Re: though shalt NOT gloat!
An unbelievable gauntlet? A total liar? Someone who selfishly intends to line his $10 billion pockets into $100+ billion pockets? http://russia-insider.com/en/politics/incredible-last-minute-trump-ad-expose... We rail. We hope. Good luck fellow humans.
On Sat, 12 Nov 2016 08:19:51 +1100 Zenaan Harkness <zen@freedbms.net> wrote:
An unbelievable gauntlet? A total liar? Someone who selfishly intends to line his $10 billion pockets into $100+ billion pockets? http://russia-insider.com/en/politics/incredible-last-minute-trump-ad-expose...
We rail. We hope.
So, how long before you admit that trump is nothing but a puppet of the establishment? Well, not exactly a puppet since HE is the establishment.
On 11/11/2016 04:56 PM, juan wrote:
On Sat, 12 Nov 2016 08:19:51 +1100 Zenaan Harkness <zen@freedbms.net> wrote:
An unbelievable gauntlet? A total liar? Someone who selfishly intends to line his $10 billion pockets into $100+ billion pockets? http://russia-insider.com/en/politics/incredible-last-minute-trump-ad-expose...
We rail. We hope.
So, how long before you admit that trump is nothing but a puppet of the establishment? Well, not exactly a puppet since HE is the establishment.
Well - one might argue he is owned by the Russian establishment - he is up to his eyballs in Russian debt. --- Marina
On Fri, Nov 11, 2016 at 05:45:31PM -0500, Marina Brown wrote:
On 11/11/2016 04:56 PM, juan wrote:
On Sat, 12 Nov 2016 08:19:51 +1100 Zenaan Harkness <zen@freedbms.net> wrote:
An unbelievable gauntlet? A total liar? Someone who selfishly intends to line his $10 billion pockets into $100+ billion pockets? http://russia-insider.com/en/politics/incredible-last-minute-trump-ad-expose...
We rail. We hope.
So, how long before you admit that trump is nothing but a puppet of the establishment? Well, not exactly a puppet since HE is the establishment.
If he pushes too hard, say reclaim constitutional right for the people to print their own greenbacks, undoubtedly a JFK result would ensue. If he reneges on all election postures, he would give rise to a right-er, harder, extremer (now justified) nationalistic / racist / etc rising. Whites oppressed and suppressed, fed eternal guilt by supreme left-ers, disclaimed of all culture, all "racial strength" all dignity in self, no celebration of uniqueness ever allowed, must eventually revolt - the pendulum ever swings. Having catalyzed an awakening of fellow grievers, that awareness of todays endemic cultural suppression as existing beyond "just me and my mates", let's hope Trump successfully cuts a middle ground. Otherwise yes, the swing to rebellious extremism as 'the only alternative' may well be now unstoppable and to the benefit of no one.
Well - one might argue he is owned by the Russian establishment - he is up to his eyballs in Russian debt.
He was a businessman, knowing the swings of artificially santioned national economic suppression of the US upon Rus. If it be true he is up to such eyeballs, let's be thankful a detente is now perhaps certain. Distasteful as a descent into true reactive fascism would be if Trump wimps out on any positive change, it's still better than the Western dragon whipping its tail into a new global war to end all wars. I but hope and pray for a narrow middle way, a soft landing for all.
On Mon, 14 Nov 2016 23:11:40 +1100 Zenaan Harkness <zen@freedbms.net> wrote:
On Fri, Nov 11, 2016 at 05:45:31PM -0500, Marina Brown wrote:
On 11/11/2016 04:56 PM, juan wrote:
On Sat, 12 Nov 2016 08:19:51 +1100 Zenaan Harkness <zen@freedbms.net> wrote:
An unbelievable gauntlet? A total liar? Someone who selfishly intends to line his $10 billion pockets into $100+ billion pockets? http://russia-insider.com/en/politics/incredible-last-minute-trump-ad-expose...
We rail. We hope.
So, how long before you admit that trump is nothing but a puppet of the establishment? Well, not exactly a puppet since HE is the establishment.
If he pushes too hard, say reclaim constitutional right for the people to print their own greenbacks, undoubtedly a JFK result would ensue.
I would be surprised if 'he' stops the printing presses to any meaningful degree.
If he reneges on all election postures, he would give rise to a right-er, harder, extremer (now justified) nationalistic / racist / etc rising.
I'm having a hard time imagining justified nationalism. Especially american nationalism. Idem for 'justified' racism.
Whites oppressed and suppressed, fed eternal guilt by supreme left-ers, disclaimed of all culture, all "racial strength" all dignity in self, no celebration of uniqueness ever allowed, must eventually revolt - the pendulum ever swings.
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Having catalyzed an awakening of fellow grievers,
So trump is 'worth' 3700 millions according to wikipedia. He was born in new york and has a degree from pennsylvania university. I think that makes him a fully qualified member of new england's elite, establishment and oligarchy.
that awareness of todays endemic cultural suppression as existing beyond "just me and my mates", let's hope Trump successfully cuts a middle ground.
Otherwise yes, the swing to rebellious extremism as 'the only alternative' may well be now unstoppable and to the benefit of no one.
Well - one might argue he is owned by the Russian establishment - he is up to his eyballs in Russian debt.
He was a businessman, knowing the swings of artificially santioned national economic suppression of the US upon Rus. If it be true he is up to such eyeballs, let's be thankful a detente is now perhaps certain.
Looks like german debt at least according to this https://theintercept.com/2016/11/10/trump-presidency-could-be-worth-14-billi...
Distasteful as a descent into true reactive fascism would be if Trump wimps out on any positive change, it's still better than the Western dragon whipping its tail into a new global war to end all wars.
I but hope and pray for a narrow middle way, a soft landing for all.
On Nov 14, 2016 4:53 PM, "juan" <juan.g71@gmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, 14 Nov 2016 23:11:40 +1100 Zenaan Harkness <zen@freedbms.net> wrote:
If he reneges on all election postures, he would give rise to a
right-er, harder, extremer (now justified) nationalistic / racist / etc rising.
I'm having a hard time imagining justified nationalism. Especially american nationalism. Idem for 'justified' racism.
No extreme nationalism and no racism are or can be justified. No ethical, honest and decent person can support any kind of discrimination against another human being. It's easy to understand why all Zzz messages go directly to my trash. Always hypocrite garbage, trying to justify nazist/dictatorship acts that can't be justified.
On Mon, Nov 14, 2016 at 04:53:08PM -0300, Juan wrote:
On Mon, 14 Nov 2016 23:11:40 +1100 Zenaan Harkness <zen@freedbms.net> wrote:
If he reneges on all election postures, he would give rise to a right-er, harder, extremer (now justified) nationalistic / racist / etc rising.
I'm having a hard time imagining justified nationalism. Especially american nationalism. Idem for 'justified' racism.
Justified should have been "justified" (in scare quotes) - sorry for the oversight. As in, "justified in the minds of those (extremists) who would feel that their candidate was illegally removed from the presidency, that their election system gives zero opportunity for their views to prevail electorally, and therefore "justify" a civil revolution". HTH.
On Fri, Nov 11, 2016 at 4:56 PM, juan <juan.g71@gmail.com> wrote:
http://russia-insider.com/en/politics/incredible-last-minute-trump-ad-expose... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vST61W4bGm8 We rail. We hope.
So, how long before you admit that trump is nothing but a puppet of the establishment? Well, not exactly a puppet since HE is the establishment.
There is careful distinction between, puppet of an establishment, and being an establishment. A puppet is vague shifting hard to focus on and kill. An establishment more on its, and in your, face, is clearer, easier to evaluate. Regardless, and regardless who narrates it, from whatever side, with whatever success, the words of the above video are relavent and compelling to any peoples looking for change. Old interviews... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCabT_O0YSM And new... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9CZF_8ui9Y Meh, time sees and obscures all things.
Stellar tradition (spit) of cypherpunks is to attack everyone, before, during and after, gloating at transient wins over the "fools" -- no matter left, right, indy, secret affiliation. Trump and trumpsters are now free-fire targets to avid peddlers of disruption of anything official. Political campaign mouthings just kiddie-diaper oozings. Ooze or two about this guttersniping hideout: Passing mention of cypher by die-hard nostalgics, but to hell with that geeky 1990s superficiality, take it to the heavily moderated crypto fora where those crypto-geeks who work within well-paid power interests to keep tight censorship over dissent, disputes, insults, shillings, virulent propaganda (unless it favors fancy if always flawed crypto as an essential tool of success and dual-hatted place on advisory boards and sugarish mega-authoritative sagacious quotes in MSM rollodexery). Stink of crypto-currency has been a constant odor, Assange one of hundreds aiming to allure and loot digital frontiers of hapless internet pioneers and sucker baiting Waybacks, Wikipedias, WWWebs 1, 2 with ever darker promises of privacy anonymity, untraceability, pseudonyms, nics, trolls, lusers, pawns, snitches, fame-inflamed burglars of big data and emails and as ever financial repositories protected by beady-eyed cryptoids and sleazy sysadmins patrolling packets, acks, diversions, ruses, traps, threads, privileged accesses, lockpicks, permissive action hyperlinks. At 04:19 PM 11/11/2016, you wrote:
An unbelievable gauntlet? A total liar? Someone who selfishly intends to line his $10 billion pockets into $100+ billion pockets? http://russia-insider.com/en/politics/incredible-last-minute-trump-ad-expose...
We rail. We hope.
Good luck fellow humans.
: inanity - pure, pure inanity trumping all sense of decorum Trigger warning, pro-trump, inane youtube ahead. You have been warned! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zT0Rjc6jKCg ~20MiB, ~3mins Must. Not. Enjoy.
On Wed, Nov 16, 2016 at 04:33:16PM +1100, Zenaan Harkness wrote:
: inanity - pure, pure inanity trumping all sense of decorum
Trigger warning, pro-trump, inane youtube ahead. You have been warned! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zT0Rjc6jKCg ~20MiB, ~3mins
Must. Not. Enjoy.
"Never compromise" also means, when you're on a winning point, "never shift ground". That blonde girl that everyone in the studio laughed at in such an undignified way, is Ann Coulter. In the following interview she speaks amongst other things to our freedom of speech and the lame stream media's current obsession with "fake news" as their excuse for censorship: Exclusive — Ann Coulter Post-Election Review: Media Bias, ‘Fake News,’ and Burning Down the Conservative Establishment http://www.breitbart.com/radio/2016/11/25/exclusive-ann-coulter-post-electio... " Coulter noted that as far back as her college days, left-wingers have been itching to impose speech controls, even as they fulminated against the Religious Right for its alleged book-burning impulses. "
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