Sun, Sep 30, 2018 at 03:32:09PM -0300, Juan wrote:
On Sun, 30 Sep 2018 22:27:35 +1000 Zenaan Harkness <zen@freedbms.net> wrote:
Our liberties are close to going up in smoke, folks!
So why do you say that while at the same time daily spamming daily stormer garbage?
You don't make much sense do you?
Race war is apparently wanted, and (((some folk))) ....
You ignored my point and instead posted more daily spammer garbage. So here's a link for you : https://dailystormer.name/white-cop-fired-for-doing-his-job-and-shooting-upp... "Why wouldn’t he shoot a crazy spic who for all anyone could tell was on drugs? Who behaves like this except spics and nigs?" "A police officer has lost his job after being charged with voluntary manslaughter " So Zenaan feel free to explain how something like the 'dailystormer' whose purpose in life is to suck the dick of murderous cops has any connection to anything libertarian?
On Sun, Sep 30, 2018 at 11:27:31PM -0300, Juan wrote:
On Mon, 1 Oct 2018 09:48:11 +1000 Zenaan Harkness <zen@freedbms.net> wrote:
On Sun, Sep 30, 2018 at 03:32:09PM -0300, Juan wrote:
On Sun, 30 Sep 2018 22:27:35 +1000 Zenaan Harkness <zen@freedbms.net> wrote:
Our liberties are close to going up in smoke, folks!
So why do you say that while at the same time daily spamming daily stormer garbage?
You don't make much sense do you?
Race war is apparently wanted, and (((some folk))) ....
You ignored my point and instead posted more daily spammer garbage.
So here's a link for you :
https://dailystormer.name/white-cop-fired-for-doing-his-job-and-shooting-upp...
"Why wouldn’t he shoot a crazy spic who for all anyone could tell was on drugs? Who behaves like this except spics and nigs?"
"A police officer has lost his job after being charged with voluntary manslaughter "
So Zenaan feel free to explain how something like the 'dailystormer' whose purpose in life is to suck the dick of murderous cops has any connection to anything libertarian?
And in the next article, TDS names all American cops as "badge niggers". TDS is intent on catalyzing - be triggered as long as it entertains you to be triggered. Otherwise, take every grain of sand as unique and drink of your personal choice. I could equally say "Razer is a retarded agitprop Antifa-wanna-be, therefore the cypherpunks list is worthless shite - but at least some might think that's not such a useful position to take. I'm sure I don't make sense to some, perhaps much of the time. Raging doesn't make sense most of the time either - but everyone ought have the right to rage, scream at the sky if you will... Requoting myself:
Our liberties are close to going up in smoke, folks!
And yourself:
So why do you say that while at the same time daily spamming daily stormer garbage? You don't make much sense do you?
Frankly, the dept. of triggering aka the snowflake destroying fire tornado known as TDS serves a useful purpose AFAICT - however I fully admit that the "As Far As" part of "AFAICT" may be embarrassingly on the short end of the "far" vector... If nothing else, memes appear to be an emergent generational group dynamic on a global (or at least Western) scale - a generation of angry young men has discovered they can commincate effectively (actually causing triggering of "liberal" leftys like Razer) - and if nothing else this is putting on public display the truth of millions of individuals as they interact, trigger, get triggered, and react or respond. The alternative just a couple years ago was the ever increasing internalization of anger from powerlessness in the face of tyranny and madness, and ultimately I believe civil war. Now we may yet see civil war, but with a public "conversation" (of sorts) triggering its way forward week by week, there's the possibility of an alternative. What alternative I don't know. I do hope though...
On Sun, Sep 30, 2018 at 03:32:09PM -0300, Juan wrote:
On Sun, 30 Sep 2018 22:27:35 +1000 Zenaan Harkness <zen@freedbms.net> wrote:
Our liberties are close to going up in smoke, folks!
So why do you say that while at the same time daily spamming daily stormer garbage?
You don't make much sense do you?
Here's some more random "law" coming down the pipeling - past the intro (which does set the scene), a woman asked some police officers some pretty basic questions, and the next morning they come to arrest her loudly repeating "Do NOT resist us!": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SLT9JOE64WQ And on a similar line, some more Tommy Robinson: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lTZZ_lcV1kY The memes from TDS are free speech. Perhaps that's a right we don't really need any more? Or perhaps some serious shit is coming down this pipeline and perhaps TDS is a bell weather and warning sign - demonetized, slandered as garbage and as "neo-Nazi", wiped many times by theft of domain names - perhaps the real problem here is not the art project being slandered as the end of civilization, but perhaps the real problem here is that folks talking (however rudely or "garbagely") is grounds for censorship? Perhaps such canaries ought be front and center here at cp?
Perhaps such canaries ought be front and center here at cp?
Another canary - cashless societies/ nations and nationwide biometric ID systems - India' Supreme Court just signed up with open arms ("yes, it's “constitutional”" says the SC of India): https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-09-30/historic-judgment-indias-nationwid... And the everything-chip between back of your fingers or forehead, straight outta "Revelations" (i.e. intentions, prescient) is very close to "a threat of jail" away.
On Mon, 1 Oct 2018 19:59:33 +1000 Zenaan Harkness <zen@freedbms.net> wrote:
The memes from TDS are free speech.
Nah, they are vicious trumpist propaganda, KKK propaganda, statist propaganda, fucking christian propaganda and similar garbage. https://dailystormer.name/on-christianity/ "Like it or not, the Christian faith is a fundamental part of White civilization" some more samples Christian Slaves, Moslem Masters, Jewish Slave-Runners: The Jewish Ritual Murder of White Christian Children Muslims Capture 9-Year-Old Christian Girl and Brutally Rape Her for 19 Days Moslems Kill Christian Boy in Classroom, Teacher Ignores It America No Longer a Majority White Christian Nation A Christian Understanding of the Reality of Race “Europe Isn’t Christian”: Jews Celebrate the Moslem Conquest of London Dastardly Anti-Christ Pope Says Trump “Not a Christian” Cultural Cleansing of Christian Males https://dailystormer.name/no-more-christianity-debates-on-the-daily-stormer/ "Most of our readers are Christian, of various denominations, or areligious (perhaps “cultural Christians”). Some follow various other religious doctrines. Most all tend to agree on the core ideological basis of traditional Christianity, even if they do not follow any version of the religion, as the values of western civilization tend to line-up very directly with those of Christianity. We believe in defending our nations, we believe in defending our families, we believing in removing the degeneracy and debauchery from our societies. Many people in the world do not agree with these points, and thus it is up to us to come together, and fight together. If we achieved a Fascist future for White countries..."
On Mon, Oct 01, 2018 at 08:51:01PM -0300, Juan wrote:
On Mon, 1 Oct 2018 19:59:33 +1000 Zenaan Harkness <zen@freedbms.net> wrote:
The memes from TDS are free speech.
Nah, they are vicious trumpist propaganda, KKK propaganda, statist propaganda, fucking christian propaganda and similar garbage.
https://dailystormer.name/on-christianity/
"Like it or not, the Christian faith is a fundamental part of White civilization"
some more samples
Christian Slaves, Moslem Masters, Jewish Slave-Runners: The Jewish Ritual Murder of White Christian Children Muslims Capture 9-Year-Old Christian Girl and Brutally Rape Her for 19 Days Moslems Kill Christian Boy in Classroom, Teacher Ignores It America No Longer a Majority White Christian Nation A Christian Understanding of the Reality of Race “Europe Isn’t Christian”: Jews Celebrate the Moslem Conquest of London Dastardly Anti-Christ Pope Says Trump “Not a Christian” Cultural Cleansing of Christian Males
https://dailystormer.name/no-more-christianity-debates-on-the-daily-stormer/
"Most of our readers are Christian, of various denominations, or areligious (perhaps “cultural Christians”). Some follow various other religious doctrines. Most all tend to agree on the core ideological basis of traditional Christianity, even if they do not follow any version of the religion, as the values of western civilization tend to line-up very directly with those of Christianity.
We believe in defending our nations, we believe in defending our families, we believing in removing the degeneracy and debauchery from our societies. Many people in the world do not agree with these points, and thus it is up to us to come together, and fight together.
If we achieved a Fascist future for White countries..."
That's funny - a "Christianity" discussion thread was started about two years ago on the now stolen TDS.com domain, and it got shut down by moderators about a week later citing "these Christianity discussions are nothing but divisive". Turns out a dozen or so such threads had already got wiped for the same reason. Looks like times are changing at TDS. Anyway, notwithstanding, I'll hazard a guess that discussion of Christianity is STILL free speech. Let me repeat for the sake of triggering:
The memes from TDS are free speech.
Perhaps that's a right we don't really need any more?
Or perhaps some serious shit is coming down this pipeline and perhaps TDS is a bell weather and warning sign - demonetized, slandered as garbage and as "neo-Nazi", wiped many times by theft of domain names - perhaps the real problem here is not the art project being slandered as the end of civilization, but perhaps the real problem here is that folks talking (however rudely or "garbagely") is grounds for censorship?
Perhaps such canaries ought be front and center here at cp?
note the same "treatment" on InfoWars/ Alex Jones: https://dailystormer.name/alex-jones-crashes-lefty-censorship-meeting-calls-... This is epic censorship in "the West" the likes of which few could have imagined barely a decade ago! These are absolutely EPIC canaries! We desperately need a truly decentralised communications platform, like years ago already...
On Tue, 2 Oct 2018 10:24:19 +1000 Zenaan Harkness <zen@freedbms.net> wrote:
Anyway, notwithstanding, I'll hazard a guess that discussion of Christianity is STILL free speech.
nope - it is shit speech, like everything else the daily stormer promotes. You are confusing the action (free speech) with the content, but they are different things.
We desperately need a truly decentralised communications platform, like years ago already...
yep, but that's not something that kristians, trumpists, KKKists, putinists, and any other right wing asshole have any interest in. You might want to consider the fact that trying to fight left wing fascists by siding with right wing fascists is very very retarded.
On Mon, Oct 01, 2018 at 09:52:39PM -0300, Juan wrote:
On Tue, 2 Oct 2018 10:24:19 +1000 Zenaan Harkness <zen@freedbms.net> wrote:
We desperately need a truly decentralised communications platform, like years ago already...
yep, but that's not something that kristians, trumpists, KKKists, putinists, and any other right wing asshole have any interest in.
Really now? :)
You might want to consider the fact that trying to fight left wing fascists by siding with right wing fascists is very very retarded.
You might remember an email from a few months ago replying to Razer with something like "It'll be as sad tomorrow if/when censorship is applied to you, as it is when it's applied today to TDS". “There was no one left to stand for me.” Perhaps we ought vigorously stand for the right of both/ all sides to speak, freely, and denounce the censorship which is so easily justified when "the wrong people" are the ones speaking.
On Tue, 2 Oct 2018 15:12:58 +1000 Zenaan Harkness <zen@freedbms.net> wrote:
On Mon, Oct 01, 2018 at 09:52:39PM -0300, Juan wrote:
On Tue, 2 Oct 2018 10:24:19 +1000 Zenaan Harkness <zen@freedbms.net> wrote:
We desperately need a truly decentralised communications platform, like years ago already...
yep, but that's not something that kristians, trumpists, KKKists, putinists, and any other right wing asshole have any interest in.
Really now? :)
yes. Is that line supposed to be sarcastic because you think I'm wrong, or because I am underscoring something painfully obvious? If you realize that your pals putin, trump the KKK and all the rest are sworn enemies of 'free speech' and any other freedom why do you keep promoting them.
On Tue, Oct 02, 2018 at 02:58:58AM -0300, Juan wrote:
On Tue, 2 Oct 2018 15:12:58 +1000 Zenaan Harkness <zen@freedbms.net> wrote:
On Mon, Oct 01, 2018 at 09:52:39PM -0300, Juan wrote:
On Tue, 2 Oct 2018 10:24:19 +1000 Zenaan Harkness <zen@freedbms.net> wrote:
We desperately need a truly decentralised communications platform, like years ago already...
yep, but that's not something that kristians, trumpists, KKKists, putinists, and any other right wing asshole have any interest in.
Really now? :)
yes. Is that line supposed to be sarcastic because you think I'm wrong, or because I am underscoring something painfully obvious?
If you realize that your pals putin, trump the KKK and all the rest are sworn enemies of 'free speech' and any other freedom why do you keep promoting them.
Humans have an interest in their rights, including but not limited to the right to freedom of speech. One's beliefs are in other words, irrelevant. Whether they know they have an interest in their right to freedom of speech is another matter - TDS (and now Alex Jones) happen to have become "rather aware". Whether they support or oppose freedom of speech is something else again. TDS is strongly in support of freedom of speech, by everything I've read.
On Tue, 2 Oct 2018 17:05:26 +1000 Zenaan Harkness <zen@freedbms.net> wrote:
Whether they support or oppose freedom of speech is something else again.
TDS is strongly in support of freedom of speech, by everything I've read.
OK - you had your fun trolling me. You earned your position in the "fucking asshole" category. Congrats.
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